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We have had a LOT of emails, article comments and forum posts in recent weeks from readers who are trying to juggle two frequent flyer accounts on the same booking.

It’s not easy, and to add to the complexity there are two totally opposite reasons why you may want to do it.

We’d like your input if you have been in this situation recently.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

Here are the two scenarios you could be in:

Scenario 1

You want to earn Avios in British Airways Executive Club whilst using another oneworld frequent flyer programme where you have status for lounge access, free seat selection etc.

Most likely to apply to: people who got Royal Jordanian elite status via the ongoing hotel status match and want free seat selection etc whilst still earning Avios.

Your problem: you need to have your non-BA frequent flyer number in your booking to get free seat selection, but need to change it over at some point to your BA number in order to earn Avios – whilst still trying to get lounge access, fast track security, use of business class check-in desks etc from your non-BA status card.

Scenario 2

You want to earn status tier points in another oneworld frequent flyer programme whilst using your existing British Airways Executive Club elite card for lounge access, free seat selection etc.

Most likely to apply to: current BA status holders who cannot retain their status from 1st April in British Airways Club and are moving to another oneworld frequent flyer scheme where it is easier to earn status (probably Iberia, Royal Jordanian, Malaysia)

Your problem: you need to have your BA frequent flyer number in your booking to get free seat selection via your current status but need to change it over to your non-BA number to earn status credit with your replacement programme – whilst still trying to get lounge access, fast track security, use of business class check-in desks etc on the back of your BA status.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

In theory this shouldn’t be a problem, but it is

When Amadeus (the back-end ticketing system used by most airlines) was designed, they DID think that this could be an issue.

Your BA flight ticket data contains two fields, which by default are filled with the same number which you added when booking or via Manage My Booking:

  • FQTV: the frequent flyer number you want to use to earn miles
  • FQTS: the frequent flyer number you want to use for claiming status benefits

The problem is that your chance of finding a check-in or call centre agent who knows about FQTV and FQTS, yet alone knows how to amend your data correctly, is low.

I think that Singapore Airlines is the only carrier which allows you to enter two frequent flyer numbers for bookings.

How have you got around this?

Whilst Scenario 2 will be the most common after 1st April, as many readers start trying to earn status in a different oneworld frequent flyer programme, there are currently a lot of readers in Scenario 1 thanks to the Royal Jordanian status match.

If you’re in Scenario 1:

For people in Scenario 1, I have been saying that – at least for short haul flights – you should forget about earning Avios. Put your Royal Jordanian number in your BA booking from the start and keep it there. It will save you a lot of trouble trying to swap numbers over, and the relatively small number of Avios you will forfeit isn’t worth worrying about. You will be earning Royal Jordanian miles instead which can be redeemed on BA.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

Of course, if you are on a long haul flight then you might want your Avios. At what point do you swap your frequent flyer number for the BA one? After check in? Whilst in the lounge? Could you use fast track security or priority boarding by showing your Royal Jordanian card on your phone whilst having the BA number on your boarding pass?

Let us know in the comments.

If you’re in Scenario 2:

This is a bit trickier. You should be able to get into a BA lounge by showing your BA Gold or Silver membership card on your phone, even if your ‘no status’ Iberia / Royal Jordanian / Malaysia etc number is in your booking.

Can you get away with this at fast track security though? Or when trying to get priority boarding? Do you keep your BA number in your account until the last minute and call BA to swap it from the lounge?

Again, let us know in the comments.

How to change the frequent flyer number in your booking

This is as good a place as any to cover this. Most airlines, including BA, disable the Amadeus functionality which allows you to change your frequent flyer number via Manage My Booking. One that doesn’t is Royal Air Maroc.

You can go on the Royal Air Maroc website and pull up a BA flight booking using the 6-character booking reference. One of the options allows you to change the frequent flyer number.

Thank you for your contributions

We look forward to hearing about your experiences of swapping frequent flyer numbers in the comments. We will run a fresh article next week summarising your feedback.

Comments (136)

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  • martin says:

    Wondering the situation with air France status and crediting to virgin ?

    • pigeon says:

      Flying blue number in a AF/KL booking is notoriously sticky.

      However with Virgin bookings I’ve had luck – e.g. book cash ticket, upgrade with Virgin points, put Delta number into booking (no problem). I had to retroclaim but DL awarded the economy class miles.

  • chris tritton says:

    I have never had a problem when flying on CX or BA. I have BA Gold but seeking CX diamond. Enter BA number in booking and always change in lounge (CX lounge never a problem and also BA Glasgow),

  • Lumma says:

    Would love an article on redeeming on Royal Jordanian by the way

  • Dubious says:

    Whilst Singapore Airlines is does allow passengers to enter two frequent flyer numbers, it is not fool proof and does have some limits.

    The website and app is really designed for you to add your KrisFlyer membership number to get the onboard Wifi access (for free) when in Economy’, whilst crediting points to another airline. I think that was the original driving force being implementing the functionality.

    It does not work so well if you have StarAlliance Gold status with another airline but want to credit the points to KrisFlyer.

    I have had some check-in agents set it up corrected at check-in. Some have told me they had to wipe all the details from various parts of the booking and then re-add them. Others (at two different airports) have told me it is set correctly, but then the miles ended up going to the wrong account…

    So in summary:
    Status on SQ, but Miles to Another Programme = can do via the website/app
    Status on other carrier, but Miles to SQ = don’t put membership number in booking; do manually at check-in counter, manned by a human (not the automated machines).

  • shanghaiguizi says:

    Oh, I can positively contribute to this one.

    Over the last four years I’ve been on a journey and frequently have encountered, and found workarounds, to this very issue.

    Initially had BA Gold, but then made the switch to Qatar. As I was wanted to gain status with Qatar I wanted all OW flights to be credited to Privilege club, but until I had achieved gold in QPC needed to use my BA gold to access the lounges. In all the examples I have I never attempted to add two separate OW FF numbers to the same booking. My strategy was to add QPC number and then show my BA gold card when entering the lounge. I should note that as company policy is J above 7 hours all times I flew Qatar I was in business, so could access the Al Safwa lounge regardless. All the times I used this were for feeder flights e.g., EDI-LHR in economy on the way to Asia in J. I never flew to the states in this period.

    I achieved QPC platinum, but as I was based in Malaysia and most of my travel (~50 flights annually) were to Japan, Korea, Philippines, Singapore, and Bangalore, I switched to Malaysia. This is where I experienced the most issues. I stuck with the strategy above where I’d add the MH enrich number to the booking, and then would simply show my Qatar membership to gain access to the lounge (and when checking in). At check in a few times the check in (never at KUL, but EVERY time at Bengaluru, and a few times at Manila) lady insisted I need to add the Qatar number. The first time I did this the flight never credited to Malaysia (or Qatar) so every time this happened in future I just smiled and agreed then as soon as I was in the lounge I called Malaysia customer service and asked them to annihilate the Qatar number from the booking. This worked every time.

    I now have Malaysia enrich platinum until April next year, but in December last year got a status match to Singapore KrisFlyer Gold, and have moved all my travel to SQ.

    I do think it’s crazy the alliances haven’t developed better mechanisms to account for people who have status in multiple programs, and want to receive the benefits from one program, whilst accumulating points or status in a different program.

    When I wanted to move all travel to MH I asked for a status match and showed I was good for 60-80 flights per year, but they rejected it. That’s contrasted with SQ who responded to my status match in about a week with a match.

  • Glenn says:

    Having this issue right now- on trip with Qatar and had asked BA FFN to be added. Then used Avios to upgrade from Qatar and it then added QFFN. Have asked for it to changed, check in, live chat, and boarding passes still printing with Qatar FFN. No one can solve- I am 110 Tier from Gold and this month is critical of all months to go nuts. It has caused issues at Lounges entry in Doha and KL as I am burgundy with Qatar but Silver with BA- all painful!

    • Chrisasaurus says:

      Don’t ask them to change it – get in the phone or live chat and ask them to remove the FFN. That’s how I eventually removed my BA number from a BA flight this week. Them all of a sudden it showed the AA number I’d added in the first call.

  • Phillip says:

    My experience here is with wanting to use ITA status but credit VN flights to VS. I would add my VS number to the booking and show my ITA membership card at the priority check in desk.
    Every time, despite telling them not to change my number, they would try to do it, but because ITA was such a mess, they couldn’t add it anyway. Most times I’d get a “next time you have to add your membership number where the status is to the booking for status benefits”.

    • Charlie says:

      Different programmes within alliances have different rules. For example, Air New Zealand stipulate that if *G status benefits are used, then points should be attributed to Air New Zealand. Similarly, if you book an award redemption on Alaska metal using Alaska miles, it’s very difficult to add OWS/OWE status from another programme, and Alaska’s rules say you can’t.

  • RobH not Rob says:

    Rob, do you think Royal Air Maroc will be pressured to close this “loophole”?

    We grabbed RJ silver status natch purely for early seat selection in the next 12 months. It worked fine on a recent Maldives trip but as it was a reward flight we didn’t try to switch back to BA # after seat selection.

    • Lumma says:

      It’s not really a loophole allowing customers to do what they’re entitled to do as part of the programme rules. It actually saves BA having to take calls or time at check-in desks

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