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NorthernLass

I really don’t know what else I can say.

There was no difference in the taxes I paid between the 241 booking and the BC. This is your point a

Yes, there was slight extra tax to pay for the GLA to LHR thanks to the slightly different airport fees. This was the same for the 241 as it was for the BC. This is your point b.

Point c is incorrect. As I’ve written above there was a slight increase in taxes. The increase wasn’t to do with a RFS cost because it wasn’t a RFS addition.

I DID NOT pay any extra Avios for the domestic leg, either on the 241 or the BC booking. The number of Avios I was charged was those equivalent to a departure from London ie it was free in terms of Avios required, as per BA rules.

I clearly got a CS agent that was able to do a mixed class booking as this was what was required to allow the BC voucher to work. Ie the booking was for economy domestic and PE for the TATL. The voucher gives a one class upgrade on an Avios booking, putting all legs into club. It is a single booking reference and a single E-ticket reference.

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Probably should add “in my view and experience “😉

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Tunnocksteacake. The CS got it wrong. You should not have been charged for the domestic leg. I have booked Avios flights from the regions and for TATL flights I have never been charged extra Avios for the domestic leg.

You may wish to log a complaint with BA and see if you can get them back.

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Please go back and read my posts, I did not pay extra departure tax for my 241 vs BC. I paid the same. Ie points a and b are correct, c is wrong

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Over 2000 miles you do not pay any extra Avios.

You will pay a difference in taxes due to differences in the rates from individual airports. This is most likely a few pounds more than from London, unless you are travelling from Inverness where it will be significantly less due to reduced U.K. departure tax

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The amounts I paid per person between the 241 and BC were the same for both taxes and Avios because they are the same flights. You do not pay for the domestic leg on a 241 either (apart from differences in U.K. departure tax or airport fees).

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The RFS is applied to domestic connections, it’s just Reward Flight Saver only applies to flights under 2000 miles and gives you a fixed fee rather than the variable tax/surcharge/airport ripoff costs. Over 2000 it’s not a RFS and you pay whatever the tax/surcharges/airport ripoff costs that apply, but do not pay anything extra in Avios for the flights.

On the 241 voucher I paid the taxes etc for the business class flights. On the BC you pay the taxes etc for the cabin you are upgrading to, ie the business class cabin. Therefore the taxes etc are identical pp.

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And from Manchester it was £890.65

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Done a search myself. Club off peak to San Fran

From London, 125k plus £868.86
From Glasgow, 125k plus £880.67
From Inverness, 125k plus £697.47

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I think you are confusing things a bit. RFS was/is a scheme where BA charge a fixed fee for Avios flights. Over 2000miles you pay the standard taxes that you would pay for a revenue ticket. This is nothing to do with RFS.

Also, yes adding the domestic leg can vary the taxes a little especially when from Scotland. However for me this was the same as what I paid for the 241. As I’ve now written 3 times, the receipt shows zero and I was not charged even £1 for adding the final Glasgow leg

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RFS only applies to flights under 2000 miles and it was back in 2020 when BA changed the rules so that domestic legs were not free on RFS. However this did not change for flights over 2000 which are not RFS and still have free domestic legs

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Ok, I wasn’t quite expecting the forensic analysis 😂

You are off course correct, the upgrade voucher took an Avios PE number of miles of 65,000 return, whilst the 241 took the club number of miles 125,000 for two tickets. These were off peak dates.

What I meant but didn’t word well was that this was the same category / zone and that there was nothing extra for the domestic leg.

There is no RFS fee charged for adding the domestic leg, and I have never been charged one when booking a TATL in all the years of booking Avios flights.

As I put, I have the receipt from adding the final Glasgow leg to the Barclaycard booking. It shows zero for both Avios and taxes, and I was not charged anything extra when I added this. I was also not charged anything extra when the outbound Glasgow leg was added.

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Really not much to tell.

In September I wanted to book three club seats from Glasgow to San Fran using both a Barclaycard upgrade voucher and BA Amex 241 in August 2023. I was expecting it all to work like a 241 booking where I book online the outbound and phone to add the return. I should have done a little more research as the website forces you to search for either premium economy flights or economy flights to then upgrade. Unfortunately if you include sectors with different cabin configurations ie one with PE the other without, then the system isn’t bright enough to show you one with upgrade from PE and the other from economy, even when the domestic leg is “free” with Avios anyway.

In the end I phoned BA and whilst on the call the phone agent asked me to book the London San Fran leg and then the phone agent added on the domestic leg to the Barclays booking. I then phoned again a couple of weeks later to add the return transatlantic leg (from LAX) once released and then again the next day to add the final domestic Glasgow leg.

I have the email receipt from the final addition of the Glasgow leg and it shows zero Avios and cash. The totals are also the same as those booked using the 241 voucher.

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I have booked a domestic with transatlantic flight using a Barclaycard upgrade voucher with Avios. I had to phone to do it as the search couldn’t cope with upgrading an economy ticket to club for the domestic leg at the same time as a premium economy to club for the international leg.

I then phoned to book the return when it was released.

I didn’t pay any extra Avios for the domestic leg, and I paid the same Avios & tax as a BA Amex 241 booked at the same time.