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I was in Hamburg yesterday to attend the annual Aircraft Interiors Expo exhibition.

It’s where all the aircraft seat manufacturers, as well as everyone who makes anything else which goes into an aircraft cabin, get together to show off their latest initiatives.

This is the sort of article that Rhys would normally write but (ironically) he is at the Airbus factory in Toulouse this week so I headed off to the Airbus media event at AIX instead. This means you get the slightly dumbed down version 🙂

Airbus luggage bins

See the new bigger luggage bins, side by side

We’ve discussed the deeper and wider Airbus luggage bins in recent weeks because British Airways made a big play of how they are being installed on the latest short-haul deliveries, along with the new short-haul seat.

In fact, they had already been added to the last few Airbus deliveries made to BA with the old short-haul seat, although no formal announcement was made. I think BA wanted to hold the news back to launch with the new interior.

If you’ve not been on an aircraft with the new bins, the image above is a great photograph and one which you won’t see in the wild – an old-style and new-style luggage bin side by side.

As you can see, the new bins are deeper (which means less headroom for you when seated) and wider (so they extend further over the aisle seats, not just the window and middle seats). The upside is that a standard wheely cabin suitcase can be stored ‘wheels in’ on its side, leading to a 60% increase in capacity.

Airbus is able to retrofit these bins to existing aircraft, albeit that it takes 3-5 days. Some airlines have already done this (eg see Lufthansa here). British Airways has made no commitment even though it would end short-haul baggage issues overnight and improve punctuality. It would cost money though ….

A new short-haul galley is coming

Whilst I don’t have any photographs, Airbus had some VR images of a new galley concept for short-haul.

The net result will allow an extra row of seats to be installed in front of the exit row. This has been done in three ways:

  • the crew jump seat is now built into the wall of the loo, so when the jump seat is up it is flush with the wall (and, of course, the loo is narrowed slightly) – this creates an extra couple of inches of space
  • some parts of the galley are spun around, so that as you walk into the aircraft you will see the racking etc directly in front of you – again, this saves more space
  • bulkheads are removed on both sides of the cabin

The net result is enough space freed up to add an extra row of seats in front of the exit row, as long as the seat pitch in the first 12 rows (to become the first 13 rows) is reduced to match the pitch behind the exit rows.

Obviously this doesn’t sound great to you as a customer, but the airlines will love it.

New Airbus A330neo cabin lighting

A new A330neo interior package was launched

Whilst you won’t see this on an aircraft until 2027, from yesterday airlines will be able to order some new interior features on the A330neo. Virgin Atlantic is a major user of the neo and may well be in the market to order more if it chooses not to extend the lease on the Boeing 787 fleet.

These are generally ‘passenger friendly’ improvements:

  • a new cabin lighting system, which will include the ability to have lighting panels down the centre of the cabin in business class (where there are usually no luggage bins) in an airline-specified pattern such as the company logo
  • new linings for the ceiling, door panels and sidewalls which will reduce the aircraft weight by 100kg – for passengers, the benefit is 5 mm extra shoulder clearance at every window seat and 50 mm more foot space
  • very funky new dimmable windows in business class (similar to those on the A350) which give you complete control via a slider up to 99% opacity

The image above shows the new ceiling lighting as it could look in a doorway area.

Expliseat shows at the Airbus AIX stand

New lightweight short haul seats are really VERY light

Airbus had teamed up with French seat manufacturer Expliseat to highlight its latest seat developments. Expliseat has the lightest seats on the market, and this is a key way to reduce carbon emissions.

(There was some discussion about life cycle pollution. New seats tend to be made of specialist materials which cannot be recycled as easily as legacy seating, but of course save huge amounts of CO2 over their lifetime.)

The photo above shows a standard row of seats at the front with the lightest Expliseat behind it. The reduction in weight is huge, from over 11kg to 6.8kg. The frame is made from carbon fibre and titanium with minimal plastic.

To be fair, few airlines will order the base model at 6.8kg. There are plenty of additional options – wider armrests, adjustable headrests etc – which airlines want but which add weight. That said, I sat on the 6.8kg version and it wasn’t bad at all. It does NOT have super-thin seat padding, or at least it feels as if it doesn’t.

Expliseat was also using AIX to unveil its new seat for Air France’s Embraer 190 aircraft – this is the type that BA flies from London City Airport. Here’s a shot:

Expliseat Embraer E190

Note the combined tablet and cup holder, which has a ribbed surface to keep your device in place. There are USB A and USB C sockets, hidden by the iPad in the photo.

Note also the cardboard box which is what Air France now calls a meal in domestic business class. You get two finger sandwiches (not even the three that BA used to offer) plus a chocolate. Super.

There is an adjustable headrest which isn’t pictured.

The base weight of the Embraer seat is 8kg but Air France has specified extras which pushed this up a bit. The Expliseat products are proving hugely popular and a second factory has just opened in France taking total capacity to 37,000 seats per year. Whilst this sounds like a lot, it isn’t that many aircraft.

The stats on the Embraer seat are shocking. Compared to legacy seating, the company claims that each single seat will save $3m in fuel over its lifetime (although what the lifetime is assumed to be is not stated) and return on investment is under 12 months. Expliseat also claims that it has NEVER had a broken tray table in service in the nine years it has been selling seats!

By the way, if BA is listening ….. Air France, from January 2025, will stop selling the neighbour seat in Business Class on its Embraer E190 which has a 2×2 layout. You won’t have a seat mate. Of course, you will also get your meal in a cardboard box ….

We’ll have more from Airbus very soon when Rhys makes it back from Toulouse, where he is watching the first Malaysia Airlines A330neo being assembled.

Comments (73)

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  • TimM says:

    Why do the toilets keep getting smaller when people are getting bigger?

    • Tom says:

      You could ask the same thing about economy seats!

    • Tim says:

      A better question might be why are people getting bigger !

      • TimM says:

        Tim, in some regards it is better nutrition – taller, wider shoulders etc. – and in other regards it is too much nutrition and sedentary lifestyles – excess fat.

    • Tam says:

      Soon they’ll have to start stocking adult diapers for sale on board.
      Not a fan of onboard toilets, even when in business long haul, I suspect they make it uncomfortable so that people don’t have a long sit in a “private cabin”

      • Rhys says:

        The best toilets are those at the front of the top deck on an A380. Huge amounts of space.

        • Bill says:

          Agreed

          • Guernsey Globetrotter says:

            Thanks for that @Andrew. Made my morning !

        • flyforfun says:

          I discovered those on a walkabout while on a QF A380 SIN-LHR. I can’t remember if I was in J, PE or Y but couldn’t sleep and did a few laps of the plane – upstairs and downstairs. Needed to spend a penny after one to many fruit juices at the self serve bar and popped in an F loo. Very nice and spacious! Plenty of room to change into your F PJs rather than contort yourself in the J loos. Or, as witnessed once in QF J, a man stripping off his top at his seat to put his QF PJs on and then repeated the same with trousers. I’m not sure if he was spoken to, but he went to to the loo to change back into his clothes.

          • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

            I’ve seen that public striptease in department store menswear sections too. But only ever by gym hulks.

          • Andrew. says:

            I don’t see the problem with that. If he’s keeping his underwear on, you’re not seeing any more skin than you would do someone by the swimming pool.

            One of my old colleagues used to sit at his desk in a towel for 30 minutes each morning after showering (he and his wife ran 10k to work daily).

            Does make me think of the classic Harry Enfield sketch though.

            https://youtu.be/_T58INCWcYo?feature=shared

          • Guernsey Globetrotter says:

            Gah – my reply above was meant for here!

        • paul says:

          Which other single floor planes would have had a huge First Class or Upper Class bathroom?

          I remember once explaining to an Air Steward that I couldn’t physically fit in one of the economy toilets, he basically said “tough” until I explained it would be “tough” for everyone around me if I didn’t get to go.

          He directed me to the front right-side of the aircraft and I was met with a bathroom around 12ft long, 4ft wide and enough room to swing two cats.

          Just can’t remember the plane or even where we were travelling (would have been to USA I would think) – and would have been within the last 25 years.

          • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

            Hmm I think that you were on an AA 777 at the toilet on the right in the business class galley. It is for sure double length. I remember from my time spent in there after food poisoning.

            The Swiss A330 has the big toilet on the left of the business class galley, opposite the aisle from the purser’s ‘office’

    • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

      I used a BA rear toilet for the first time in January. I was astonished and apalled. I’m small but even I struggled to move around. The sink was too small to ever effectively offer a decent hand washing experience too. With so many young men now over 6 foot 5, where will this space saving end?

  • Jonathon says:

    Another row of seats, lighter seats, and smaller toilets… yay, that’s always better for customers.

    • Tom says:

      It is better for customers, understanding that Airbus’s customers are airlines and leasing companies. “Customers” here are just self-loading freight.

  • Lou says:

    Does this mean BA are going to change their hand luggage allowance sizing to a smaller wheelie? Their current allowance would not fit sideways

    • TimM says:

      I thought the whole point is that the new bins will take a 56 x 45 x 25cm (BA, easyJet, Jet2 etc.) trolley case sideways.

      • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

        Based on my use of the larger bins on Aer Lingus, 40cm is the max comfortable width for storing on its side

      • Mike says:

        Unfortunately they don’t. I have one of the larger carry-on bags allowed by BA and have failed to fit it sideways in the new style bins. Not just on BA, by the way. The worst part is when flight crew insist that you try putting the wheelie sideways, no matter how much you insist it won’t fit, meaning you’re keeping others from moving down the aisle while you make the unnecessary contortions…

        • Ben says:

          Which is why you’re going to buy a smaller bag!

        • Roy Harrop says:

          I seem to recall an article in HfP a little while ago talking there’s a kind of ‘halfway house’ bin which is supposedly easier and quicker to retrofit. It doesn’t take cases on their sides.

    • Bagoly says:

      Much as that would be a pain for those us with 46cm wide bags, that would seem now to be the overall sensible approach.

  • Nick says:

    Like all of the recent, and latest, skinny’ seats on aircraft. the sight of them make me shudder! I don’t know why they don’t just go the whole hog, and install the likes of bare wooden seats you used to get in 3rd Class on the railways!

    IMHO, these are certainly not, ‘passenger friendly’, in any way whatsoever, more just a race to the bottom!

    • Mark says:

      Bare wooden seats would be far too heavy! Bare carbon fibre on the other hand….

      • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

        Surely going the whole hog comfort-wise would be a medival rack with some cackling wretches nearby to throw food at you. I dare say some airlines have the latter sorted already on certain leisure routes.

      • Andrew. says:

        Hmm, you can just imagine the butt crack sweat line on every seat after a flight?

        Although. Top tip, my employer has started putting free absorbent pad dispensers in all the men’s bogs. They are amazing. Just pop them in your boxers if you’re going to be sitting on a hard surface on a hot day – no embarrassing sweat line. Likewise, I suddenly discovered I was going to be covering for a colleague at a presentation, pop them under your pits and no stress sweat marks.

  • ukpolak says:

    Enjoyed this article.

    I flew on Ryanair for a low cost city break back in Feb and had a couple of v small wheelie carry ons in line with their policy.

    I tried putting them up on their side exactly to allow more stuff in, and whilst they appeared to fit easily, the cabin crew did ask me (rather shouted down the cabin in their usual boarding crisis mode of operating) to lay them flat instead. I guess they’d preferred stuff to sit on top of the horizontal cases instead.

    Ps – looking forward to Toulouse story. I did a factory tour there about a decade ago alas for regular punters most stuff was off limits and I hardly saw anything. However, we came across another assembly line at Saint Nazaire whilst on a camping break on the French west coast and that was superb, with A380 components being wheeled around in front of you on huge HGVs before onward flight / barge (?) transport to Toulouse. That involved walking around the regular factory area where Toulouse was all at a big distance.

    • Rhys says:

      Ryanair fly 737s so it won’t have been the same locker. The 737 fuselage is marginally smaller and I’m not actually 100% sure if Boeing offer an overheard bin of comparable size.

      • e14 says:

        Boeing must do? The AA 787 Max has a sideways on baggage compartment

        • Rhys says:

          That’s an entirely different aircraft! We are talking about the 737 here.

          • dundj says:

            Some of the KLM 737-800’s have been updated with the Boeing next generation interior that allows for the luggage to be placed in on their sides.

          • Mark says:

            There’s no such thing as a 787 Max though!

          • Chabuddy Geezy says:

            On the 737 the larger bins are called space bins.

          • e14 says:

            I meant 737 – teach my to keyboard before coffee

      • Erico1875 says:

        Flew on a Ryanair Max last week.
        Bins are large so can take trolleybags longways

    • HampshireHog says:

      Airbus Hamburg tour is a good one, down on the floor in the a320 final assembly hall

      • MKCol says:

        +1
        I was lucky enough to do it when they were still creating sections of the A380 & completing cabin fit out there.

      • ukpolak says:

        Ooh Thank you v much – I happen to be there in a few weeks for the Euros and didn’t realise this was there.

        It looks like the facility is 1h by cab / train from the hotel (city centre) to the site and we’re only there for a couple of days albeit we’re all av geeks and there’ll only be so much football fanzone I can take.

        Do you recommend the tour?

        • HampshireHog says:

          definitely, need to book in advance and provide copy of passport for security check

  • zapato1060 says:

    Also displayed at Hamburg is the Chaise Longue double level business class that funnily enough means the removal of overhead lockers. Wonder if any company will bite?

    • Bagoly says:

      You prompted me to read the CNN article on that.
      The Business version would be great in the centre section, although one does then end up with lots of different seat-types.
      For the Economy version removing the overhead bins would be a problem, but there could be some accessible space under the raised floor

  • The Original David says:

    “very funky new dimmable windows in business class (similar to those on the A350)”

    Is this meant to say B787? All the A350s I’ve been on just have normal window blinds.

    • Rob says:

      Airbus press release says it is an A350 option already.

      • Rhys says:

        Dimmable windows is an option on A350s delivered from ~last year. I know Starlux and (potentially) Japan Airlines have them.

  • Chrisp says:

    We had dimmable windows (and blinds!) on our few months old Qatar A350 from Manchester to Doha 3 weeks ago.

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