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Qantas confirms non-stop London to Sydney flights from 2025

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Qantas has announced its ‘Project Sunrise’ non-stop flights from Sydney and Melbourne to Europe with a confirmed order for 12 Airbus A350s.

(This article was previously written speculatively but overnight Qantas confirmed the news – fortunately, virtually everything we wrote has been confirmed. The article below has now been updated.)

Qantas has been discussing ‘Project Sunrise’ since 2017, challenging Airbus and Boeing to propose a solution that would allow such flights. If the pandemic had not intervened then the aircraft would be under construction by now, and in service next year.

Lots of new jets on order for Qantas

Qantas announced the purchase of 12 Airbus A350-1000ULR aircraft today. ULR stands for ‘ultra long range’. These will be built with an additional fuel tank which will allow them to fly fully loaded from Sydney to London.

In addition, Qantas has also placed a large order for single aisle aircraft to renew its domestic and short haul fleet. It has ordered 20 A321XLRs and 20 A220 aircraft to gradually replace the 737 and 717s currently in its fleet, with options to purchase up to 94 more over the coming decade. The first of these will arrive in late 2023.

It is interesting that Qantas has chosen the A321XLR version, which offers the largest range of any narrow body aircraft at up to 4,700nm and certainly more than enough for domestic routes. That would be enough for it to fly from Sydney to Hong Kong, Brisbane to Tokyo or Sydney to Bangkok.

It may be that Qantas has opted for a single aircraft that can do both short and longer routes, in order to increase compatibility across its network. The excellent A220 aircraft can then pick up some of the smaller and thinner domestic routes.

Qantas has been trialling direct flights to Australia since 2018 when it launched its non-stop London to Perth service. This uses a standard Boeing 787-9 aircraft and takes 17 hours to cover the 14,498 km distance. London to Sydney or Melbourne is beyond the scope of existing aircraft.

First flights will operate to New York and London, followed by Paris and Frankfurt. Rio de Janeiro and Cape Town could also welcome the jets according to initial plans.

Qantas A350-1000 ULR

Qantas’ new A350-1000ULR

The A350-1000ULR aircraft will have the ability to fly for 21 hours. This is enough for the routes under consideration, even after building in flexibility to deal with bad weather diversions and other potential issues en route.

The aircraft will carry 238 passengers in a four class configuration, including First Class, with internal changes to give passengers more chance to walk around during the flight. Over 40% of capacity (and a much higher percentage of floor space) will be dedicated to premium passengers.

Entirely new seating will be developed, and Qantas has already pulled back the curtain on a very impressive First class suite:

Qantas A350 First

and

Qantas A350 First 2

As you can see, each First class seat takes up the wall width – there is no tessellation of other passengers like you would find in most business class cabins. Instead, Qantas has created a suite with a closing door that features both a permanent bed and seat, similar to Singapore’s impressive A380 First class. Here is a full video of the new Qantas first class cabin:

Storage appears to be plentiful and the suite features a 32″ in-flight entertainment screen.

The A350-1000ULR solution is believed to be attractive because, whilst the aircraft can handle ultra-long flights, they are equally suitable for shorter intercontinental trips. They will also allow Qantas to bypass international hubs such as Singapore and fly direct – and will eventually replace the hub-to-hub A380 operations.

None of this will come tomorrow, of course. These ultra long-haul flights are due to start in 2025, although whether they start on time is another matter. Fortunately, the A350-1000ULR is just a modified A350 so it is unlikely to be delayed as long as Boeing’s new 777X.

How will British Airways respond?

One question worth considering is whether British Airways will drop flights to Australia in 2025. After many years of losses, and after Virgin Atlantic abandoned the route, British Airways had finally started to make money with its flights to Sydney pre-pandemic.

The strategy had been to use smaller, more fuel efficient aircraft, and effectively abandon the backpacker market to Emirates and Qatar. If the business market moves en masse to the direct Qantas flights, irrespective of cost, British Airways may have no choice but to walk away. Running a base in Singapore to handle the Sydney flights adds extra complexity to BA’s operations.

Comments (81)

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  • Andrew J says:

    They certainly won’t have showers – the fuel is enough to carry, without bringing tanks full of water for showers too.

  • qrfan says:

    Showers in economy!!! Your realize that Emirates don’t even let business class use their showers? It’s first class only. Absolutely no chance of frills in economy.

  • Nathan says:

    With every economy ticket they should include a general anaesthetic at the boarding gate that subsidies after 20 hours.

    • qrfan says:

      But what do you think the ba one stop option is like in the back of the plane? This is clearly not for people who would otherwise relax in Singapore for a few days. The alternative to this is an hour or two of hanging around a boarding gate.

      • lumma says:

        Getting off a plane in the middle East/east Asia and having a walk around on the ground, a plate of food at a proper table is far preferable that bring cooped up in an economy seat for almost an entire day.

        The direct Perth flights were usually around double the price of a simple one stop too when they first started the route. Saving £600 can even buy a couple of pints in Dubai airport…

        • marcw says:

          At the end of the day, it’s up to the passenger.
          In the case of flights from Europe to Thailand, I prefer non-stop services. My dad, in contrast, loves on-stop options via DXB, AUH or DOH.

    • Thywillbedone says:

      Someone I know used to take a rohypnol just after boarding long haul Y …until once the aircraft went technical and he had to be carried off in his stupor by several people

      • Dubious says:

        That’s a bit silly. Better to wait until the aircraft has got airborne, that way only an issue if there is an emergency landing.

    • numpty says:

      and some compression socks to prevent blood clots

  • John T says:

    Showers in economy lol. Where are they going to store water for 200 people.

  • Alan says:

    Interesting and clearly of interest for those on a business trip where time is of the essence but personally, travelling for leisure, I much prefer SQ with a couple of days stopover in Singapore on the way out!

  • AJA says:

    I wonder how the economics of this works? Also what about crew working hours?

    Good luck to Qantas and Airbus though. I welcome these innovations as it is moving things forward.

    I think I would like to experience it. But I’m not sure I’d do it in economy

    • ChrisC says:

      The basically have two sets of crew who change over roughly half way.

      • AJA says:

        I’m not sure I’d like to be the crew that take over half way – that’s like starting work immediately after a 10 hour flight.

  • Joshua Critchley says:

    Qantas taking a bet all that desperately discounted Chinese capacity that trashed Europe-oz fares won’t be back.
    Probably right. Who wants to fly Air Covid anyway?

    • John T says:

      The ME3 are also cheap and are much better regarded

      • Marcw says:

        Not that cheap. Chinese airlines were offering <£500 tickets to OZ.

    • Marcw says:

      Qantas isn’t going to target that market. The target passengers that are happy to pay a premium to fly non stop.

      • qrfan says:

        What was the typical premium for direct vs me3 London to Perth before covid? I tend to think this is revenue protection rather than taking a premium. Offering a product nobody else has to maintain market share.

        • lumma says:

          Economy in the London to Perth flight was around £1,200 when I checked, compared to around £600 on Emirates, Qatar or Etihad

          • qrfan says:

            Thanks. That confirms that I really don’t understand the purchasing decisions of anyone flying economy on these routes!

  • Kafka says:

    Showers and a bar in economy. What planet you living on dude.

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