Chat thread – Friday 14th March
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Shouted at by another passenger for eating crisps…
I was on an Iberia flight from Lima-Madrid, 1215-0605+1, in business class. Seat 6H. We’d had lunch service and I’d slept for probably approx 3hrs, so we’re about 5hrs into what ended up being a roughly 10hr flight.
I’d woken up and was hungry because it was roughly 5-6pm so I went into the gallery to get some crisps and chocolate. Which I then proceeded to eat, whilst watching a TV show. After finishing those, I was still hungry, so I went and got another bag of crisps, noting that although the cabin was dimmed, a lot of people were awake (not entirely surprising, given it was 5-6pm).
Anyway, I’m finishing the second bag of crisps and the person diagonally in front of me, 5K I think (window) turns around and started shouting at me. I didn’t catch it the first time because he’d turned around and chatted with his friend consistently throughout the flight, and because I was wearing headphones. So I finished up my bag and was about to put it in the other bag, when he started waving at me. I put one ear out from the headphones…
Hey! Stop with the bags of crisps! You been eating for 30 minutes now and you are waking me up and the whole cabin is sleeping and you are with the bag of crisps.
Not verbatim, but close enough (and English wasn’t his first language). So I stopped putting the bag inside the other bag, and mimicked the “calm down” motion with my hands – two flat palms face down, raising and lowering.
I don’t like to be the **** making too much noise on a flight, but it was crisps and there are only certain ways you can eat crisps. So I was pretty reflective about my actions about what I could do differently…
Then I started thinking, hang on, it’s crisps and he just shouted at me. Across a cabin. For at least 10 seconds. Twice (because I didn’t hear the first time). What kind of person does that?
It bothered me.
As we were deplaning, he and his friend dropped passive aggressive comments about me – how was the flight? Couldn’t sleep huh? Yea. Too noisy. Blah blah.
Now I’ve been there, trying to sleep and your brain focuses on a noise, and you zero in on it. And it’s annoying. But to shout at someone for eating crisps… Just seemed too much to me
Anyway, wondering what people’s thoughts are about it, and what the worst you’ve experienced and how you dealt with it, on either side…
I think I would gave grabbed another six packets and stood near his seat eating them,
Generally people like that have bigger problems in their lives than someone eating crisps. Not your problem of course. Really poor way for them to have behaved.
Any recent experience of crediting missing BA tier points? Is it easier to call, or make the claim online?
Good morning from the Qatar premium lounge T4 LHR. As reviewed on here, it really is an excellent space.
Slight query at check in about onward plans, flying to Vietnam and the check in lady needed to check we had a departing flight to leave Vietnam. Our onward flight is to Cambodia and she had to phone somewhere to get authority to accept that. All sorted within a couple of minutes, but slightly puzzled as to why that call was needed.
Timed walk from the Hilton at T4 to check in was 7 minutes, took 23 minutes from the Hilton to the lounge. So no complaints. Be aware that the first 20 seconds of the walkway is outdoors.
@ayearinmx – Firstly I would have spoken to the inflight services manager, they would have spoken to the passenger/Passengers, and that should have been the end of it.
Failing that, I would have given as good as I got, because it’s a well known fact, that bullies don’t like being bullied. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior to a fellow passenger.
I think I would gave grabbed another six packets and stood near his seat eating them,
Funnily enough I did only think about doing that after I’d got out of the airport. I think it just kinda shocked me how he behaved because like I said, I don’t like loud people either, but the more I thought about it… Would he have shouted at an adult with a baby? Or some other noise? I do kinda wish I’d have got another packet now…
Lounge Q: Headed to LHR T3 this morning (on the last leg of a BA Silver run) – presume there’s no question that, with a new additional cardholder Amex plat. in hand, I should head for the Centurion lounge? (rather than the other two accessible with Priority Pass). If so, any tips for it – seating with charging, try the cocktails perhaps, …? TIA
I think I would gave grabbed another six packets and stood near his seat eating them,
Funnily enough I did only think about doing that after I’d got out of the airport. I think it just kinda shocked me how he behaved because like I said, I don’t like loud people either, but the more I thought about it… Would he have shouted at an adult with a baby? Or some other noise? I do kinda wish I’d have got another packet now…
Best to ignore and/or de escalate. You really don’t know where it would go with nasty folk like that, you could end up both being arrested.
@ayearinmx the best piece of advice I have ever received was to ask myself “what do you want to get out of this situation” before getting stuck in.
You wanted the situation to be de-escalated and you achieved this.
Any other action would have kept the situation simmering.
Additionally you had achieved your objective of eating two bags of crisps to alleviate your hungry tummy. So there wasn’t really any benefit to be had from taking a stand.
Some further observations on how you are feeling as a result:
– these were standard airline issued crisps made available for the purpose you used them for.
– I feel sorry for the other passenger as he is obviously too dumb to work out how to put ear plugs into his ears. Maybe he tried to use them but inserted them in his nostrils or some other orifice but clearly he struggles with life. Also he must have had an inadequate mama for him to be capable of behaving so poorly in public.
– I would imagine that the disturbance from shouting at someone is higher than that from eating crisps. Therefore he defeated any argument he may have had immediately he opened his mouth.I understand your sentiments but congratulate yourself for handling it as you did and not being the a$$hole.
There is a Reddit thread for this sort of thing btw!
r/AmItheAsshole
As always, sound advice from frogee. The easy answer is always tell them to F off, but then I usually have a default thought in my head “my energy is precious, I’m not wasting it on you”. I then think that I’m glad I never have to see you again, but I’m sure I will meet another one just like you on the great journey of life. Easier to be over polite, it throws people off.
What kind of crisps? A packet of beef monster munch would stink out the cabin.
Take a pot noodle the next time.
@ayearinmx You say you were wearing headphones so probably weren’t aware about how noisily you were eating and handling your crisp packets. Would have probably caused me to think you were being a selfish d*** but I wouldn’t have said anything.
Some people have a heightened sensitivity to some noises that can cause increased anger.
You probably eat crisps in the cinema and think nothing of it.
While the thought of smashing his head back and forth off the IFE screen until its a bloody mess is appealing, Froggees advice is best.
Some people have a heightened sensitivity to some noises that can cause increased anger.
I do. But I ask the crew if they can help. There was a lady who was watching a movie on her iPad. The crew approached her and politely reminded her to use headphones.
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Good morning from the Qatar premium lounge T4 LHR. As reviewed on here, it really is an excellent space.
Slight query at check in about onward plans, flying to Vietnam and the check in lady needed to check we had a departing flight to leave Vietnam. Our onward flight is to Cambodia and she had to phone somewhere to get authority to accept that. All sorted within a couple of minutes, but slightly puzzled as to why that call was needed.
Quite normal to need to prove onward travel especially for Asian countries where these things are sometimes checked at immigration. Bit weird she had to call but I find Qatar check in at T4 very thorough , when I go to India they always carefully check my visa including checking the evisa on their phone themselves even if it’s already stamped in my passport. Whereas Emirates just glance at it and off I go! Enjoy your trip!
….I was on an Iberia flight from Lima-Madrid, 1215-0605+1..we’re about 5hrs into..although the cabin was dimmed, a lot of people were awake (not entirely surprising, given it was 5-6pm)…
I generally avoid these LH flight times flying to the east and you’ve explained why.
Slightly bittersweet moment this morning when I looked at my BAEC account and realised I have re-qualified as BA Gold for the last time. My double tier points from a recent holiday have pushed me over the 1,500 tier point threshold so a final year of easy access to Row 1 CE and lukewarm rose champagne awaits me.
Amusingly, it now shows c.3,450 points to achieve Gold Guest List. I have another 30 TPS booked before the end of the month so it’s doable, but would require 8 First returns and a handful of connecting flights in the 18 days I have left in my collection year. Having reflected on the situation I shall settle for a final year of Gold.
Slight query at check in about onward plans, flying to Vietnam and the check in lady needed to check we had a departing flight to leave Vietnam. Our onward flight is to Cambodia and she had to phone somewhere to get authority to accept that. All sorted within a couple of minutes, but slightly puzzled as to why that call was needed.
Once spent 60 minutes at HKG as BA flew me out to HKG; they couldn’t give me my boarding pass to Melbourne at check in. What wasn’t said was I had missed that my Australian Visa had expired. Got to Connections in HKG and they said no. Was easily sorted in the connections 5 minutes and I had the visa confirmed; and the system updates instantly which was great. Would have been better if it was sorted at Heathrow on the way out though
Good morning from a very busy Club Lounge South at Heathrow. RJ status keeps giving, next stop Belfast. Is it too early for Champers? Asking for a friend.
@strickers tell your friend it’s never too early for champers.;-)
Good morning from a very busy Club Lounge South at Heathrow. RJ status keeps giving, next stop Belfast. Is it too early for Champers? Asking for a friend.
Tell your friend to knock himself out and have a wee glass of fizz.
🍾🥂 Cheers.
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