Luxembourg joins the UK coronavirus quarantine list

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• Simon says:

  1 Aug1 August 07:11

  I was in T5 yesterday and neither the North or South Fast Track lanes were open when I went through. Normal North Track was really busy, the sign showing how busy it was had 5 people on it. There were long queues just to scan your boarding pass.

  • JP says:

    1 Aug1 August 07:35

    At t5 now – an hour queue to check in bags in silver queue. Busiest I’ve ever seen it here

    • Yuff says:

      1 Aug1 August 07:41

      How long is check in and security taking?

      • JP says:

        1 Aug1 August 07:56

        Well over an hour. Most people are pulled out of the queue to make their flights. Makes the queuing pointless. Organised chaos.

        • Andrew says:

          1 Aug1 August 08:09

          Is First Wing security open now?

        • Rob says:

          1 Aug1 August 09:14

          Yes

        • Yuff says:

          1 Aug1 August 08:25

          Flight is at 15.40 tomorrow, how long is a reasonable time to arrive at the airport, 3 hrs before.
          CE if it makes any difference but it doesn’t sound like it if fast track is closed

        • Rob says:

          1 Aug1 August 09:13

          Heathrow was empty when we flew to Jersey two Saturdays ago – this was a 3pm flight. The same morning people had been queuing out of the terminal and down the slip road.

        • Yuff says:

          1 Aug1 August 10:51

          Thanks Rob

    • TGLoyalty says:

      1 Aug1 August 08:18

      I see management still haven’t worked out they need more scanners open as people start flying.

• JD says:

  1 Aug1 August 08:12

  I was at T5 yesterday and was obviously there at a quieter time (around 11:30am) as it took around 20mins to drop bags and get through security. Didn’t realise Galleries North was open, Galleries South was relatively busy, although still easy to find an area for the family, however a third of the space in there was still fenced off.

• Gumshoe says:

  1 Aug1 August 08:45

  @Yuff – for a 1540 flight I don’t think it’ll be very busy and 3 hours would be overkill.

  All the reported queues tend to be in the morning as BA, in its infinite wisdom, seems to have scheduled the vast majority of its flights to depart before 1000.

  • Yuff says:

    1 Aug1 August 10:51

    Thanks Gumshoe

• Zoe says:

  1 Aug1 August 08:48

  How are people’s experiences of quarantine? We got home on Thursday and my husband got a check in call on Friday. Number seemed to belong to a small charity so he wondered if they had been contracted to make the calls.
  Do we think they have data in front of them about where the mobile they are calling is?

  • Peter K says:

    1 Aug1 August 08:56

    Surely that is irrelevant as you’ll be keeping everyone safe by staying in quarantine as legally required?

    • Rob says:

      1 Aug1 August 09:11

      No. You don’t even need to be at home, since you are allowed to go shopping if you don’t have people who can shop for you.

      • letBAgonesbe says:

        1 Aug1 August 09:49

        You are only allowed to go shopping for ESSENTIAL stuffs, if there is no other way to get hold of them.
        If you live in London, Sainsburys Chop Chop, Waitrose Rapid, Deliveroo and so on are available, so in all fairness, most people can get their essential shopping online.
        So, yes, you would need to be at home at all times, and you should only leave as a last resort for food shopping.

      • Chris Heyes says:

        1 Aug1 August 11:20

        Rob@ I like how you subtly try to encourage your readers to break the “law” lol
        Could we have a discussion (with list) just how many readers have broken the “law”
        i admit to breaking the law i used fraud to get extra Clubcard Points i said i had a cat when in-fact
        it was a lie lol

        • Chris Heyes says:

          1 Aug1 August 11:31

          even worse my dead cat (which i didn’t have) was reincarnated several times at both places of residential multiple errors of judgement of which i blame Rob lol
          (i have to blame someone why not Rob)
          Thanks Rob got loads of Clubcard points/ plus Avios lol

        • Lady London says:

          1 Aug1 August 13:58

          That’s tame stuff, @Chris Heyes.

          If you want to know what people are really doing you just have to listen carefully here. With an audience of 40,000 who would ruin any game by overuse things people want to keep on using will not appear very much and defo not on some thread listing them. You can learn much if you share judiciously and put in the time here and elsewhere.

        • Anna says:

          1 Aug1 August 16:49

          I got fed up after waiting 10 months for cash back for the insurance policy for my OH who actually exists! But I think everything I’ve seen on here fall into the category of breaching terms and conditions, rather than actual fraud.

        • Lashious says:

          2 Aug2 August 12:42

          @ladylondon, if only we had a dm button, I’d dm you 😉 I don’t know the little cute loops but I sure do want them 🙂

    • John says:

      1 Aug1 August 09:21

      No, it’s a perfectly relevant question to ask if personal location data is being exposed in the process.

      Successive governments’ track records on data protection are hardly encouraging, and if they are subcontracting the contact process as the OP suggests then that’d be an additional concern, the fact is that data are misused, it’s not a trivial matter.

      • StillintheSun says:

        1 Aug1 August 09:27

        Can we also have a running tally as to the number of fines actually given out with every quarantine article. A quick skim of news sites suggests one might actually been given out!

      • Lady London says:

        1 Aug1 August 12:51

        TBH Im not happy with the level of personal info being asked for. They want to know your associates and there:s nothing on the form guaranteeing confidentiality noe guaranteeing that the data wont be shared or processed for anything else. I put soneone abroad on the form but resent having their data added / linked to mine anyway.

        Has anyone noticed the UK car hire form introduced by thr govt a few years back also asks for your NI number? what data are they linking? (you can phone to get tge code to avoid this).

        Other governments like the French gave guarantees that data would not be kept and re-used.

        With the UK government’s history on bungling incompetence n protecting citizens’ data and so many initiatuves apparently being used as data grabs, or hoovering up medical data of patients without specific consent in the UK to sell to the pharmaceutical industry(a recent thing theyve snuck in), would you trust the UK with any of your data?

        • babyg says:

          1 Aug1 August 16:24

          Really? This is a genuine concern – or just a general moan (i do agree the gov bungle things BTW)? I bet you own either an apple or android device, in which case these companies already know so much more.

    • Zoe says:

      1 Aug1 August 09:38

      He was sitting in our kitchen. I read today that numbers are rising in Cornwall so in a week or so I wonder if all who visited there will be quarantined too? My daughter has moved out to her Grandparents’ house for 2 weeks as following the rules would have us in separate parts of the house and constantly cleaning the kitchen.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        1 Aug1 August 12:14

        From 6 to 20 in a week. Yes a rise but insignificant in reality.

    • Colin says:

      1 Aug1 August 17:56

      Also, you’d have to be really thick to go to work, for example, and potentially get caught out by your employer for breaking quarantine rules. It’s only two weeks anyway, which shouldn’t be a big deal if you can work from home

  • letBAgonesbe says:

    1 Aug1 August 09:46

    I believe 1 out of 5 people are called on their phone to check if they are following the rules.
    I came back from Spain, I did not get a call, but my friend did.
    He was due to go on another holiday on the Isle of Wight, but in the end he decided not to go and lost around a £1000.
    He was playing with the idea of going anyway and just say that his eye sights needs to be checked, but in the end he did the right thing.

    • kumar says:

      1 Aug1 August 19:54

      Do kids need to answer the phone?

  • ankomonkey says:

    1 Aug1 August 09:47

    Same experience here – landed from Spain on Tuesday, call received Wednesday morning. No contact since. I also wonder how much the government have invested in the technology to comprehensively track people identified as needing to quarantine.

    If we’d have had the same trip, but returned a couple of days earlier we wouldn’t be subject to quarantine at all, which is frustrating. I do think the government should have been a bit more lenient with people returning within a couple of days of the quarantine change as we had no chance to change our trip to avoid quarantine.

  • Anna says:

    1 Aug1 August 09:53

    It’s VERY difficult and time-consuming to get the legal authority to track someone’s mobile phone; I doubt any government department would have the resources to do it.
    I live in one of the “local lockdown” areas so I would be perfectly free to go on holiday but not to sit in my mum’s garden at the moment!

    • Doreen says:

      1 Aug1 August 12:40

      Are you allowed leave a lockdown area to travel ??

      • Anna says:

        1 Aug1 August 14:23

        Yes, as long as you’re only travelling with members of your own household, and you don’t go in anyone’s private home or garden!

  • TGLoyalty says:

    1 Aug1 August 11:09

    They probably have some of the data from your form but I very much doubt they have any data on where your mobile is when you pick up. They are relying on people following the rules and telling the truth when they get a call.

    • Lady London says:

      1 Aug1 August 13:00

      They can get it though. Request just needs to be made through the established channels that are in use constantly. For a while at a large telecom company in the UK I sat near a printer that was continuously printing out these requests all day.

      That’s why criminals use burner phones and worth remembering that many phones these days can be tracked even if switched off in some cases. For security if you neef it dont just switch off take the battery out as well

• Rupert says:

  1 Aug1 August 13:01

  @Anna. Who needs legal authority? There is a whole tech industry around geo locations services. Your consent is in T&C’s. So for example a third party company can agree with Google to access your location. It does this by triangulating your mobile phone using the Wi-fi network. Your phone is always trying to connect to a Wi-fi network. The pin point is within 3 metres or so. The long/lat can be imposed on google maps, and street view will provide a picture of the location, almost anywhere in the world. This tactic is used by software companies tracking illegal software usage.

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  • TGLoyalty says:

    1 Aug1 August 14:01

    But all the data is meant to be anonymous according to these T&C’s

    I have no problem with someone knowing User 1 is using their app on an iPhone in my approximate location but I do have an issue with them knowing my name and any other personally identifiable data.

• Rupert says:

  1 Aug1 August 15:19

  Have a look at the BA ap privacy policy for example. Combined with personal data, location data, it is also possible to share this data, and I quote from BA –

  Third parties, such as the police and regulatory authorities, to protect our rights, property, or the safety of our customers, staff and assets.

  Always remember a smartphone is a tracking device. Your digital fingerprint is everywhere. 🤔

  • Anna says:

    1 Aug1 August 16:51

    They won’t share it without a RIPA authorization though, and these require a lot of jumping through hoops.

• Rupert says:

  1 Aug1 August 23:08

  RIPA only covers public bodies.

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