Tube change: all Heathrow trips via Zone 1 priced at peak rates from today

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• Andrew J says:

  4 Sep4 September 05:57

  Does this affect journeys FROM Heathrow? The article only mentions going TO Heathrow from Zone 1/through Zone 1.

  • John says:

    4 Sep4 September 06:36

    Yes

    • Andrew J says:

      4 Sep4 September 06:46

      Article probably needs an edit then.

• John says:

  4 Sep4 September 06:47

  You have two other options:

  – take the bus to Hatton Cross and start your tube journey there
  – break your journey at Earls Court, i.e. go to the barriers, touch out and touch in again**

  It will still cost more than what it did yesterday, but not as much as the full fare.

  **If there is more than one traveller and you have luggage, one person could take all the cards and do it. The same is also true for journeys to Gatwick which, if they go through East Croydon, are cheaper to split there

• Ian says:

  4 Sep4 September 06:47

  Tube journeys from Hatton Cross are now free.

  So exit at Hatton Cross and enter again.

  • Ambient says:

    4 Sep4 September 06:56

    Using a different card of course

    • Andrew says:

      4 Sep4 September 08:18

      I don’t think a different card is needed

  • John says:

    4 Sep4 September 06:57

    Thanks, didn’t notice that – will save £9.90 of bus fares on next family trip from Heathrow

  • Andrew J says:

    4 Sep4 September 07:01

    Useful for when staying at Hilton Garden.

• TimM says:

  4 Sep4 September 06:55

  Are the prices of rail tickets with inclusive Underground connection to Heathrow affected?

• John says:

  4 Sep4 September 06:55

  The Oyster deposit/fee is not a £2 increase, it’s a £7 increase because the fee is no longer refundable.

  Oyster cards sold before 23 Feb 2020 had a £5 (or many years ago, £3 or £0) deposit, which is refundable if you deactivate the card ~24-48 hours after purchase.

  Oyster cards sold between 23 Feb 2020 and 3 Sep 2022 had a £5 fee which acts as a temporary deposit. Provided that you touch the card on a reader as part of a trip twice, between 12 and 18 months after the date of purchase (a free journey between Heathrow terminals would count), this fee is refunded as credit onto the card and the card remains active.

  • Jamie says:

    4 Sep4 September 13:47

    I’ve yet to receive any £5 credit for the oysters I took out between 23 Feb 2020 and 3 Sep 2022 and its been over 18 months.

• Ls says:

  4 Sep4 September 07:48

  Remember this removes railcards discounts from the journey, which only will apply to off peak journeys on oyster.
  I wonder if this is a platitude to Heathrow express, who will now be cheaper if booked in advance (and will give railcard discount)

  • LS says:

    4 Sep4 September 08:42

    Correction: on the tube the old fare structure applies when using a railcard it seems. Railcards still work.

• Mikeact says:

  4 Sep4 September 08:19

  What is the daily price cap at present, Peak. Non Peak ? Mon/Friday.
  And does the Senior Rail Card take off a third when linked to Oyster ?

  • Rob says:

    4 Sep4 September 08:22

    No railcard discounts on the tube.

    • Ls says:

      4 Sep4 September 08:27

      Yes there are, on oyster. When you put your railcard on an Oyster card, you get 1/3 off all pay as you go fares and caps, but off peak only.

    • Alan says:

      4 Sep4 September 11:48

      Are you sure Rob? I was pretty sure Senior Railcard got my folks 1/3 off their off peak fares (they got it added to their Oyster).

      • Spurs drive me mad says:

        5 Sep5 September 07:35

        You can also add disabled railcard to Oyster card has to be done at a station.

  • aseftel says:

    4 Sep4 September 08:37

    The TFL single fare finder does show the Railcard still discounting the fare. Looks like it’s actually that ‘the off peak fare is the same as the peak fare’, rather than ‘peak at all times’ – an important distinction for Railcard holders.

    • LS says:

      4 Sep4 September 08:42

      Yes: on the tube the old fare structure applies when using a railcard it seems. Railcards still work.

      Actually it seems the off peak price has been changed to the peak price, but still counts as off peak. Railcard gives ‘old’ prices off peak
      To/from Zone 1:
      Elizabeth line:
      Peak (now all times): £12.80, cap £14.10 [full fare]
      With railcard off peak: £8.45, cap £9.30 [1/3 off new full fare]

      Tube:
      Peak (now all times): £5.50, cap £14.10 [full fare]
      With railcard off peak: £2.30, cap £9.30 [1/3 off old-off peak fare]

      To/from Zone 2:
      Tube:
      Peak (now all times): £3.30, cap £14.10 [full fare]
      With railcard off peak: £1.25, cap £9.30

      • Mikeact says:

        4 Sep4 September 10:03

        Thanks for the breakdown…are Sat/Sun both considered Off Peak days, or are there any anomalies?

        • martin says:

          4 Sep4 September 11:29

          yes, Saturday/Sunday/bank holidays are off-peak all day.

• dougzz99 says:

  4 Sep4 September 08:35

  I had no idea you could buy HEX tickets so cheaply in advance. Whilst I’ll spend hours on flights and hotels, I usually just arrive at Paddington, mentally moan about the price, and just buy a ticket. With my railcard the one-way price for December was £3.65, which is a throw away if unused for some reason.

  • Andrew J says:

    4 Sep4 September 08:54

    And the good thing is that whilst you’re fixed to the date, you’re not fixed to the time of the train. I used to do this a lot pre-pandemic when I would always be buying non-refundable flights months in advance in some sale or other and then just buy the HEX tickets at the same time.

    • the_real_a says:

      5 Sep5 September 10:24

      Its very useful to mention this – if you are not familiar with this service, you would presume that it works in the same way as regular trains – fixed to a specific time. I made this mistake myself until a couple of years ago when Rob corrected me.

  • ADS says:

    4 Sep4 September 10:33

    Just be aware that the cheap HEX tickets sell out months in advance (if they ever exist), especially at weekends

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