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Virgin Atlantic devalues ANA First Class flight redemptions to Japan

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If you are considering travelling to Japan now that the country is reopening, the obvious options – especially if you want to earn Avios and British Airways tier points – are British Airways and Japan Airlines.

(Japan Airlines is a member of the oneworld alliance, alongside BA, so you can earn Avios and Executive Club tier points, and spend Avios, on its flights.)

Qatar Airways is also worth a look, of course, with the resumption of flights to Tokyo Haneda and Osaka announced yesterday – see our other article today.

using Virgin Points on ANA is the best way to use air miles to get to Japan

There is another option ….

There is a third airline flying directly from Heathrow to Tokyo – ANA.  ANA runs a daily service, departing at 7pm from Heathrow Terminal 2, to Tokyo Haneda, the nearest airport to the city.

ANA is a member of Star Alliance.  This means that you can credit ANA flights to Lufthansa Miles & More, United MileagePlus, Singapore Airlines Krisflyer, ANA’s own Mileage Club or whichever other Star Alliance airline you prefer.  

How to use Virgin Points to fly ANA

You can obviously redeem miles from any of the Star Alliance airlines for reward tickets on ANA.

You may not know, however, that ANA is also a Virgin Atlantic partner.  You can redeem your Virgin Flying Club points for tickets on ANA. 

Even better, the rate has historically been VERY attractive, especially when compared to an Avios redemption.

You can also earn Virgin Points when booking cash tickets on ANA, if you want to steer your next business trip their way.

Using ANA miles on Virgin Atlantic to Japan

How many Virgin Points do you need to fly ANA?

You can see the Virgin Flying Club earning and spending chart for ANA on this page of the Virgin Atlantic website.

Assuming you are based in the UK, these are the key numbers you need to know:

  • Economy return flight (London to Tokyo) – 65,000 Virgin Points
  • Business return flight (London to Tokyo) – 95,000 Virgin Points
  • First return flight (London to Tokyo) – 170,000 Virgin Points

One way redemptions are possible for half of the above cost.

Hang on …. isn’t First Class meant to be 120,000 Virgin Points?

Yes, it was. Until yesterday.

With no notice, Virgin Atlantic has increased the cost of First Class redemptions on ANA from 120,000 Virgin Points to 170,000 Virgin Points.

That’s not great, however you look at it. A 42% increase in the points cost of an award with no notice can’t be justified.

That said, of course, availability has always seemed to be limited to ONE First Class seat per flight, especially on the aircraft with the new ‘THE Suite’ product which we discuss below. This was never a great option for a couple unless you book one seat and wait to see if another is released later.

What about taxes and surcharges?

Historically there were no fuel charges added to ANA redemptions using Virgin Points which kept taxes and charges from the UK at around £250.

During the pandemic, however, ANA has had a couple of rounds of surcharge increases. From 1st August 2022, the surcharge alone was £281 return when travelling from the UK (€315 from Europe). I haven’t seen a recent example but you should expect to pay nearer £700-£800 return in taxes and charges in total.

Use Virgin Points on ANA

Virgin Atlantic lets you book 331 days in advance

Virgin Atlantic only allows you book rewards 331 days in advance.

Whilst this does not sound like a problem, ANA itself opens up its flights for booking at 355 days before departure.

This puts an additional squeeze on reward availability using Virgin Points, since reward seats can be snapped up by ANA’s own frequent flyers or members of partner programmes which work on a 355 day basis before you have a chance to book.

You cannot book ANA redemptions online. You need to call Virgin Atlantic which is, unfortunately, not always easy at present.

ANA has various European route options

If you can’t find availability on the ANA flights from London, they also flew – pre coronavirus – to Tokyo from Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf, Brussels, Vienna and Paris.  Dusseldorf and Vienna have yet to return.

The current schedule for Summer 2023, which starts on 26th March, is:

  • Frankfurt – 14x weekly on a Boeing 787-9
  • London Heathrow – 7x weekly on a Boeing 777-300ER
  • Munich – 3x weekly on a Boeing 787-9
  • Paris CDG – 3x weekly on a Boeing 787-9
  • Brussels – 2x weekly on a Boeing 787-9

Virgin Flying Club appears to have access to the same availability as Star Alliance partners. The Aeroplan (Air Canada) and United Airlines websites are both decent places to search for seats before calling Virgin Flying Club to book.

Is ANA any good?

Oh yes.

In 2019, ANA launched a new Business and First Class seat on its Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, and the London route was the first to get it.  It looks rather good, to put it mildly.

The First Class suites, known as ‘THE Suite’, are arranged in a 1-2-1 configuration.  Finished in dark woods, there are two only rows which make this an intimate cabin:

ANA first class the suite

The seat almost takes the full width of the suite, with only a thin slither along the side given over to storage or as an armrest. There is also an exceptionally large 43” screen which has a 4K display.

THE Room is ANA’s new Businesss Class product.  Club World style, half of the seats face forwards and half face backwards.

If you look at the photo below the first thing that will strike you is how disproportionately wide the seat is.  Look at the head rest.  You can see the protective cover, which is about what you’d expect the seat width to be. THE Room looks like it is twice as wide – more sofa-like than a seat! ANA says that THE Room has twice the width of their old business class seat (click for Anika’s flight review) which is not hard to believe.

Of course, this is business class and the trade-off is that it does taper into a cubby hole where your feet end up.  Nonetheless, the extra width at torso and shoulder height makes sitting and sleeping in this seat feel a lot less cramped.  It is a very clever piece of design.

ANA business class the room

I haven’t flown THE Room but I have sat in the seat at a media event.  It is, genuinely, huge.  At one point there were two of us sat side by side on the seat and we were able to have a normal conversation, with a decent bit of space between us.

Not content with a sliding door, THE Room also has a second opening which slides up and down.  This allows the crew to pass food to you whilst the door is closed, getting around one of the biggest issues with Club Suite and Qsuite.  The 24 inch 4K TV also looked very impressive, although it was not operating.

ANA business class the room

Conclusion

Putting up the cost of First Class redemptions on ANA by 42% – with no notice – is clearly not great. It doesn’t exactly do much for trust in Virgin Points and Virgin Flying Club either.

That said …. and I know it’s difficult to look positively on a 42% increase in points price:

  • Business Class, and indeed Economy Class, redemptions are unchanged
  • it was always likely that Virgin Atlantic would drop ANA redemptions entirely once they joined SkyTeam, so if this is what it takes to keep them then it’s a good trade off
  • 170,000 Virgin Points is still – given the quality of THE Suite – very acceptable value for a ‘once in a lifetime’ flying experience, especially on such a long route
  • because it was exceptionally tough to get more than one First Class redemption seat per flight, this wasn’t an option for many readers anyway

Remember that flying out of Frankfurt, Munich, Paris or Brussels may make it easier to find availability, but you won’t be able to experience the new Business Class and First Class suites this way.


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 15,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

15,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

A generous earning rate for a free card at 0.75 points per £1 Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 40,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 40,000 Virgin Points.

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

(Want to earn more Virgin Points?  Click here to see our recent articles on Virgin Atlantic and Flying Club and click here for our home page with the latest news on earning and spending other airline and hotel points.)

Comments (38)

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  • BajiNahid says:

    OUCH! That is a LOT of points to be asking for the suite.

    • Rob says:

      Even though BA wants 190,000 Avios + £350 to New York, which is half the distance and a worse seat / service?

  • David says:

    Goodbye to the single best point redemption worldwide. Tokyo to LHR one way First for 60k Virgin points and £20 taxes and fees 🙁

    • Rob says:

      The £20 of fees went 2-3 years ago.

      • meta says:

        It’s only 25k points more or £250 if you value Virgin points at 1p. It’s still very good value.

  • Sam says:

    Doesn’t really matter does it? I mean ANA flights are virtually non-redeemable even using ANA’s own miles, not to mention Virgin when you’re at least 10 days slower than their own members to grab the seats. (Redemptions bookable 365 days in advance vs c355 days)

    • meta says:

      Availability of award seats is better now than a few months ago. Though it’s worse for Virgin. It’s 330 days vs 355 days for Star Alliance/ANA. So you need to use some advance tactics if you want seats.

      • Ivan says:

        Did you book with cash or with miles via any of the Star Alliance airlines programmes?

    • Chris W says:

      I agree this isn’t big news. You can’t book two seats and you would struggle to even find one. If you are that eager to fly it the extra miles cost isn’t much more

      • meta says:

        You can book two seats. I have done it two weeks ago. Flexibility is key and avoiding busy periods (Xmas/NY, sakura season and Golden Week).

        • VALittleRed says:

          How? May I ask your ways of finding availability? Any particular tools? Can be flexible date wise but see nothing available in bus/first

          • meta says:

            I search via Aeroplan. I usually book first via Star Alliance then cancel at 330 days and call Virgin to re-book, but recently they have been changing patterns on how they release. When I want to book, I monitor the patterns for 2-3 weeks. It requires checking at various times of the day. They are not always released at midnight.

          • VALittleRed says:

            Thank you for these tips!

        • Ivan says:

          How do you book via Star Alliance?

  • Just Nick says:

    I was lucky enough to fly on ANA in The Suite using Virgin miles last November. It was an incredible experience and is great value even at the higher redemption cost. The challenge is finding availability and then being able to call Virgin before the seat has gone.

  • Kwab says:

    With ANA, if flying with Virgin miles always have a Plan B. Any schedule changes, flight code changes and they won’t hesitate to cancel your ticket and unless you check your booking regularly you might not realise till very near to your departure!
    JAL on the other hand in the case of schedule changes will always move any BA avios bookings over to a new flight automatically.

  • Peter says:

    I had this booked before the pandemic started but then it got cancelled. I’ve been trying to book again for over a year but never finding any availability…

    • Chris W says:

      Exactly. If there’s no availability, does it matter what the points price is?!?

  • Archie says:

    I booked HND-LHR on ANA in First using Virgin points at 330 days out. Due to fly in a little over two weeks time. I paid 60k points plus £154.

    A bit of a challenge finding availability and then calling Virgin to make the booking, but incredible value. There’s been some timing changes to my booking to account for the longer flight time (now 14h 25m) but all looks good. Seat 2K confirmed!

    • Simon says:

      I flew The Suite a couple of weeks ago HND–LHR — booked via LH miles (having flown LH F to HND). The Suite is pretty amazing and trumps JAL F by a country mile. The routing over Greenland and Alaska took the flight to almost 14 hours. All in all, fantastic experience. The only downside – a minor gripe, nothing more – was The Suite lounge at HND: pretty rubbish for a business lounge, but it was an F one.

  • Jack says:

    Why is changing a price with no notice such an issue? Companies are well within their rights to change their prices based on their commercials. Loyalty customers are too precious at times!

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