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What are the cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions under dynamic pricing?

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Ever since Virgin Atlantic moved to ‘dynamic pricing’ for flight redemptions last year, the cost of Upper Class has been out of reach for most people.

I know that Virgin Atlantic is happy with the increase in Economy redemptions, now priced from just 6,000 Virgin Points each way.

I also know that there is disquiet about the removal of Upper Class as a realistic redemption option on most routes, especially the effect on those who are Upper Class cash flyers.

cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

I thought we should take another look at Upper Class pricing. Luckily, a HfP reader has built an online tool, vseats.io, which scrapes the Reward Seat Checker page of the Virgin Atlantic website and lets you manipulate the data. It’s really rather clever.

Because you can rank reward pricing using vseats.io, I thought I’d look at each route for a seven night trip in Upper Class.

What I wanted to know was:

  • what is the cheapest possible redemption over the next 11 months for a week-long trip?
  • and, to avoid distortion due to one-off cheap deals, what is the 50th cheapest redemption day over the next 11 months?

I thought ’50th cheapest’ was an acceptable compromise. The very cheapest dates are usually when you don’t want to travel (eg New York in January) and taking the 50th lowest priced departure date weeds out a lot of that. It’s probably comparable to off-peak Avios pricing.

Of course, you still need flexibility when you travel to take advantage of this pricing. If you are tied to school holidays, or even tied to Saturday-to-Saturday holidays, you will pay more – often a LOT more.

Not all Virgin Atlantic routes operate 365 days per year. In such cases, the 50th cheapest date will be higher up the price range.

What are the cheapest Virgin Atlantic Upper Class redemptions?

I’ve listed the routes from cheapest to priciest.

I have shown Upper Class return pricing from London Heathrow for a seven night stay, searching across the full 11 month booking window.

Because of the way the system works, we can only look for the price of one seat. Do not assume you can book a couple, and definitely not a family, at these rates.

I have included the cost of an off-peak Club World Avios redemption for comparison.

cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

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Here’s a summary of the results assuming:

  • you value an Avios and a Virgin Point at 1p, so you can blend the points and cash elements to get an overall total cost
  • you take the ’50th cheapest day’ as a fair comparison with the off-peak Avios price

Routes where Virgin Points beat Avios:

Riyadh, Bengaluru, Delhi, Mumbai, Lagos

Routes where Avios beat Virgin Points:

Toronto, New York JFK, Washington DC, Las Vegas, Dubai, Miami, Tampa, Barbados, San Francisco, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Orlando, Boston, Seattle, Antigua, Grenada, Cancun, Cape Town, Maldives, Johannesburg

I think the list above sums up the current situation pretty well. Yes, there is some value out there in Upper Class for Virgin Points, but Riyadh, Bengaluru, Lagos etc are not key holiday routes.

Let’s look at the pricing in detail.

cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

Virgin Atlantic Upper Class reward pricing in detail

Here are the full results from vseats.io, listed in order of the cheapest Upper Class seat anywhere in the schedule:

Riyadh

  • Cheapest departure day – 46,000 Virgin Points + £578
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 49,000 Virgin Points + £578
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Bengaluru

  • Cheapest departure day – 46,000 Virgin Points + £568
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 64,000 Virgin Points + £568
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Delhi

  • Cheapest departure day – 46,000 Virgin Points + £566
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 116,000 Virgin Points + £754
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Mumbai

  • Cheapest departure day – 51,000 Virgin Points + £563
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 77,500 Virgin Points + £813
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Toronto

  • Cheapest departure day – 58,000 Virgin Points + £683
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 138,000 Virgin Points + £1,061
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

New York JFK

  • Cheapest departure day – 68,000 Virgin Points + £781
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 123,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Lagos

  • Cheapest departure day – 70,000 Virgin Points + £659
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 81,000 Virgin Points + £694
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Washington DC

  • Cheapest departure day – 70,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 134,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Montego Bay

  • Cheapest departure day – 80,000 Virgin Points + £692
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 270,000 Virgin Points + £878
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – n/a

Las Vegas

  • Cheapest departure day – 91,000 Virgin Points + £693
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 197,500 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Dubai

  • Cheapest departure day – 100,000 Virgin Points + £819
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 217,000 Virgin Points + £819
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Miami

  • Cheapest departure day – 101,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 176,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Tampa

  • Cheapest departure day – 105,500 Virgin Points + £956
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 248,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Barbados

  • Cheapest departure day – 107,000 Virgin Points + £802
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 282,500 Virgin Points + £864
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

San Francisco

  • Cheapest departure day – 121,500 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 270,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Atlanta

  • Cheapest departure day – 129,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 207,500 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

St Vincent and the Grenadines

  • Cheapest departure day – 130,000 Virgin Points + £705
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 440,000 Virgin Points + £829
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – n/a

Los Angeles

  • Cheapest departure day – 134,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 240,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Orlando

  • Cheapest departure day – 135,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 271,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Boston

  • Cheapest departure day – 147,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 165,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Seattle

  • Cheapest departure day – 148,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 240,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Antigua

  • Cheapest departure day – 152,000 Virgin Points +£847
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 530,000 Virgin Points + £847
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Grenada

  • Cheapest departure day – 187,500 Virgin Points + £828
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 525,000 Virgin Points + £828
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Cancun

  • Cheapest departure day – 275,000 Virgin Points + £872
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 385,000 Virgin Points + £872
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Cape Town

  • Cheapest departure day – 275,000 Virgin Points + £823
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 435,000 Virgin Points + £823
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Maldives

  • Cheapest departure day – 355,000 Virgin Points + £969
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 545,000 Virgin Points + £969
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Johannesburg

  • Cheapest departure day – 400,000 Virgin Points + £823
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 460,000 Virgin Points + £823
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Comments (111)

  • Chris says:

    Counterpoint on New York not being somewhere you want to go in January… I mean, I get it. But as someone with a few friends there to catch up with, many favourite spots there, it’s my go to (albeit one of two or three trips a year). Decent Marriotts in prime areas are regularly sub $100 and upgrades for Titanium are easily available. I’ve never found a gallery or museum that wasn’t open, and the restaurants are still good…

    Buy yourself a good scarf and embrace it! (And again, I do get the point. Not being a troll but think there’s a strong argument for it being a great time of year to visit for a solo traveler in particular.)

    • JDB says:

      January (or other off peak months) can be a great time to visit. We went to New York in Jan many moons ago when it snowed which was very special and we still have some great 80% off Christmas tree decorations from Bergdorf. Very good month to visit Cannes, Nice, Venice etc. as well.

    • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

      I’ve dones several January and February stayes and love it at time of year.

      Less tourists means more room in the museums etc but the hotels are a lot cheaper than peak tourist time.

      Sure it can be cold and wet so that’s why you pack some extra warm layers and your big coat!

    • Alan says:

      Agree, I really enjoyed NYC in Jan 👍

    • SammyJ says:

      100%. Any time we fly to NY we spend a day or two in the city and then hire a car and get out of there – winter is beautiful if there’s snow upstate or over in many parts of Pennsylvania, best time to go. Cheaper and less busy too in the city.

  • PeterK says:

    Add to this that the Virgin credit card voucher has a maximum value, for a couple trying to redeem in upper class it’s significantly more expensive than a BA Club redemption on most routes.

  • Erico1875 says:

    The Indian routes are interesting. so cheap. I haven’t really had any interest in Virgin, always focusing on Avios I’m likely to be going to Goa in Nov. It doesn’t matter which Virgin Route, BLR, DEL or BOM, as Indigo will get us to our final destination cheap from any of then
    My worry is, does this pricing hint at which rates are likely to be chopped?

    • BBbetter says:

      BLR is most likely the first to be cut, with 3 airlines fighting it out.
      Air India hoovers up the cost conscious while BA has been a permanent fixture for years, so corporates prefer that. VS currently relying on techies spending on premium cabins and connecting via DL.

  • OnTheRun says:

    Huge thanks to HfP reader Matlo for building vseats.io

    Excellent website!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

    • Erico1875 says:

      Yes. Thanks Mario. a genius
      HFP has been launch pad for many innovative tools

  • Neil says:

    What a great website!!! And an insightful article…

    Surely with this data a new average value of a VA point can be calculated?

    • Ken says:

      No one wants to acknowledge that for the majority of people they aren’t worth 1p anymore.

      And we still have to pretend it’s easy to get outsize value on hotel schemes that are now dynamic.

      • Rob says:

        The majority of people don’t get 1p, they get 0.5p via Virgin Red. You are smarter though.

      • HampshireHog says:

        Especially true and largely not remarked on is the dynamic pricing in hotel schemes, previously I often bought hotel points in the frequent offers, only rarely would this make sense now.

        • Rob says:

          Hyatt is 100% still worth buying each year. For the rest I agree that you should only do it if you’ve identified something you want to book and there is value. That said, some of the Hilton SLH redemptions still offer exceptional value.

      • Throwawayname says:

        They’re still worth 1p all day long when it comes to AF redemptions. How long that’ll last is another question, however, and that’s why I won’t let my balance stray into six figures.

  • letBAgonesbe says:

    I booked recently London to Riyadh to go on holiday in November and was surprised how cheap the redemption was.
    I paid 50,000 points only (+taxes) in Upper Class return.

  • Robert says:

    JNB from LHR – 18th Nov out 3rd Dec return – 1180000 points plus £1645.64 – quite unbelievable.

    • Rob says:

      I have 4 x Cape Town for the week before Christmas in Upper Class which I think were 135k x 4 under the old system. You don’t want to know what it would be now ….

      (Admittedly this was a fluke. I booked for April when VS added the extra 4 weeks of flights and when VS cancelled those extra 4 weeks of flights, I was able to rebook for super-super-peak dates with no problem. Even better, we were originally travelling over 2 days – I had the 2 guaranteed UC seats on each day – but now we’re together.)

  • filipino_chino says:

    I have not learnt the finer details of virgin points under dynamic pricing, however i did learn that you should not always use the reward seat finder as the main virgin website is updated 24 hours before the reward seat finder.

    I booked a return trip to MLE in Econ for a good price, but i am still learning as you can spot some good deals, but you need to be really flexible which is difficult with term time :/

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