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The HfP chat thread – Friday 27th August

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Comments (536)

  • KBuffett says:

    Spend £1 get 100 MR points (once only) on my American Express Charge Card (main card holder only)

    Spend £1 get 50 Avios (once only) on my BAPP

    I’m actually insulted by these offers considering the high fees on both cards. I hope they are not a sign of things to come.

    Offers expire in a month!!!

    • George K says:

      I almost prefer this to the arbitrary targets I got in the past – spend £5300, get 2000MR…

      • KBuffett says:

        If the offers are daily, or very frequent, then fair enough. But, for example, 100 MR a month would be a joke.

    • Andrew says:

      Agreed – one of the most bizarre offers I’ve seen from Amex. It’s almost Nectar style – ‘buy some apples, get 40 points’. Speaking of which you can get 25 nectar points by watching the Avanti Trains advert (under partner offers in the app).

    • Youllnever says:

      Doesn’t look like the offer is fee-paying card targeted, so you shouldn’t be insulted: got the 100 MR one on the ARCC and 50 Avios for the free BA.

      I do agree that this is probably one of the weirdest offer I’ve ever seen.

    • Amy C says:

      Yep £1 for £100 on my BAPP. Very weird. And I spent £4K on that this month :/

      • WaynedP says:


        Not going to look a 100 Avios gift horse in the mouth for an inevitable £1 spend though.

    • BuildBackBetter says:

      Got it on my ARCC that I use rarely, so makes sense. But OH got it on gold that’s used frequently. Strange.

    • BJ says:

      I wonder of it’s just an error or something more. Could they be doing this to identify accounts that save rubbish offers and how many of them do so? Hope you didn’t save it.

      • John says:

        What’s wrong with saving rubbish offers?

        • BJ says:

          If a huge number of people save offers as bad as this then amex may perceive that they can scale back on the generosity of their incentives in general.

          • Andrew says:

            I don’t think so. And remember that the majority of offers are driven by the retailers not Amex anyway – so if Betty wants to offer 12% or 90% back that’s not down to Amex.

          • VerdantBacon says:

            Amex barely do any offers except for shop small, doesn’t seem worth their time to load poor offers and have someone do data analysis and reporting on this just to weaken shop small, considering they have already weakened it without needing to test people’s offer saving habits

          • TGLoyalty says:

            How’s it bad? It would take £100 spend to get 100 MR

            It’s just a little incentive to buy your next coffee/sandwich/whatever on the card. Don’t knock a gift horse …

    • Nick says:

      Just used my spend £1 get 50 MR on my platinum. Meh, I quite like it but clearly not the most exciting of offers. I guess more of a ‘Here’s some points’ very nectar like. I’ll take it.

      • Andrew says:

        Seems there are different versions then – my Platinum was spend £1, get 100MR and my BAPP is spend £1, get 50 Avios.

        • Illuminatus says:

          It’s really weird – offers like that are hardly worth the effort to save them to cards, bring 0 additional loyalty – more likely, client frustration – and still take hours of Amex time to send the email, run it past compliance etc

    • Harrier25 says:

      What is there to be insulted by? It’s virtually 100 free points which normally you’d need to spend £100 to receive!

      • Reney says:

        better than not having the offer at all. i got nothing on either cards, will check family’s

    • Justin says:

      I got the following last night/early morning:
      Platinum – Nothing
      Gold – “Spend £1 get 100MR Once”
      Business Gold – “Spend £1 get 50MR Once”
      BAPP – Nothing

    • Andrew says:

      The rules don’t say £1 or more. It just says £1. So does it trigger only on a £1 purchase?

      I’m going past Poundland tonight, will get myself a box of Cornettos.

      • Colin MacKinnon says:

        Wow! You can get a BOX for £1? Need to stop moving my avios to Sainsbury nectar!

    • Tracy says:

      I’m insulted I have 3 cards in my name and 2 supps and I don’t have any offers.
      OH has 2 cards in his name and 3 supps and he got one offer on the green charge card only…

    • MW says:

      Data point – got a spend £1, get 50 on my BAPP card (£195?pa). How generous of them!

    • stevenhp1987 says:

      Just got an email from Amex on this.

      Appears to be part of a new monthly “wins” promotion.

      This is being highlighted as August Wins, with a future September & October version.

      • Liz says:

        I have the email but not the offer !

        • vol says:

          Looks like cardholders have snapped the offer up – first 10k only or something

          • Lee Brown says:

            Doh! Agreed. Got the offer by email for my BAPP from Amex 10.04 this morning (first 10,000 members to save) but it was gone by time I looked about 20 minutes ago.
            (At least I did get the 10k avios for 5k spend by end Nov)

    • The Savage Squirrel says:

      Only on HfP would someone be given points for (basically) free and complain and be insulted :D.

  • Boi says:

    From next month you all don’t have an excuse not to visit me 🤣

    Canada is green!!

  • Cal says:

    Anyone recently traveled to Sweden from the U.K.? Sweden just extended their travel ban for non EU citizens and I have family who would like to come to Sweden but not sure on the rules if you go via another EU country? Or even direct between the U.K. and Sweden if you have an EU passport?

    • Sandgrounder says:

      Sweden applies the rules for the country you arrived from, regardless of length of stay or nationality. There are no restrictions on travel from another Nordic country. Norway recently started accepting the English, Welsh and NI digital Covid passes for entry. It SHOULD therefore be possible to travel to Sweden from the UK via Norway with a UK passport and digital vaccination certificate, with no need for additional tests or pre registration.

      • Cal says:

        Does this include if you just transit in Oslo or Copenhagen? Or is it better to actually leave the airport?

        • Pete M says:

          Denmark is fully open to the UK double-jabbed too. I’d book the trip on two tickets to be on the safe side (and hence you’d probably want to leave a decent buffer for the connection).

        • Sandgrounder says:

          It does specifically say transit is OK, but you will need to pass immigration and enter Schengen/Nordic Passport Union area before you fly on to Sweden. This is normally required anyway when transiting from non-Schengen to Schengen, so a single ticket should be fine.

          • Cal says:

            Yeah saw that bit about transit but then at check in they might ask about Sweden entry requirements? Thanks for your advice

    • Pete says:

      Entering direct from the UK for non Swedish citizens requires a negative covid (antigen is fine) test within 48 hours of arrival.

      Proof of close family ties to Swedish residents or citizens is required and you are not able to get pre-approval, the decision is made by the Swedish police at the border after an interview. There is a long list of confusing requirements and FAQs at

      The check-in staff going through the rules asked to see a visa at that’s what their guidance said. They stated that Sweden and the US has the most confusing set of requirements and exemptions.

      As others have stated entry via another Nordic country is possible if you meet their requirements for entry then Sweden will allow entry, you should pass the border. Finland for example does not require covid test for vaccinated UK travelers.

  • Tom says:

    When flying Virgin UC does anyone know if there are any time restrictions on when you can check in? If you turned up at the airport several hours becore the flight would you still be able to check in bags and head to the lounge?

    • Cats are best says:

      At LHR T3?

      Always used to be that on day of the flight, you can check in early as you and lounge to your heart’s content, I’ve seen people reporting 6-7 hour stays.

      Think I was in there four hours once, bagged a comfy area, had a shower, snacks, did some calls and emails, full meal, then relaxed until it was time to stagger to the plane.

    • Carol says:

      You can check in as early as you like and use the lounge for as long as you like.

    • Jonathan says:

      Even though it’s meant to be one the best airport lounges you’ll ever visit (varies on who is asked, and what other lounges they’ve visited on their travels) wouldn’t several hours get a bit boring after a while? I mean fair enough if you’ve flown in from elsewhere, and you then have some time to kill until your next flight, but leaving home numerous hours before your flight for the sole purpose of sitting in an airport lounge for all that excess time? Surely there’s got to be better things you can do with yourself

      • Carol says:

        It is a far more personalised experience than a BA lounge for example and a great place to while away a few hours. They serve afternoon tea and have a great cocktail bar. The staff have always been very friendly and are happy to help wherever possible. I find this with their cabin crew too.

        • Jonathan says:

          Yes, I agree with you on the cabin crew part, I haven’t been to one of their lounges yet, so I can’t take any sides there, but that among other reasons are is why I generally prefer Virgin over BA

      • Andrew says:

        I used to arrive mid morning at T3 for a late afternoon One World flight all the time and have meals throughout the day with endless champagne at the various lounges. To be honest I can’t really think of anything I’d rather do with a Saturday.

      • Tom says:

        Agree entirely but it’s a case of getting a free drop off to the airport early or spending about £70 on a cab. Can take my work laptop with me and crack on. Would getting there 6 hours before your flight specifically just to maximize time in the lounge be a bit sad… yes, probably!

        • Carol says:

          I would do the same! I would choose Virgin over BA every time, and this lounge is fabulous. Hopefully you will have time for afternoon tea, cocktails and dinner too 😀

        • Mel TS says:

          100% go early… we have been known to get there at least 4 or 5 hours early. You can’t beat the people watching, the food is decent (or at least was a couple of years ago when last visited), you’ll get some work done…. And save £70! Add some cocktails….What’s not to like!

  • Frankie says:

    BA 289 – Heathrow to Phoenix is showing on as flying next Friday (3rd September). This flight hasn’t flown since March 2020. As it’s only a week away does this mean it will definitely fly next Friday? ( I am booked on it two weeks later (17th) on a BA avios Amex 2 for 1 and was really thinking and hoping it would be cancelled so I don’t have to take a voucher)

    • Paul says:

      It was announced in the travel press beginning of the week that PHX will resume at the end of this month, although BA did cancel my 16th September outbound flight a week ago… return still seems ’live’ for 28th… perhaps there won’t be a full daily service to start with?

    • Lyn says:

      Phoenix shows as starting on August 31, running only 3 days a week for most of September – Tue, Fri and Sun.

      It shows as operating those days on BA’s flight status and IAG is selling cargo on the 31st. So you should know in a few days.

  • Mjshort says:

    How can you stack Morrisons BAPP and Virgin offers?

  • Tazzy says:

    I know I’m not the only one hoping that BA cancel the second daily flight to LAX. Due to travel 11th sept but wonder do people think there is much chance that BA will cancel or do I bite the bullet and go for St Lucia in September instead?

    • Andrew says:

      Well if you have something you want to move the flight to then do that. If you want the money back in you account and not book anything else then wait until the day of before cancelling for a voucher in the hope they cancel it so you can take a refund.

    • Louise K says:

      I just cancelled my 17/9 LAX flight. I think they are operating.

      Was booked as a holiday and had to be cancelled today.

  • aviosnewbie says:

    Is there somewhere on H$BC to check the rewards points statement or activity for the premier elite card? I am very sure I had 300k+ points yesterday, when I redeemed 45k as a test transaction to check the bonus avios. And this morning, it shows only 246938 in the account. So some points have gone missing. Any idea what it could be?

    • Luke says:

      Maybe you redeemed 45k Avios which is 90k hsbc points ?

      • aviosnewbie says:

        No, I didn’t actually. Checked the BAEC statement, and 56250 avios have dropped in (45k + 25% bonus). Seems very strange!

        • Mike says:

          As Luke says above, it appears you’ve redeemed 45k avios, which is equal to 90k HSBC Premier Reward points.

        • aviosnewbie says:

          I was just being thick! You’re completely right, Luke 🙂

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