REGISTER NOW: British Airways launches new ‘double Avios’ promo

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• Kowalski says:

  5 Nov5 November 05:51

  Oh aren’t BA so generous…

  • Ls says:

    5 Nov5 November 05:56

    Almost as if they’re about to announce a devaluation….

    • CarpalTravel says:

      5 Nov5 November 07:56

      The baiting has been on for ages now, only a matter of time until the switch. As much as it will hurt, I am braced for it.

    • Jack Hodgson says:

      5 Nov5 November 10:37

      no they are not this offer has been on many times and never happened . people need to stop being such cynics

    • Will says:

      5 Nov5 November 16:19

      I think they’ve nailed the devaluation model, just put it on the surcharges. That way you still market to people the same redemptions for avios but you don’t mention the cash.

      There’s still value in the scheme, even at reduced cash outs to nectar you still have a cash value on the balance but it’s much less interesting now than it was a few years ago.

      Still great for either one way tickets or Europe RFS and last minute bookings.

• KevinS says:

  5 Nov5 November 05:59

  “ However, if you do need to make a booking soon, it may be enough to swing you back towards British Airways if you had been leaning elsewhere.”

  Good one.

• Thywillbedone says:

  5 Nov5 November 06:15

  Peak trolling by BA here …

• Andrew J says:

  5 Nov5 November 06:42

  Important to note this is the terms: “Double Avios is calculated from the base Avios, this is before any Tier or cabin bonuses are applied.”

  So it’s not really double Avios unless you’re flying in Traveller with no status.

  • David says:

    5 Nov5 November 15:53

    Yep, BA from BA 😉

• Tony says:

  5 Nov5 November 07:04

  Typical BA…always a catch…current bookings don’t count. These work-experience kids at BA will see the death of a once proud company!

• Terry Butler says:

  5 Nov5 November 07:09

  Some marketing gimmicks are simply not worth bothering with – this is clearly in that category.

  Not only do existing bookings not count, there is a very, very short window in which to make any future bookings under the terms of the offer but – crucially – the so-called doubling is only on the basis Avios in the first place.

  The most paltry offer that could possibly be afforded.

  What a crap airline this is!

  • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

    5 Nov5 November 07:12

    But it’s less about the bonus offer and more about the dog whistle that it represents – as Ls notes above.

    • Jack says:

      5 Nov5 November 10:45

      it represents nothing this is not a new offer but one they have had in the past, I have done it before and nothing has changed that much. People are reading too much into it IMO

• Zain says:

  5 Nov5 November 07:26

  From the T&C’s: “Double Avios is calculated from the base Avios, this is before any Tier or cabin bonuses are applied.”

  How does this benefit any HfP reader? Even a lowly Bronze wouldn’t get anything from this.

  I think the title should be renamed so it’s clear that the bonus applies to Blue only.

  • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

    5 Nov5 November 07:28

    Everyone gets double base points

  • Andrew J says:

    5 Nov5 November 07:47

    I think you misunderstand – correct that it’s not double Avios unless you are blue in the Traveller cabin, but everyone will get some kind of bonus, even a Gold in First will see an uplift but of course far from double what they would get without the offer.

• Graeme says:

  5 Nov5 November 07:38

  Would be interesting to see how poor forward bookings are ex-UK especially going west. That’s like the third offer in as many weeks. And also see how many regulars they lose with the upcoming devaluation.

  As a long time Gold for the time ever I’ve no trips booked for next year and while prices remain high for travel and accommodation it’ll stay that way!

  • JDB says:

    5 Nov5 November 08:20

    IAG was very positive about forward bookings for the rest of this year and into 2023 and this is built into their profits guidance. Business traffic is also recovering faster than anticipated.

    Re ‘going west’, that works in two directions – US airlines have been reporting exceptionally strong traffic between the US and Europe spurred by the strong $ vs most European currencies. BA not only gets some of this traffic, but it also keeps fares high.

    • Thegasman says:

      5 Nov5 November 10:08

      When was IAG’s last profit guidance? Mood music has changed a lot in last couple of weeks with general public. Whether we are or aren’t in a recession at the moment is a bit academic but I’m certainly picking up a big change in the middle class’s view on how tough the next couple of years will be.

      I think the travel industry are in for a shock if they believe the post Covid travel at any cost mindset will continue. Same for business travel, the bean counters will be quick to cull it when profits are nose diving.

      • Rob says:

        5 Nov5 November 10:21

        Results came out last week. Business throwing off more cash than they know what to do with. Shai Weiss said, in as many words, the same to me about VS when I saw him on Wednesday.

        I think we’re looking at full business cabins and empty economy cabins next year, but when a return to JFK is £10k (what my ticket cost this week, to attend a Hyatt media event) you can happily lose 30 down the back.

        • His Holyness says:

          5 Nov5 November 11:38

          My firm (big tech) is cutting the travel budget for our key offices in London & Lisbon and LA. It’s mad. As ticket prices have risen they’ve decided to spend less.

        • His Holyness says:

          5 Nov5 November 11:45

          Lufthansa Group operated 71% of 2019 flights last week, load factor 82 (up slightly). -Capacity is way down.

      • JDB says:

        5 Nov5 November 11:43

        IAG profit guidance was issued on 28 October and beyond that formal guidance, the tone was very positive.

        • His Holyness says:

          5 Nov5 November 11:50

          London is very specific. I used to do IT projects for a major hotel chain. In London they’re seeing better RevPAR than pre-Covid, mainly driven by overseas tourism. Outside of London it’s a disaster, many heading towards bankruptcy if owners can’t refinance the debt.

      • JDB says:

        5 Nov5 November 11:54

        @Thegasman if the ‘middle class’ as you put it has only just realised times are going to get tough(er) they’re none too sharp. It’s something I and others were talking about here a year ago. Exceptionally low inflation and interest rates were not sustainable so when you add massive Covid borrowing and the additional QE and a war that started 9 months ago, none of this should be a surprise to anyone. I speak to dozens of companies and they have been planning for this downturn for ages including a tightening credit environment that will apply equally to individuals.

        • KevinS says:

          5 Nov5 November 11:59

          The war started 8 years ago really

        • His Holyness says:

          5 Nov5 November 12:01

          The war in the Donbass had been going on for 7 years and killed 45,000 by the time of the full-scale Russian invasion on February 24th.

        • Thywillbedone says:

          5 Nov5 November 12:22

          Give yourself a good pat on the back! A one-eyed buffoon could see the storm clouds gathering, but it doesn’t mean they would make any lifestyle changes necessarily …those could start to happen now though. I, for one, have (among other trips) a J redemption to the US for next summer. But may very well bin it out in favour of something closer/better value if the FX rate doesn’t improve. I’m sure I’m not alone.

        • Alan says:

          5 Nov5 November 14:40

          Don’t worry, lots of Brexiters still convinced there’s a massive dividend to come. Sadly for lots of small companies they’re seeing the reality instead, thus FT film runs through things quite well – https://youtu.be/wO2lWmgEK1Y

  • Jack says:

    5 Nov5 November 10:40

    nobody knows as yet what the points offering will be and it better include taxes people have to pay on their fares , businesses can make offers all the time. it is not a devaluation really just changing how you earn them even though that in itself is stupid and not needed but BA penny pinch all the time

    • His Holyness says:

      5 Nov5 November 17:34

      Massive costs of lockdown, response to Ukraine war and not Brexit the real reason, otherwise it would all be rosy across the channel and it’s just not. Some EU Member States have inflation double the UK. There’s enormous problems to recruit cheap staff in France, Germany and as far east as Poland. Cost of de-carbonisation has also caused immense difficulties.

      It all goes back to boomers, boomers must be satisfied, they sit on all the equity, they hold all the cards. We locked down for boomers.

      • KevinS says:

        5 Nov5 November 19:30

        The UK until recently was the only G7 country not to have GDP recover to pre Covid levels

        Shambles really

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