Maximise your Avios, air miles and hotel points

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  • in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    @JDB yes, it was a throwaway comment. I have insurance to cover the hotel on the return. Unfortunately I will lose the prepaid rate at the Sofitel in Athens though.

    Currently sat on the runway. I’ve been nervously watching the weather reports, but it seems all good so far.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Well taking exception unnecessarily does appear to be your form.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    As an update – because I have no one else to talk with, the room service lasagne at the Marriott Heathrow was scalding on the outside and frozen in the middle. What to do? I wouldn’t even expect BA to pay for this.

    It’s a pity as I’m rather hungry. No dinner on the flight. I lost my original row 1 seat booked months ago, and ended up in row 8 tonight. Apparently only 3 roast beef were loaded and the remainder of dinner choices had seafood, of which I’m allergic too. Fun times!

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    @froggee, thank you! Your sympathy is fully felt. The ATH back and forth in a day was as horrendous as expected. I feel like I’ve been voraciously shaken, tumbled dried and spat out the other end. Parts of me hurt that I didn’t know existed. Age kicking in I expect. I’m not used to 8 hours in one day on a plane without a bed. At least, not in the last decade. Feeling too long in the tooth for all this nonsense.

    I’ve been on the go for longer than I can count, just landed in LHR and another 4.30 am start to look forward to in the morning. As a girl who loves her sleep, this is horrendous ☹️


    @Strickers
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    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    I didn’t mean to come over as unkind but your unfortunate experience should be a lesson for all that very tight connections at the minimum connection times do frequently go wrong, you’ve clearly been lucky before now. You took a calculated risk and sadly it didn’t come off.[/quote]

    I also didn’t mean to come across as so scathing in my response. I normally would consider sarcasm as the lowest form of wit. However, it can also be an effective vent for frustration. I certainly felt somewhat better after that post lol. Risk was unfortunately not in my calculation on this occasion.

    I do hope though your post can also be a lesson on avoiding confrontational and troll like questions. Probably best to be avoided when tensions and emotions are running high and someone is feeling like everything has gone to shit.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Again thank you all for taking the time to respond. These latter replies are very helpful and informative. I’m now winging my way back to LHR, and at least this flight has WIFI unlike the morning flight.

    I’m now enjoying a G&T, everything I needed to rearrange is done, business is complete, and I will hopefully will be home soon, barring potential cancellations and delays with tomorrow’s snow forecast.

    A lesson has been learnt here with regards MCT, and I have gained further knowledge of UK261. As an educator, I can appreciate this as providing some of the positivity I need to balance out all the crappiness when plans go wrong.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Thank you, that was the response I was hoping for.

    My query in relation to outbound and inbound on UK261, relates to the fact when outbound and inbound dates are only a day apart, and an outbound delay means your inbound is also delayed as a knock on effect, how does this factor when claiming compensation? While this question may appear as emerging from greed, it’s actually curiosity and a learning opportunity.

    In fairness I’d happily pay £350 to avoid 4.30 am trips to the airport, and in fact, I do pay much more in regularly choosing afternoon flight times. The fact that I need to leave tomorrow morning at a similar time to get home is simply unavoidable, just like this morning. That doesn’t stop me feeling cross about it though.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    To add, the 13 minute go around also includes time to manoeuvre to the remote stand. Something we needed to do anyway. It was not my intention to deceive in saying it added about 5 minutes on. That is factual.

    The problem with some of the responses and pile on, is their basis rely on assumptions. It can be tedious correcting those assumptions. It’s also surprising that those who advocate for remaining factual when constructing arguments, suddenly resort to assumptions and distractions.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    I honestly have to laugh at this idea you can get up in the morning, check the weather forecast and decide to change flights, easily at that. In my world, I have commitments, places I need to be, things I need to organise both on the day of travel, and at the time of booking travel to hope things go smoothly.

    As a regular traveller from Belfast for quite a long time, it is my experience these flights arrive early, and very very rarely get bussed. I doubt that purely luck. It’s a small efficient airport.

    Perhaps the travel could have been better thought through, though drawing from previous experiences I did not foresee any risk.

    My original post was written at a time of frustration and dread at the 48 hours ahead, and looking some positivity I guess. My curiosity in the question was more related to what happens with UK261 when several factors lead to delay.

    As for unequivocally arguing the delay was caused by weather this is rubbish. Even taking JDB’s timing of the go around that equates to 13 minutes. The combined delay in leaving and being bussed was much longer than 13 minutes.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Angela, hope you achieve today what you need to and get home to your family this evening.

    Thank you, but unfortunately I get back into LHR late tonight and won’t get back to BHD till tomorrow morning. Then it’s straight to the office from the airport. The idea of another night in LHR is killing me!

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    @NorthernLass There’s definitely nothing glamorous about this trip. I’m returning borrowed research materials such as original documents and books that are too valuable to be sent by courier.

    I’m off on a real holiday next week, when our schools have the midterm break. We are going to a place called Whisper, north of Vancouver. For the kids it’s a snowboarding trip and for me, it’s a writing retreat in beautiful surroundings.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    So why did you book a connection with only 60 mins?

    I didn’t plan to respond to this post, but considering I am extra cheerful this morning after making my way in the rain, wind, cold and darkness to T5 at 4.30 am, I’ll give it a go.

    Obviously, I was hoping to miss the connection and spend two nights away from my family, bored and lonely at a LHR hotel. I’m a huge fan of enforced solitude. There’s nothing quite like 3 days of plane food, airport food and hotel food to get the gastric juices flowing. But of course, the food might be free, which of course makes it taste sweeter. Oh and did I mention how much I love getting up in the middle of the night to travel in miserable weather? I guess the prospect of flying to and from ATH in one day was just irresistible. I can’t wait to experience how that feels. Meanwhile I’ve the joys of rearranging work plans, explaining why I can’t babysit my lovely niece tomorrow, letting people down and facing a backlog of work when I get home.

    The answer to your very helpful question, has nothing to do with work schedules, costs or previous experience of these connections. That would be too obvious.

    Thanks for your contribution. Apologies if my post is a bit sharp, but I’m feeling inordinately grumpy and unhappy this morning. Apologies to everyone else, I don’t normally vent.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Perhaps I’ve been lucky, but this is the first the 60 min connection was an issue for me. Normally, these flights arrive in 10/15 minutes early from BHD. From row 1, I’m usually in the arrival hall very quickly.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Flights are not just as easily cancelled and reorganised when the weather doesn’t suit us, as you are suggesting. If only life was that simple. However, I asked for opinions and while I disagree somewhat with yours, I thank you anyway. It’s always good to have different perspectives.

    To add, we almost landed at half 4. Regardless of the go around, we were being bussed to arrivals. It would never have been feasible.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    @JDB there are many incorrect assumptions in your post. There is nothing I would want more than to be at home having dinner with my family. Anybody who frequently spends time alone in hotels, knows this is not a holiday or something to hope for. Some of us consider that time invaluable.

    My business in ATH doesn’t involve a meeting with a client – there is more to business than meeting people.

    I am arriving in ATH a day late and arriving home a day late. At considerable expense and inconvenience.

    Leaving late and then getting bussed certainly took up more time than the 5 minute go around, which the pilot termed a touch and go.

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Ty for the advice very helpful. The wind at Lhr was only the icing on the cake. The pilot said we would be delayed landing/arriving due to the missed time slot and being put in the holding queue, getting bussed, so the wind was really not the issue in the delay. I’ll put it in and see how I go. TY

    in reply to: Missed connection tonight
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    AFAIK weather was fine leaving Belfast and most of the delay was due to a combination of leaving late and then being bussed. We landed within 5 minutes of the touch and go.

    Yes all in one booking. I’m having to fly in and out of ATH same day, which I’m not looking forward to.

    in reply to: Alternatives to the Maldives
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Thank you some really interesting suggestions here. I have done Bali last year, but Madagascar seems like the most interesting of these (though more research needed) as we are keen wildlife enthusiasts.

    Great to have some new ideas to think about!

    in reply to: LHR – HND route info
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    I know it’s a different route, but our taxes in F going LHR to HND recently were £671. When I was pricing this up last year they were well over £1k. When I queried at the time the price differences in taxes, I was told they fluctuate.

    in reply to: F on A380 or J on 787
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    I flew in CS on the night flight 777 to Dubai recently, and it worked well for me. No headache and I got around 5 hours sleep which led to an early night on the day of arrival. This helped me adjust to the time zone. I could have chosen F on the A380 but the the £670 per head taxes (x3) for F in comparison to £350 per head for CS made my mind up for me.

    in reply to: Dubai questions
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    Some really great tips and advice here – thank you. The app will be hugely beneficial for us.

    After doing quite a lot of research today on hotels, both Marriott and Hilton, I think I’ve decided on Hilton Dubai Palm Jumeirah. Seems to tick all the boxes are reviewers score them highly.

    I’ll probably pay cash though as the rates seem decent. 5 nights is costing me just under £1500 including taxes, whereas the points would be 280k. I’m not sure if the points rate includes the taxes, but I like to get over 1p a point, regardless of the listed base value. Although I’m kinda new to Hilton points so maybe I’m overly optimistic.

    in reply to: Dubai questions
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    When I started collecting hotel points I went with Marriott initially because the Bonvoy card seemed a good way of collecting points. I do like Marriott and they treat me well. But now I’ve been given Diamond Hilton, I’m noticing their properties are cheaper and their promotions seem much more generous than Marriott. I want to build my experience with Hilton and see how upgrades go. Marriott are very accommodating with upgrades as Titanium.

    As for where we will be in Dubai, my guess is all over the place lol. Looking at prices for Hilton, it may make more sense to spend cash if not going with original choice of WA.

    in reply to: Dubai questions
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    How much on points did the RC cost? I’ve loads of Bonvoy points, but saving them for a Masai Mara trip next year.

    in reply to: Dubai questions
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    I looked at all the Hiltons and none of them was exactly right! In the end I settled on the HB package at Grosvenor House as you can also use the beach club and amenities at one of the Le Meridien properties. We have 5 nights there, then hopping over to DOH and doing 5 nights at the RC before getting the direct QR flight back to MAN.

    We are on BA 107 on the A380 on the way out (thanks Barclays), and quite excited about our first time “upstairs”, lol, albeit in the old CW seats.

    That sounds like a fascinating itinerary!

    I would prefer to keep this trip more on a budget level as we are not long back from Japan. I have the Hilton points now too lol. So it will definitely need to be one of the three choices I’m considering.

    in reply to: Dubai questions
    Angelamc11 195 posts

    I’m only there for 5 nights. Last minute trip and winter sun before I go back to work.

    I’m now considering the Hilton Dubai Palm Jumeirah or Conrad may be more suitable for us. We are definitely not the type to spend everyday at the hotel.

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