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The HfP chat thread – Tuesday 28th September

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Comments (516)

  • Liz says:

    Apologies if this has been asked before – I haven’t been following all the comments closely for several weeks. For the £5000 spend offer for 10000 Avios – does spend from shops using IZettle and SumUp count towards spend – I know Paypal doesn’t count but not sure if these 2 are classed as ‘payment facilitators’ and so don’t count towards spend. Thanks

    • Blenz101 says:

      Don’t think it has been asked but I would bet that it does. It will come through as a ‘retail’ transaction.

      They are sniffy about PP as you can of course pay friends and family etc.

    • Peter K says:

      I got the 10000 Avios for £5k spend and I did a decent amount of the spend on Paypal and some via billhop.

    • Travel Strong says:

      Paypal counts. izettle/paypal/etc only present issue with retailer specific offers – not overall spend offer.

    • Axel says:

      The payment aggregators are fine to count towards spend.

      Amex confirmed with me today that shop small is going ahead this December. SumUp is signed up but they weren’t so sure about Square or IZettle

  • Chris says:

    Anyone know if Curve Rewards are the same as Curve cash.
    I activated a 10% offer for Pizza Express and I’ve received only 1.5% in Curve cash, but this happened within hours.
    Are they the same thing or different?

    • C says:

      I had understood Curve Rewards were to be paid as Curve Cash. However, neither of the two offers I triggered have paid anything….

    • John says:

      They should be, there are 3 types, one where it credits immediately (typically 1.5%) and the offers which credit after a few weeks, which are divided into ones where you can just spend on the card and ones where you have to go through curve’s affiliate link.

      They should all credit to curve cash though, you might get 11.5% back eventually? The 1.5% ones are the offer for specific retailers you get with metal or the early adopter rewards, but I didn’t think pizza express was on there

    • Andrew H says:

      I asked them this. It takes time to appear. There’s a red star in the corner of the Rewards page. Click that and it’ll show what is pending.

  • Blenz101 says:

    I think Anna had a point earlier when she suggested ‘audit’.

    But I’m a complete cynic.

  • Mikeact says:

    Correct….text print pops up, if you can’t be bothered to read the t’s and c’s then little sympathy, particularly wasting the voucher., which has been mentioned on here since time immemorial.

  • C says:

    Can a FTV be claimed with BA if the outbound flight has already been flown? If so what would happen if a 241 voucher was used on the booking? I’m guessing the FTV would just be for the return portion of avios for 1 person and the cash?

    • JDB says:

      I don’t think you get any Avios back if you cancel a rewards booking after the outbound flight. Not sure about the cash element.

  • Rob says:

    As it’s one card each I think you’d be OK.

    Downside is that you are risking a LOT of Platinum points if Amex did block you for some reason. Decisions decisions …

  • Ollie says:

    I have 2 Companion Vouchers due to expire before I’d like to fly. Would like 4 x CW returns to the Caribbean for Oct 2022 half term, so quite sought after seats.

    If I use the ‘Book a flight to Liverpool/cancel for a FTV’ trick, do I still call BA at midnight T-355 to try and bag them, even though I’ll be using FTVs?

    • Anna says:

      Good luck finding a BA flight to Liverpool, but yes, you need to call to use a FTV anyway, which is going to make it very, very difficult to use them for sought-after seats at the moment. I’m hoping that “anywhere in the eastern US” will be enough to be able to use one of mine for Xmas 2022!

  • His Holyness says:

    Curve app seems to be down for me, I am unable to verify transactions. Ah, lovely Curve… definitely ready to be mainstream!

    • TGLoyalty says:

      I get all of the verifications via text now ?

      But yep apps down

    • Harrier25 says:

      Its back up for me now, but after reading the comments from you over the past few days, maybe it’s something completely different for you than just app downtime @ His Holyness 😂

      • John says:

        Been reading the curve forums – they seem to be in denial about creation and ernie

        • Harrier25 says:

          They are all just having a complete Curve love in on there and have no idea what a basket case its in danger of becoming!

        • Rui N. says:

          They are quite interesting indeed. Some people here should go and read them, plenty of good arguments on how Curve might be conducting unlawfully, from FCA regs to GDPR and general consumer law. Also posted there are the complete T&Cs which define cash recycling solely as withdrawing from ATM and then depositing that money to pay the card back. So, good luck to Curve proving that their email about Ernie that backing on their T&Cs.

          • John says:

            Yeah, but I can’t be bothered to submit documents or fight with them so I’m just not going to do it. Even though I was never a heavy MSer

          • JDB says:

            @Rui N – you need to read the whole paragraph rather than just the first few sentences re Curve’s definition of cash recycling and the Fair Use Policy is incorporated within the T&Cs.

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