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Stuffed #4: Holders of Barclays Upgrade Vouchers who don’t have a large Avios pot

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Over the last week we’ve been looking at the losers from the changes to long haul Avios pricing launched 12 days ago.

It’s a long list – all Avios members outside the UK, US and EU, anyone with an ‘old style’ American Express 2-4-1 voucher, anyone with a Gold Upgrade Voucher (we will come to this later in the week) and anyone who took advantage of the various low tax loopholes.

The only winners we’ve identified so far are those who use a ‘new style’ Amex 2-4-1 voucher and who can afford to use the maximum number of Avios when redeeming it. These people save around 15% on the cost of a redemption. Holders of ‘old style’ vouchers win if they can afford the new Avios levels but are stuffed otherwise as they cannot revert back to the old pricing.

Today I want to look at the situation regarding Barclays Upgrade Vouchers. Let’s see if they are winners or losers.

There are three ways of earning a Barclays Upgrade Voucher:

This article looks at the core benefits of the Barclaycard Avios Plus credit card.

To learn more about the cards, read our Barclaycard Avios Mastercard credit card review here and our Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard credit card review here.

Each voucher allows a solo traveller to upgrade both legs of an Avios reward flight. Alternatively, a couple can upgrade one leg.

However, there is one thing you need to know.

The Barclays Upgrade Voucher is NOT an upgrade voucher.

In practice, it lets you book an Avios ticket and pay the Avios requirement of the next lowest class.

If you book a Club World business class Avios seat to New York, for example, you pay the World Traveller Plus Avios requirement but the Club World taxes and charges.

On short haul, Reward Flight Saver makes Barclays Upgrade Vouchers fairly useless

Before we look at the long haul changes, it is worth remembering that Barclays Upgrade Vouchers offer little value on short haul flights.

This is ENTIRELY due to how ba.com prices them up.

On short haul, the ‘most Avios, least cash’ option is never the best value choice. This is unfortunate, because you are forced to take it when using the upgrade voucher.

Here’s an example. To Amsterdam, a Club Europe redemption using a Barclays Upgrade Voucher costs 18,500 Avios (the usual cost of Economy) + £1. However, if you don’t use a voucher, you can choose the best value Club Europe option of 17,000 Avios + £50.

Using our ‘1p per Avios’ valuation, using the voucher means you are ‘paying’ £186 (18,500 Avios x 1p + £1). Not using the voucher ‘costs’ you £220 (17,000 Avios + £50). You’re only getting £34 of value from your voucher in this case.

The situation is different on long haul, because the Reward Flight Saver option is not the worse value option.

How is the Barclays Upgrade Voucher impacted by the long haul Avios changes?

The saving grace here is that the Barclays Upgrade Voucher was never valid for First Class travel. This means that it avoids the worst of the problems with the new Avios pricing scheme.

(You’ll see what I mean when you read the next article on Gold Upgrade Vouchers!)

The situation is very similar to what we discussed last week for holders of ‘old style’ American Express 2-4-1 companion vouchers.

It has always been the case that, when you redeem a Barclays Upgrade Voucher, you do NOT get to choose from a mix of Avios and cash levels.

You are presented with the ‘headline’ price, take it or leave it.

This is an issue now, because the ‘base’ price requires 45%-60% more Avios than it did.

Here is an example:

Avios devaluation

New York

The ‘headline’ price for a return off-peak Club World flight to New York is now 160,000 Avios plus exactly £350 if you live in the UK.

Before the changes were announced, it was 100,000 Avios + £853.

How does this price with the Barclays Upgrade Voucher? Let’s remember how the voucher works:

  • you pay the Avios required for the next cheapest class of travel
  • but you pay the taxes and charges of the class you actually travel in

Cost today of an off-peak New York Club World flight using a Barclays Upgrade Voucher:

85,000 Avios + £350 – ie:

Where does this number come from? 85,000 Avios is the cost of a return World Traveller Plus ticket to New York off peak.

What do you save using the voucher? 75,000 Avios (160,000 – 85,000)

What’s the implied cost if you value an Avios at 1p? £1,200 (85,000 x 1p + £350)

Cost two weeks ago of an off-peak New York Club World flight using a Barclays Upgrade Voucher:

52,000 Avios + £853

Where does this number come from? 52,000 Avios was the cost of a return World Traveller Plus ticket to New York off peak.

What do you save using the voucher? 48,000 Avios (100,000 – 52,000)

What’s the implied cost if you value an Avios at 1p? £1,373 (52,000 x 1p + £853)

This is actually a good result IF you have 85,000 Avios in your account. Last month, using your Barclays Upgrade Voucher to fly to New York in Club World cost you 52,000 Avios + £853. Today, you need 85,000 Avios + £350. The latter is definitely better value BUT you need to have the points.

Barbados

Some routes come out of these changes better than others. Let’s look at Barbados instead.

The ‘headline’ price for a return off-peak Club World flight to Barbados is now 180,000 Avios plus exactly £450 if you live in the UK.

Before the changes were announced, it was 125,000 Avios + £718.

Cost today of an off-peak Barbados Club World flight using a Barclays Upgrade Voucher:

95,000 Avios + £450

Where does this number come from? 95,000 Avios is the cost of a return World Traveller Plus ticket to Barbados off peak.

What do you save using the voucher? 85,000 Avios (180,000 – 95,000)

What’s the implied cost if you value an Avios at 1p? £1,400 (95,000 x 1p + £450)

Cost two weeks ago of an off-peak Barbados Club World flight using a Barclays Upgrade Voucher:

65,000 Avios + £718

Where does this number come from? 65,000 Avios was the cost of a return World Traveller Plus ticket to Barbados off peak.

What do you save using the voucher? 60,000 Avios (125,000 – 65,000)

What’s the implied cost if you value an Avios at 1p? £1,368 (65,000 x 1p + £718)

For this route, it’s a clear loss. You now need 30,000 more Avios when using a Barclays Upgrade Voucher, and even if you have them, the reduction in taxes and charges – £268 – means it is a bad trade-off.

Avios devaluation

Let’s be clear – if you have a lot of Avios, these changes are positive on some routes

As the numbers above show, the Avios changes are actually GOOD NEWS on some routes if – and only if – you have a lot of Avios.

Last month, using your Barclays Upgrade Voucher to fly to New York in Club World cost you 52,000 Avios + £853. Today, you need 85,000 Avios + £350. That’s a good deal.

However, last month using your Barclays Upgrade Voucher to fly to Barbados in Club World cost you 65,000 Avios + £714. Today, you need 95,000 Avios + £450. This ISN’T much of a deal.

However, if you don’t have 85,000 or 95,000 Avios in your account, it is a moot point.

As I said last week in another article, British Airways believes that all Executive Club members are rolling in Avios. If they’re not, they can simply take out another US credit card and pick up a 100,000 points sign-up bonus overnight.

This is far, far from the case. Outside the United States – which means for the vast majority of Avios collectors – Avios are hard to pick up at scale.

How the majority of non-US Avios collectors work is that they pick up a few here, a few there. If they are lucky (and with a bit of credit card bonus churning) they can earn enough each year for a premium cabin redemption.

Imagine how Barclaycard Upgrade Voucher cardholders are going to feel when they realise that, overnight, the number of Avios required for the New York flight has gone up by 63%.

They don’t even know that the Avios requirement has gone up.

These changes would have been more acceptable if the HfP reader sitting on 52,000 Avios and a Barclays Upgrade Voucher had been given a few weeks notice to redeem a New York ticket at the old rate.

Surely you can just buy the extra Avios you need?

When I wrote a similar article last week on how old-style American Express 2-4-1 vouchers were impacted, some people replied that it didn’t matter because ‘you could just buy the extra Avios you need’.

This is true for some routes, like the New York example above, but it misses a key point.

In our example above to New York, the Avios requirement has gone up by 33,000 points. However, your ‘taxes and charges’ bill has dropped by £503. As it happens, you can buy 35,000 Avios for £575 at standard BA rates.

You are still worse off if you buy the additional Avios but admittedly only by £50 or so. However, that’s not the key issue. The issue is that the £575 cost of the Avios becomes a ‘sunk cost’. If you cancel your flight ticket, you’re not getting that £575 back.

Yes, you’ll get back the cost of the flight – 85,000 Avios + £350, less the £35 cancellation fee – but there’s no refund for the additional Avios you were forced to buy in order to have enough to make the booking in the first place.

On routes like Barbados, you CAN’T buy the extra Avios you need using your taxes saving. You need 30,000 more Avios for your ticket than you did two weeks ago, but the cost of buying those is £495. Your taxes and charges payment has only come down by £268.

Barclays will soon let you trade your voucher for an Avios lump sum

Barclays recently announced that, from 2023 (not clear when), it will be possible to accept an Avios lump sum payment instead of taking a Barclays Upgrade Voucher.

Details are very sketchy. It was implied that the lump sum will not be fixed and could be personalised based on your value to the bank, although it wasn’t spelt out this clearly.

It also wasn’t clear if this offer will be open to everyone or just people who get their voucher from a certain product (Premier only?) or perhaps even only those who hold Premier and a credit card and so would earn two vouchers. All will become clear as 2023 progresses.

Conclusion

I’m not trying to claim that these Avios changes have completely trashed the value in the Barclays Upgrade Vouchers. They haven’t.

In fact, if you’re ‘Avios rich and cash poor’ then you are better off on many – but certainly not all – routes.

The key idea behind all of these articles, however, is that most Avios collectors in the UK are NOT ‘Avios rich and cash poor’. You certainly can’t put many Barclays Premier customers in this category.

In the US, of course, where you can be a college student and pick up 100,000 Avios or its equivalent from a different credit card sign-up bonus every few months, it is a different story. These people have lots of Avios but little cash. BA has made a decision that the needs of US credit card holders are now the driving force behind how the Avios programme is structured.

PS. As I said last week, this is not hyperbole. The head of Air France KLM’s Flying Blue programme said the same thing at a conference I attended in September and repeated the claim in a podcast last week. To quote:

“for us, we’re really trying to improve our proposition …. to make it more attractive for Americans to earn miles both in our co-brand card with Bank of America, as well as to transfer miles from the US banking partners into Flying Blue and redeem via Flying Blue …. because like I said, that’s where the money is.”


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (157)

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  • VinZ says:

    V interesting thanks. A bit OT, but can I book to NY and back from Miami using the voucher? Do I have to call them up to do so? Also, can I get everything back if I decide to cancel and paying for the cancellation fee?

  • Mark says:

    So for those who booked just before the changes and would have preferred to pay the new pricing, has anyone had success asking for a reprice without risk of losing the seats? I recall Rob saying No, but I also think some people have noted success in the comments.

    • duggie1982 says:

      I had success, they were going to cancel then rebook but she managed to do a manual reprice instead, took the extra avios but still waiting on the £35 charge and £400 refund and its been almost 2 weeks since I done the reprice (BC upgrade voucher)

  • Mark says:

    BA Marketing, must really despise you right now!

    • Rob says:

      They’ve just booked some ads today!

      • meta says:

        BA doesn’t care about negative publicity. They always have a copy paste response for all the negative articles that appear in the press.

      • Skywalker says:

        Brazen! In the words of Virgin “BA don’t give a shiatsu” 😀

    • Will says:

      I think BA’s reference experience is that the worse we make it, the more of them come and the more they spend.

  • Freddy says:

    Is the stuffed series running all the way through to Christmas, I hope so

  • Dan says:

    Is there any way to gain a 241 voucher (or 50% miles discount) with Qatar airways or Singapore Airlines? Or worst case scenario, even with Virgin…

    Miles and points can always be accumulated with Amex or similar, but would love to accumulate them and spend with a boost like a voucher. Only wish that the ultimate goal was a bit more aspirational than a CW…

    • Rob says:

      Not at present.

    • Mark says:

      There is with Virgin, via the Virgin Atlantic Credit card. Works a little differently though. You can only get 2for1 if you have Silver or Gold Flying Club status, though using them as upgrade vouchers often works out better.

    • QFFlyer says:

      Even allowing orignation outside the UK would do…how I miss that Lloyds voucher!

  • Craig says:

    I think this assumption that “most U.K. collectors are avios poor” is unfounded. Avios / BA have that data and know exactly how many avios each person has and just because flying blue is focusing on US customers does not mean BA / avios are doing the same. Unless you have data to back up this statement I don’t think you should continue saying it. Personally I collect a lot of points from shopping portals and occasionally buy points as well during bonuses so credit cards are just one avenue for collecting.

    • Colin MacKinnon says:

      Until last week I had about 800,000 Avios and 500,000 American Airlines points because of cheap prices during the pandemic and not being able to get to the USA without cleansing myself in Mexico for a fortnight!
      Plus the really cheap flight we’re Star Alliance so I have points there to use as well! So I would have looked very Avios rich until the other day!

    • Rob says:

      I think a quick scroll through the comments to these articles (coming from a group of people who are 10x more invested in the Avios universe than the average collector) tells you all you need to know.

      • Mark says:

        The losers are always going to be more vocal than the winners.

        The biggest issue I have is the fact that such wide-reaching changes were made with no notice, and that inevitably damages confidence. If BA is getting the message that people are unhappy that’s not a bad thing. They make money through people holding significant Avios balances and the message is clearly that people cannot rely on their being able to get out what they had anticipated.

        All of that said, there are upsides to these changes, and most people in the short term at least will not be significantly worse off. The key, as always, is flexibility and willingness to change approach to get the best out of the scheme. That requires work, but if it were easy and there were no risk, everyone would be doing it and that clearly would not be sustainable (or, alternatively, result in non-existent availability and no-one here would be happy).

        There have been plenty saying they are giving up / paying cash from now on. Good luck to them. If it happens that should increase availability for everyone else, however I suspect the reality of current cash prices will result in reconsideration of that position in many cases.

        I do think the broadly negative tone of many of the articles here is driving some of that sentiment. It could probably do with articles covering, for example, using a 2for1 on Iberia services with some real life examples of how those price up against BA. I’ve seen quite a few comments from people looking at South America redemptions, not understanding that is an option. Or maybe a round of options for people to buy Avios at less than the headline BA price for those who do need to make up a shortfall on the lower cash options.

      • DaveJ says:

        Not sure it does.

        If you took the comments seriously then you’d think no one on here would still fly BA or get companion vouchers etc but they keep coming back despite spending most of the year going on about how much they hate BA.

      • JDB says:

        I don’t think the comments are that representative; it’s like TrustPilot where people just go to complain. As HfP has identified in the ‘stuffed’ series a significant number of people are unaffected and it seemed to me and probably others in that fortunate position politic to shut up. If the comments are being used to take the temperature, I find the whole ‘Avios poor’ line quite strange anyway given all the comments re huge number of people benefitting from Amex and Barclays churning out Avios/MR like never before in the form of increased (repeat) SUBs, retentions, promotions etc.

  • lambshank13 says:

    Barclays told me via chat that next year I’ll be able to choose 7,000 Avios instead of the cabin upgrade voucher.

    • Mark says:

      Which is interesting but unlikely to be attractive as a long term proposition to the majority. For someone spending £10K/year on the paid card, for your £240/year you’re getting 5K additional Avios on spend over the free card plus 7K in lieu of the voucher. You’re paying 2p/Avios on that basis and would have to spend £34K/year to get it down to 1p/Avios.

      • Mark says:

        And worse in practice since if you spend £34K on the free card you’d still qualify for a voucher or, presumably, the Avios alternative.

    • James C says:

      7,000 Avios. They’re having a laugh aren’t they? Either that or their intel is suggesting most people are using them to upgrade into CE on the shorter routes…

      • Mark says:

        Not sure why they’d want to make it overly attractive… It is probably based around what they pay BA for the avios vs the voucher.

  • Andy says:

    What are the new rates for upgrading using Avios on these routes? Priced on highest Avios?

    • Mark says:

      You can see by doing dummy bookings on ba.com. It looks to me like the old avios difference – e.g. 48K avios off-peak return to New York to upgrade from WT+ to CW.

      It also applies ~£1K in taxes and fees so this is not RFS pricing. In fact the total cash price I see on some dates I picked at random is as much as £1,700 for next winter, in addition to the 48k avios. Won’t be jumping on that in a hurry…

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