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What are the cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions under dynamic pricing?

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Ever since Virgin Atlantic moved to ‘dynamic pricing’ for flight redemptions last year, the cost of Upper Class has been out of reach for most people.

I know that Virgin Atlantic is happy with the increase in Economy redemptions, now priced from just 6,000 Virgin Points each way.

I also know that there is disquiet about the removal of Upper Class as a realistic redemption option on most routes, especially the effect on those who are Upper Class cash flyers.

cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

I thought we should take another look at Upper Class pricing. Luckily, a HfP reader has built an online tool, vseats.io, which scrapes the Reward Seat Checker page of the Virgin Atlantic website and lets you manipulate the data. It’s really rather clever.

Because you can rank reward pricing using vseats.io, I thought I’d look at each route for a seven night trip in Upper Class.

What I wanted to know was:

  • what is the cheapest possible redemption over the next 11 months for a week-long trip?
  • and, to avoid distortion due to one-off cheap deals, what is the 50th cheapest redemption day over the next 11 months?

I thought ’50th cheapest’ was an acceptable compromise. The very cheapest dates are usually when you don’t want to travel (eg New York in January) and taking the 50th lowest priced departure date weeds out a lot of that. It’s probably comparable to off-peak Avios pricing.

Of course, you still need flexibility when you travel to take advantage of this pricing. If you are tied to school holidays, or even tied to Saturday-to-Saturday holidays, you will pay more – often a LOT more.

Not all Virgin Atlantic routes operate 365 days per year. In such cases, the 50th cheapest date will be higher up the price range.

What are the cheapest Virgin Atlantic Upper Class redemptions?

I’ve listed the routes from cheapest to priciest.

I have shown Upper Class return pricing from London Heathrow for a seven night stay, searching across the full 11 month booking window.

Because of the way the system works, we can only look for the price of one seat. Do not assume you can book a couple, and definitely not a family, at these rates.

I have included the cost of an off-peak Club World Avios redemption for comparison.

cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

The problem with Virgin Flying Club, in a nutshell

Here’s a summary of the results assuming:

  • you value an Avios and a Virgin Point at 1p, so you can blend the points and cash elements to get an overall total cost
  • you take the ’50th cheapest day’ as a fair comparison with the off-peak Avios price

Routes where Virgin Points beat Avios:

Riyadh, Bengaluru, Delhi, Mumbai, Lagos

Routes where Avios beat Virgin Points:

Toronto, New York JFK, Washington DC, Las Vegas, Dubai, Miami, Tampa, Barbados, San Francisco, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Orlando, Boston, Seattle, Antigua, Grenada, Cancun, Cape Town, Maldives, Johannesburg

I think the list above sums up the current situation pretty well. Yes, there is some value out there in Upper Class for Virgin Points, but Riyadh, Bengaluru, Lagos etc are not key holiday routes.

Let’s look at the pricing in detail.

cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

Virgin Atlantic Upper Class reward pricing in detail

Here are the full results from vseats.io, listed in order of the cheapest Upper Class seat anywhere in the schedule:

Riyadh

  • Cheapest departure day – 46,000 Virgin Points + £578
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 49,000 Virgin Points + £578
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Bengaluru

  • Cheapest departure day – 46,000 Virgin Points + £568
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 64,000 Virgin Points + £568
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Delhi

  • Cheapest departure day – 46,000 Virgin Points + £566
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 116,000 Virgin Points + £754
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Mumbai

  • Cheapest departure day – 51,000 Virgin Points + £563
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 77,500 Virgin Points + £813
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Toronto

  • Cheapest departure day – 58,000 Virgin Points + £683
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 138,000 Virgin Points + £1,061
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

New York JFK

  • Cheapest departure day – 68,000 Virgin Points + £781
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 123,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Lagos

  • Cheapest departure day – 70,000 Virgin Points + £659
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 81,000 Virgin Points + £694
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Washington DC

  • Cheapest departure day – 70,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 134,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Montego Bay

  • Cheapest departure day – 80,000 Virgin Points + £692
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 270,000 Virgin Points + £878
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – n/a

Las Vegas

  • Cheapest departure day – 91,000 Virgin Points + £693
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 197,500 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Dubai

  • Cheapest departure day – 100,000 Virgin Points + £819
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 217,000 Virgin Points + £819
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Miami

  • Cheapest departure day – 101,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 176,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Tampa

  • Cheapest departure day – 105,500 Virgin Points + £956
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 248,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Barbados

  • Cheapest departure day – 107,000 Virgin Points + £802
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 282,500 Virgin Points + £864
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

San Francisco

  • Cheapest departure day – 121,500 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 270,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Atlanta

  • Cheapest departure day – 129,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 207,500 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

St Vincent and the Grenadines

  • Cheapest departure day – 130,000 Virgin Points + £705
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 440,000 Virgin Points + £829
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – n/a

Los Angeles

  • Cheapest departure day – 134,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 240,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Orlando

  • Cheapest departure day – 135,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 271,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Boston

  • Cheapest departure day – 147,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 165,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 160,000 Avios + £375

Seattle

  • Cheapest departure day – 148,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 240,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Antigua

  • Cheapest departure day – 152,000 Virgin Points +£847
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 530,000 Virgin Points + £847
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Grenada

  • Cheapest departure day – 187,500 Virgin Points + £828
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 525,000 Virgin Points + £828
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Cancun

  • Cheapest departure day – 275,000 Virgin Points + £872
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 385,000 Virgin Points + £872
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Cape Town

  • Cheapest departure day – 275,000 Virgin Points + £823
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 435,000 Virgin Points + £823
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Maldives

  • Cheapest departure day – 355,000 Virgin Points + £969
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 545,000 Virgin Points + £969
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Johannesburg

  • Cheapest departure day – 400,000 Virgin Points + £823
  • 50th cheapest departure day – 460,000 Virgin Points + £823
  • British Airways off-peak Avios cost – 180,000 Avios + £475

Comments (111)

  • Jamie1797 says:

    I think if you are travelling to the US, Canada or some parts of Asia/the Middle east you are ok or potentially better off, outside of that the changes have definitely cost significantly more for travellers to other routes.

    As I predominantly travel to Africa and Europe, i’ll be going over to Amex/Avios when I’m eligible for a signup bonus again. The points cost of travelling to Johannesburg in any cabin has on average at least doubled with dynamic pricing and thus forced me out. Whilst we are savvy collectors, even with reward vouchers the current number of points required for a round trip for 2 just isn’t achievable for most.

  • KayGee says:

    Have booked these ‘cheap’ India flights quite a few times – always been the poor Upper Class seats vs ClubSuite. But Clubhouse beats Galleries (dont have BA status) so maybe it is not a bad tradeoff (and you get Tier points). It is roughly the same cost even if you use the Amex or Barc voucher. Flights have always been full as it seems popular with the Indian diaspora across the pond connecting with Delta/VS.

    • BBbetter says:

      Yep, a lot of them are delta / Amex credit card holders and coupled with massive salaries in tech, the J cabins are have decent demand making the routes viable.

    • Michael Jennings says:

      I’ve never been into the Clubhouse, so I will probably book one of these cheap redemptions to India to do that.

      • paul says:

        I wouldn’t book any flight just to access Virgin Clubhouse – it’s a slightly fancier lounge.

        But it still can get packed with not enough seating, the food servers are often miserable (though the service staff are pleasant), you can only physically drink so much alcohol lol

        Yes, it’s a nice lounge but no more than that.

  • Mike says:

    When is the OW promised article coming folks?
    Getting onto half a year now!

  • Paul (another one) says:

    Great tool. Thanks to the creator. Very helpful commentary too.

    I have a small stash of VR points but have largely stopped collecting them because, as this report says, you can’t know a price until you book; and the delta between the cheapest at the 50yh is astonishing. Also the Co-pay – ouch.

    I’m sure I’ll find somewhere to go at some point but VR/VS has gone from highly recommended to don’t bother and this data backs that up.

  • Peter Feeney says:

    This may seem a silly question but……
    Taking the Miami route, why are BA taxes so much less than the VS equivalent?

    • Rob says:

      BA’s figure ISN’T the actual ‘taxes and charges’. BA moved to a capped figure a few years ago and what you pay is fixed regardless of the actual amount.

      Virgin’s figure ISN’T the actual ‘taxes and charges’ either. It includes a fat ‘carrier surcharge’ which is money which Virgin keeps. Of the £1,043 I suspect £600 is ‘surcharge’.

  • Jennywren says:

    As I found recently not only is the dynamic pricing significantly more expensive now even at off peak times, but it can effectively cost much more at a penny a point value than paying cash*- – so no reward at all.
    Also I have had the points value increase massively while trying to complete a reward voucher booking over the phone and they would not honour the value at the start of the conversation. Really disappointed in VA now.

  • KimK says:

    All that faff to end up in a coffin!

    • GM says:

      That sounds like it could apply to a lot of what we do in life 😉
      (but definitely agree when it’s those 787/300-300 ones)

  • BOB says:

    Just bought LA to London in November. Buying miles + tax is cheaper than economy light and you get check in luggage and (semi) flexible cancellation

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