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Is it worth redeeming Avios on Japan Airlines? Trip report with photos.

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HFP reader Alan (@nitbix) recently published a review of his recent flight on Japan Airlines on his blog, A Small Geek in a Big World .  Japan Airlines is a oneworld alliance member and you can redeem your Avios points for flights with them.  Despite that, I have never written about them in detail, so I was pleased that Alan has allowed me to reproduce his review here.  Over to Alan ….

Japan Airlines has refurbished its long-haul economy class seating recently.  I had the chance to fly with them this month, on a return ticket booked Paris CDG to Tokyo Haneda (Tokyo’s smaller airport) and back Tokyo Narita to Paris CDG.  On the return flight I would get to try the new Boeing 787-800 Dreamliner.

Let’s have a look at the various features of JAL’s service between Paris and Tokyo, which I think would probably be representative of the rest of their intercontinental offering. Some of the observations (e.g. the lounge), may not be applicable to some readers that do not have British Airways status or equivalent oneworld Emerald or Sapphire status.

JAP 787

On the ground: departing Paris

JAL has a strange arrangement at Paris CDG, to say the least. Rather than being in the same terminal as the rest of oneworld (2A and 2C), they codeshare with Air France and are situated in terminal 2E.

This means that unless your oneworld status comes from JAL’s own Mileage Bank program, or you have AirFrance status as well, you won’t be allowed in the lounge. The good news is that if you have a Premium Economy ticket (where they operate a 3-or-more-class aircraft), the lounge is included in the ticket.

I was actually offered the upgrade to Premium Economy on the way out for just €250 – in hindsight this would have been a good bargain. I would advise that if you get the option you should take it.

On the ground: departing Tokyo

Departing from Narita was incredibly simple. Tokyo is a well organised city and getting to the airport was a breeze.  JAL has an impressive 2 bags per person allowance even for travellers in economy, and we definitely needed it given the amount of shopping.

The check-in attendants were incredibly polite and helpful, and they even wrapped up our umbrellas for us. They took the trouble to ask if we had bottles in the suitcases and marked them as fragile. There are separate security lanes, one exclusively for JAL status holders and First class travellers, and one for OneWorld status holders.

For the first time in my life, whilst going through a priority security lane, I had someone actually help me unpack and arrange my things in trays.

The seat

This is the new seat currently in service on JAL’s 777 aircraft:

JAL 777 economy seat

The renewed Japan Airlines economy seat has some very nice features, one of them being a USB connector (on the left side of the screen in the picture). The screen is about the size of an iPad, and it seems to have very good resolution and brightness/contrast. This is in stark contrast with what you get with BA and Virgin Atlantic, for example, which in many cases are just pitiful and I end up watching things on my laptop.

The meals

This was the first meal we were served (remember that this was an economy seat):

JAL first meal

and this was the MOS burger kit we received as our 2nd meal on our return flight:

JAL second meal

The meals were simply amazing.  Apart from the fact that on the return flight we were served two full meals and two snacks, Japan Airlines is the only airline that I know of that seem to make an effort by giving nice food with a Japanese twist, and plenty of small extras on the side.

Not to mention the metal cutlery, which is a refreshing change from what you get elsewhere nowadays.  Our second meal on the return flight was a build-it-yourself MOS burger (if you’ve been to Japan you know what I’m talking about), which was delicious and fun.  The only thing I can really say about the food (in-flight and in the lounge) is that I ate too much. But I always do that when I’m flying so I can’t really fault JAL for it!

The service

There clearly are two separate levels of service, and not in the way you think of.  Japan-based JAL staff are way more courteous, polite, and helpful than the foreign ground-based ones. It is part of Japanese culture to be helpful and nice, and I think that shows in the training they receive. They also seemed to be incredibly polite and professional between themselves, and always had a smile on their face (I don’t speak much Japanese, but I do understand enough to tell when someone is being direct, rude, or dismissive).

The lounge

While the slightly odd arrangement they have at Paris CDG meant I didn’t get to see the Air France lounge, the Japan Airlines lounge in Narita is a very strong point in favour of JAL. This is a fully-fledged oneworld lounge so you can gain entrance with any oneworld status, so we used my Cathay Pacific Gold (thank you Amex!) to get in.

It is one of the best business class lounges in which I’ve been. The food was of very good quality and the drinks selection was excellent. Top that with excellent views of the airport, a free massage (was all booked while we were there though), excellent massage chairs, nap rooms, and some decent alcohol selection, and it sits up there with the best business class lounges.

Avios and Tier Points

Readers beware!  If you book a JAL discounted economy flight, you will end up with a 25% Avios earning rate based on miles flown, rather than the 100% of miles flown you would receive if you flew BA.

You still get the full Tier Points though.  It may be the case that if you book a BA codeshare you will get the full Avios as well, but I’m not sure about that.

None of this matters if you are booking a reward seat, of course.  It is worth remembering that, if you take the Paris service as I did, your taxes will be a lot lower because you will not pay long-haul UK Air Passenger Duty.

Final thoughts about the trip

It is hard for me to say anything bad about flying JAL in Economy.  They seem to have nailed most of the things that the other airlines get wrong: basic little touches here and there (like the USB port that I used to charge my phone), the extra baggage allowance, and the fact that you didn’t feel like cattle at any point during the process.

Compared to the experience I had the following day combing back to London from Paris CDG (that’s a completely different story that I’ll cover in a future post on my blog), this was a great experience.

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Comments (32)

  • nux says:

    The section under “Avios and Tier Points” is not correct, it is all quite clear on BA.com: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/executive-club/collecting-avios/flights

    JAL earns 30% for deep discount economy (N & Q fares) and 50% for most other discount economy fares.

    There is a status bonus same as on BA/AA/IB/US flights.

    TP earning is 50% for discount economy, same as BA discount economy.

    Under a BA codeshare you would of course earn avios as if it was a BA flight.

  • Kiran says:

    Am also wanting a bit more info on JAL redemptions. Are the Avios costs the same as BA in economy/PE/J/F etc? What about fees/taxes from UK / EU? There’s clearly some people that would rather travel on JAL rather than BA so this information might be interesting information for those wanting to travel to Japan.

    • Rob says:

      Avios cost will be the same default as its the same distance.

      Economy taxes ex London return are £383 on BA and an astonishing £514 on JAL. From Paris it seems to be £428.

      • Kiran says:

        So, really the only reason to go with JAL would be it you (really) preferred the service or the timings are more convenient.

        • Waribai says:

          Yes, and the timings are much more convenient from a jetlag point of view as they leave in the evening so you arrive in the evening in Japan too…

      • Polly says:

        Wow, and I thought BA always had the highest taxes! Good to read they are not the worst then. Good post but why waste avios on Y? Best to aim for J and F, if possible. JAL offer yet another option for the Far East. Thanks for the variety of posts, and maybe now and again remind everyone, it’s a personal blog!
        Peace please!