News: BA CityFlyer suspends flights to Menorca & Milan, Hyatt adds 30 German hotels

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• ElSemm says:

  8 Oct8 October 04:54

  My Cityflyer flights SOU-NCE next summer just been cnx. Looks like they’ve pulled that route too.

  • Rob says:

    8 Oct8 October 08:46

    They have, plus some others.

    • Mikeact says:

      8 Oct8 October 11:09

      Hopefully, most BA SOU flights will be retained. They have been excellent for a week away somewhere.

      • ElSemm says:

        9 Oct9 October 03:14

        Defo. I live in Winchester so would have been great to get the 7 min train instead of driving to LHR. Clearly not enough locals here have friends with a house in Nice 😊

  • Richie says:

    8 Oct8 October 09:25

    Positioning flights from DUB and EDI to SOU for May 23 are still bookable on BA.com

• tw33ty says:

  8 Oct8 October 06:29

  The two lindner hotels in Hamburg are quite nice, the Lindiner Park-Hotel Hagenbeck being the better of the two, only issue is it’s location a bit in no man’s land next to the zoo.

• TimM says:

  8 Oct8 October 06:34

  I always regarded Malpensa as the tourist airport and Linate as the business airport so quite surprised at Cityflyer using Malpensa.

  If Cityflyer have a spare Embraer they could return it to Manchester to operate the popular winter sun routes from there. Just a suggestion.

  • NorthernLass says:

    8 Oct8 October 07:23

    If only! I suspect though, that BA has pretty much given up on MAN, with the recent gutting of the domestic schedule and abandonment of the lounge.
    The summer routes which operated for a couple of years are sadly missed.

    • yorkieflyer says:

      8 Oct8 October 07:29

      Yes but EasyJet out of Liverpool has been a revelation

    • TimM says:

      8 Oct8 October 08:19

      The abandonment of the lounge was particularly gutting. It was, especially when double its size, a stunning lounge and a hark back to when BA used to operate long-haul from Manchester. I am hoping that when the likes of Ryanair et al move to the expanded T2 and T1 has been demolished/converted into a walkway, there will be excess lounge capacity at T3 and BA may move back in.

      • QwertyKnowsBest says:

        8 Oct8 October 09:45

        +1

      • NorthernLass says:

        8 Oct8 October 10:23

        The lounge is currently being used as extra seating, BA could absolutely move back in there. It doesn’t seem to be widely known, though, it was lovely and quiet on Tuesday and I had an entire row of seats to myself overlooking the runway. Hope it stays that way as the rest of T3 was a zoo …

    • Nick says:

      8 Oct8 October 10:25

      Manchester suffers from the endemic problem that there aren’t enough people willing to pay above average fares to cover the higher cost base BA has over the LCCs. I’ll get abuse for saying that but it’s no less true for it.

      If – and it’s a big if – BAEF succeeds in creating a reasonable cost base then the logical next step for them is regional expansion. So it’s not outside the realms of possibility that more BA tailfins will return, but it definitely won’t be mainline.

      • John T says:

        8 Oct8 October 11:49

        For short haul yes but doesn’t Virgin have good success from MAN with their high prices?

• SamG says:

  8 Oct8 October 07:48

  If the airports weren’t in such a pickle I suspect BA would do rather well adding extra Manchester/Glasgow flights at the moment to take advantage of the Avanti meltdown!

  IIRC there was something to do with slots at Linate and BA lost some – they were leasing some I think – so presumably preferred to utilise what it has left at LHR with bigger aircraft

• MilesOnPoint says:

  8 Oct8 October 07:58

  Are there any more noises about fleet renewal at BA Cityflyer?

  In 2019 there was talk of them needing to refresh their fleet with the Embraer 190 aircraft ageing and less fuel efficient, with either the Embraer E2 or the Airbus A220 (Bombardier C-Series) as the potential replacement.

  Personally I’d love to see the A220, it’s a great passenger experience, would increase capacity, is already certified for LCY (Swiss fly them there) and has a much longer range, opening up new route possibilities.

  That being said, the Embraer E2 seems more likely as it would require minimal training for crew and Pilots who currently work on the 190 aircraft…

  • Richie says:

    8 Oct8 October 09:35

    A few/several A220s with fuel tanks big enough for flights to the Canary Islands and Turkish resorts would be a game changer for weekend flying in the Autumn/ Winter/ Spring when the Mykonos/ Santorini cash cow is not possible.

    • Joe says:

      8 Oct8 October 09:42

      Winter sun weekends from LCY to the Canaries would be great please BA if you’re listening!

      • Nick says:

        8 Oct8 October 10:19

        LCY would need to make significant modifications the airfield for A220s to be viable for BACF. They’re clearly the best answer but if only two stands are currently capable of handling the (significantly larger than everything else there) aircraft then it would be a problem for BACF. The current Embraers have enough life left in them to keep plodding along for a while.

        • Willy says:

          8 Oct8 October 11:37

          Stands 21-28 can all take A220 and E195E2 aircraft. They just need to move the kit stored on them at the mo and have to use buses until the terminal work is complete.

        • Richie says:

          8 Oct8 October 12:08

          Airports find capital investment remarkably quickly where there are revenues to be had.

        • Richie says:

          8 Oct8 October 12:14

          There have been no Swiss flights from LCY between 6am and 8.30 am and between 10am and 12noon today, Those A220 gates have availability.

  • Rhys says:

    8 Oct8 October 12:18

    A220 would be my preference too. We can only hope…

    That said, the current E190 fleet is ‘only’ 11 years old on average.

    • MilesOnPoint says:

      8 Oct8 October 16:51

      +1 Rhys. Do let us know if you hear anything on the CityFlyer fleet front 👍🏻

• Gordon says:

  8 Oct8 October 08:25

  Great news re Hyatt, We plan to see friends in Germany and visit the Black Forest.

  • RussellH says:

    8 Oct8 October 10:21

    none of them are anywhere near the Black Forest.
    The upmarket hotel there all seem to be privately owned.

    • Gordon says:

      8 Oct8 October 12:17

      @RussellH. I am aware of the hotel locations, I didn’t say I was staying near the Black Forest, I said I was visiting the Black Forest?!

• L Allen says:

  8 Oct8 October 09:46

  Lindner, Linder, Liner, Lidner! I can see why they signed up with Hyatt if they can’t get the name of their brand consistent.

  • RussellH says:

    8 Oct8 October 10:19

    There is also “Frankfjurt” on the list. Even my browser recognises this as wrong.

    • Rob says:

      8 Oct8 October 10:27

      Rhys is half-German, I think you’ll find that’s the local spelling 🙂

      • RussellH says:

        8 Oct8 October 11:33

        I assumed that Rhys (being intelligent) had done a cut-and-paste, and the mistake was Lindner’s 🙂
        Of course, it could be the way they pronounce the name in the other Frankfurt (an der Oder). Saxon pronunciation can be completely unintelligible.

        • Rhys says:

          8 Oct8 October 12:19

          I had to type the entire list out manually from an image which is why it’s so bad!

        • Bagoly says:

          8 Oct8 October 13:43

          Typical German office standard of computer literacy!
          (At CNC machines they are leaders)

        • Bagoly says:

          8 Oct8 October 14:37

          Lovely to see a Brit aware of the city where my nearest Real and REWE supermarkets are (they give Payback points which convert to M&Ms, conversion bonuses of 20-25% come round fairly regularly!) 🙂
          But it’s at least 130km from any part of Saxony.

        • Lady London says:

          8 Oct8 October 20:06

          ditto Hessisch. Both equally unintelligible

      • Gordon says:

        8 Oct8 October 12:53

        I see the editing police are out in force(Excuse the pun) this morning, I think the majority of readers understand the article and would not mistakenly book a hotel in Another country instead of Germany 🙄

        • TimM says:

          8 Oct8 October 13:04

          You might well think that. When I was living in Milan, I was offered a temporary job in Monaco. I jumped at the opportunity. That is when I learned that there were two Monacos in Italian – the Monaco we know and the other one, Munich in English. Getting the wrong country is more easily done that imagined 🙂

    • RussellH says:

      8 Oct8 October 10:33

      They have also listed the Düsseldorf Airport Hotel twice…

      The only Lindner I have stayed at is no longer part of the group…

  • tw33ty says:

    8 Oct8 October 11:46

    I actually can’t see why they’ve signed up, the hotels I use in Germany from the group are always fully booked, so they can’t be after traffic.
    But hey, not going to complain, another points earning opportunity for hotels I already use.

• Toby says:

  8 Oct8 October 11:30

  Menorca no!

  Just have a slew of cancellation emails – please tell me they will at least carry on flying there – just from another London airport.

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