Rollback of 100ml liquid restrictions: you can now take two litres at some airports

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• Lumma says:

  12 Jul12 July 11:19

  My issue with these new scanners and leaving everything in, is that I’m often having my bag taken for secondary checks. I rarely, if ever had this happen with liquids and laptops out.

  • Antony Savvas says:

    12 Jul12 July 11:49

    On a trip to Las Vegas recently, my ‘dense’ notebook was pulled by the new scanners in Newcastle while packed in my small suitcase. On travelling back from Vegas, the same notebook packed the same way was not pulled. On landing at Heathrow, and then going through security transfer to Newcastle, that little dense book was pulled yet again. Let’s see what happens on my return trip to London next week…

    • Barrel for Scraping says:

      12 Jul12 July 13:08

      In Newcastle if they see anything dense in the scanner that have to check you’re not trying to smuggle a mackem through!

  • MKB says:

    12 Jul12 July 11:53

    Same for me.

    When I was following instructions to leave everything in my bag using the new scanners, the bag was sent for secondary screening every time, often with lengthy waits. Happened at least half a dozen times.

    I now ignore the instructions and remove my laptop from my trolley bag. No more secondary checks.

    The other issue causing me problems was my wallet in my jacket pocket. Too many cards packed tightly together, I was told. So that goes through in a separate tray now, and has stopped any further rejections by the new scanners.

    I never had any of these issues with the old scanners.

    • Ziggy says:

      12 Jul12 July 12:32

      Books and reams of paper almost always seem to trigger the new scanners (I had the pleasure of secondary screening at T5 First Wing recently thanks to a stack of books in my carry on).

      The reason this is happening (according to one of the screeners) is because densely packed paper can appear like a lot of money bundled up and they’re trying to catch money launderers. I’m not sure how true this is (I have doubts because it doesn’t explain why this wasn’t an issue in the older scanners which can “see” less than the new scanners), but that’s what I was told.

      • Lady London says:

        12 Jul12 July 15:21

        My nest of cables and computer accessories still gets pulled. I now put them out on the tray to save time and continued doing this with liquids as well.

      • John says:

        12 Jul12 July 23:05

        I carry large amounts of cash on every trip and it has not triggered a secondary with the old or new style scanners.

• Nick says:

  12 Jul12 July 11:36

  Bag was selected for a laptop swab and wait was over 20 minutes! Nothing else was checked. Suspect this would not have happened when you had to empty it out of your bag! Security personnel were also very poor working extremely slowly!

• Stuart says:

  12 Jul12 July 11:52

  Departed from Southampton on Thursday and the security area refurbishment looks to be mostly done with new scanners being used, so no removal of any items from my bag. I say ‘mostly’, as the walls still looked a bit like temporary boardings.

• Ben says:

  12 Jul12 July 12:50

  My Smiths shares, which owns Smiths Detection, are doing well. Up 40% since January.

• Dude. says:

  12 Jul12 July 14:39

  Thank you dundj for clearing this up.

  Seems to have hit a little nerve with our esteemed host.

  • dundj says:

    12 Jul12 July 15:36

    For me, it is understandable why someone may be perplexed by this, if you did not know the rationale behind it. Personally, I have been mildly surprised at the timing as it was not expected until after the Summer holiday period, and I was fully aware of the majority of the actions being taken, if not necessarily the reasons behind it. So, if I can explain in vague terms the details behind what has been taking place, then I’ll do my best.

    • Dude. says:

      12 Jul12 July 17:39

      Thank you, appreciated.

  • Rhys says:

    12 Jul12 July 18:34

    The fact that this needed to be cleared up by someone in the comments of an aviation website I think proves our point. The rollout has not been clearly communicated at all, including for those of us following on!

    • dundj says:

      12 Jul12 July 21:32

      Fully agreed, and I would like to be less vague as well. If I knew the complete ins and outs of it, I’d likely not have said a word today.

      For me it’s peoples’ minor annoyance at a website which writes about aviation in the UK when it matters, after the points angles, aren’t aware as to why I gave out the information around what I am fully aware of to help understand your perplexity of the situation.

• ADS says:

  12 Jul12 July 15:46

  I had a banana trigger a CT machine this week – again!

  remember that integral to the re-relaxed rules is:

  “If you are carrying metallic or double-walled containers (including vacuum flasks, thermos flasks and metallic water bottles), please ensure the container is empty prior to the security checkpoint”

• John says:

  12 Jul12 July 16:55

  At EDI “fast track” security four weeks ago the 2L allowance/leaving liquids and electronics in bag was in effect but the conveyor belt on the new scanners (very prominently branded as Made in Italy) was jammed and not returning any empty trays to the start. Massive queue waiting for the many many staff to bother to manually carry a few empty trays to the start. Ended up walking off to another machine and bringing back an empty tray from there. Then a massive queue after the scanner waiting for bags which had been pulled to squeeze past the overflowing queue of bags which had been pulled. Dreadful designs. No queues at the non-fast track scanners.

  At GLA last week the “fast track” scanners were the old fashioned type, all of the non-“fast track” ones seemed to have been upgraded to the same new model as EDI (don’t think the relaxations were in effect there yet though).

• John says:

  12 Jul12 July 16:57

  ^ “…bags which had HAD NOT been pulled to squeeze past the overflowing queue of bags which had been pulled…”

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