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One interesting quirk with the new Avios scheme we never expected

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My main article today summarises all of the Avios changes that took place yesterday.

Everything is as we expected.  Except one thing.

As you will know if you followed my articles on the changes, Iberia is introducing its own reward pricing chart with its own peak and off-peak dates.  It looks like this:

Iberia chart PNG 2

What I didn’t expect is this:

ba.com is using the Iberia pricing chart to price Iberia rewards.

Here is the proof from ba.com:

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This flight – if priced using the British Airways chart used for BA and all other partner airlines – should cost 120,000 Avios.  However, ba.com is pricing it using the Iberia pricing chart and applying the Iberia off-peak calendar.

You should still not book this flight on ba.com.

If you move 68,000 Avios to Iberia Plus and book it that way, the tax will fall from £323 to £137.  However, not everyone can move Avios into Iberia Plus because a) your Iberia account must be open for 90 days before you can transfer and b) you must have earned 1 Avios point in the account.

If you can’t fulfil both of the criteria above, booking via ba.com will be your only option.  I can see a lot of people heading down to Madrid in the near future ….


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (64)

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  • Worzel says:

    ‘I can see a lot of people heading down to Madrid in the near future ….’ .

    Yes, this would suit us-being 15mins from BRS. No need to go up to LHR, just jump on EZY(who provide a great service) and take it from there.

    We were in the Madrid Business Class Lounge last month and impressed with it-that said we’ve little experience of these places.

    I wonder how long this quirk will last-doubtless there’s someone doing repairs as I type!

  • Peaceful Waters says:

    That new Iberia service from Manchester to Madrid is looking useful!

    • AndyGWP says:

      Thanks for the reminder 🙂

      [stupid question] – Can someone remind me how the pricing works with codeshares? :/

  • Phillip says:

    There is one benefit I realised about this – you get access to almost 3 weeks’ worth of availability via BAEC before Iberia Plus does. Iberia Plus only lets you book 11 months in advance whereas on BAEC you can book roughly 11 months and 3 weeks ahead. For routes that could sell quickly, it may be worth the extra bucks.

    • Rob says:

      Didn’t know that, thanks (and indeed for the tip-off late last night, although my wife wasn’t happy that I stayed up to write the article 🙂 )

  • Danksy says:

    Makes the 241 voucher very poor value!

    • Worzel says:

      Agreed, to be able to use a 2-4-1 on Iberia (or other carriers) would make the scheme more interesting.

    • Trevor says:

      Despite Raffles’ insistence that it’s the best perk out there, I’ve always found it poor value – I have 2 sitting on my account and not sure what to do with them.

    • Polly says:

      Will worth it for F redemptions long haul, ESP Asia, or East Coast US.

  • Dale says:

    Is it possible to use the 2-4-1 voucher with this arrangement? An article on how best to use the 2-4-1 would be nice.

  • Jordan D says:

    Are Iberia rewards still non-cancellable?

    Also – Zone 6, Peak, Full Fare Economy is looking like *exceptionally* poor value! 😉

    • Rob says:

      Iberia rewards have always been cancellable, whether booked on Iberia.com or ba.com. The only thing you can’t cancel is non-Iberia redemptions booked on Iberia.com/

    • xcalx says:

      Iberia awards are cancellable Euro 25 per person

  • Adam says:

    Another note.

    I booked an Iberia flight from GIG -MAD a couple of weeks ago and it priced at £24.70 on BA. The same as the $ equivalent on Iberia. Upon further research, it seems BA has adopted Iberia pricing on a couple of south/Central American flights. Certainly flights from Brazil and Columbia, price between £24 and £47 for business class. A few others are around £150 but bizarrely, Equador pricing a at £647pp.

    • VP says:

      If only BA was that generous:) I do not know about other countries but in case of GIG this is due to local laws in Brazil which do not allow for fuel surcharge to be added. If you look at the break up, I am sure you would not find any YQ/YR surcharge.

      If you do a LHR-GIG return booking then BA includes YQ/YR on both legs since you are originating from London but if you book it as two separate tickets you will have to pay the surcharge only on outbound (sucks if you have 2-4-1 I guess) as BA cannot add YQ to tickets originating in Brazil. Give how expensive S. America tickets can be this provides seriously good value if you are returning from Brazil specially now with Off peak pricing.

      On another note, Rob are there are any more such destinations served by BA where they cannot add their favorite YQ due to local regulations? Will be to handy to have the list if there are any such countries particularly in S.E Asia.

      • JQ says:

        YQ is limited by the Hong Kong Civil Aviation Department to be an actual fuel surcharge, airlines need to get approval for their YQ each month they sell tickets. In May 2015 it will be HK$205 for long haul routes (i.e. for BA).

        Not sure exactly what tickets it applies to. Raffles ran an article about using Expedia HK to benefit from this.

        Also if the £ maintains its recent small rise against the USD this week, tickets priced in USD-linked currencies should become cheaper in GBP from next Wednesday

  • Sebastian says:

    Iberia does look the way forward, even without a 241 voucher. For me unless AMEX do something special I can see them losing a lot of BA PP customers.

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