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Well heaven forbid there should be any pandering to the disabled, elderly, frail or just small!
It’s amusing how out of touch he is with normal people.
Well heaven forbid there should be any pandering to the disabled, elderly, frail or just small!
It’s amusing how out of touch he is with normal people.
Well, I kind of assumed you too would support that entitled minority of people who travel with excessive amounts of luggage they can’t manage to the detriment and danger of others. Responsible people from the categories cited are generally sensible and considerate enough not to travel with cabin bags they can’t manage themselves; they check them in like us and all the other ‘normal’ people you describe. You can’t be sure there is going to be some stranger to help and you don’t know the person you expect to help might have issues themselves. Imposing on them isn’t reasonable.
Will BA follow EasyJet’s lead, and give bonuses to those spotting oversize bags?!
I may be missing something. What is the point of boarding early if you don’t have cabin baggage and in economy? Board last if you can. Always.
Now that AF/KL are starting to charge for cabin bags on the cheapest fare class, I’d expect BA following suit to be a given (pending potential EU intervention).
One would think that BA would want to retain something that sets them apart from a LCC, but apparently not 😕
Wonder how big the still-free/underseat bag will be?
OH is flying with AerLingus today, and theirs is…35 cms! So
marginally bigger than a MacbookAir.Will BA follow EasyJet’s lead, and give bonuses to those spotting oversize bags?!
If that’s what it takes to reduce or eradicate the excess bag(s) problem, then that would be a good thing!
Everyone is welcoming the potential EU cabin bag change but it may lead to those airlines like BA with bigger allowances to reduce theirs for the convenience of passengers not to have to worry about all the difference in sizes allowed. Plus lost income from bag charges will be recouped in fares, so nothing to celebrate.
I heard a rumour today from a BA staff member that they’re going to start charging for large cabin bags soon. Anyone else heard this?
Most staff are not aware of management decisions.
It can only be a good thing if BA starts to charge for the ludicrous quantity and size of bags people bring on board which is highly anti social and selfish as it clogs up security, creates unnecessary risks on escalators and greatly delays boarding. People complain about delays but fail to see their contribution to that problem at slot congested airports.
BA should of course always have been much stricter but they (sort of rightly) don’t want the confrontation and some people are staggeringly aggressive about having bags taken off them.
The current situation whereby BA asks nicely for Groups 4 and 5 to check in bags at the gate for no cost and go ahead of Group 0 is also bonkers.
Had a bit of a Weston of a holiday a couple of years back. Trip and fall, followed by a nasty car accident. Was very bruised and tender, the icing on the cake was a woman airside at Miami with a full sized hold bag she lost control of, tumbled down the escalator and I defended myself instinctively with an already very tender shoulder and arm. It didn’t even apologise.
Well heaven forbid there should be any pandering to the disabled, elderly, frail or just small!
And of course those with their teenage children and those faking it for assistance so as to queue jump, with their eBay sourced Sunflower lanyards. But then I’m just a nasty cynic.
Plus lost income from bag charges will be recouped in fares, so nothing to celebrate.
Surprisingly, AF/KL’s cabin-luggage-less fares have not come down, whilst the ones that do include a cabin bag have gone up. Who’d have thought, eh?!
Even with the larger overhead bins it still takes people an age to stow that bag and an excessively large amount of baggage still causes delay and disruption.
Two flights on Neos with the new bins in the last week – zero space issues or delays. Only issue is people don’t generally realise what to do and need to be given a nudge – if all the planes had them, this too would go away.
It would be simple i you were only allowed one bag
The trouble is handbags.
My handbags are always stowed under the seat in front, due to having CC’s. cash a few meds in them. Plenty of room. I guess it doesn’t count as ‘designer’ on this forum as it is only a Radley.
Well heaven forbid there should be any pandering to the disabled, elderly, frail or just small!
At 5ft tall I have already got stowage problems, fortunately I currently still have OH with who is a lofty 5’7′ heaven only knows what I will do if I end up being a solo traveler.
I sure Rob mentioned that charging for cabin bags was in the pipeline.
On a recent full flight to Greece which for some seems to be a cabin bags only option, they were stowed so quickly the Captain congratulated us on this told us we were on time, and then immediately said however ATC has given us an hour restriction. This meant loads of people got up and re-visited their luggage in the overhead bins.
Admittedly, I only fly on BA 6 to 8 times a year. But I take my BA maximum size Samsonite carry on bag with me. I’ve never dropped it on anyone’s head, thrown it at anyone causing injury, or failed to store it in an overhead bin just as quickly as I would with a small bag.
So I really do find some of these comment bemusing!
If BA could just enforce their current hand baggage policy, there wouldn’t be so many issues. Whilst the large bag allowance is generous, you often see people with cases far larger than this, or with 3 or more bags, and absolutely nothing is done to stop this. Also, once on board, BA cabin crew are generally not very pro-active in managing the overhead lockers. Plenty of people put up coats and small bags and again, nothing is done. Some passengers are also very stupid and will put in a case sideways without a care in the world. If you get on an Easyjet flight, the crew are very good at ensuring that only large bags go in the lockers or re-organising the bags to maximise space.
And, as others have pointed out, if they fitted the larger toast rack lockers, there wouldn’t be a problem at all – but there’s not much financial incentive for them to do that.
I heard a rumour today from a BA staff member that they’re going to start charging for large cabin bags soon. Anyone else heard this?
The idea that BA staff have any clue what is going on is risible.
The BA baggage policy is the last saving grace of this airline. If it’s removed they’ll become almost indistinguishable to low costs… if that’s the aim, I hope ticket prices come down to reflect this. If that’s not the aim, good luck to them.
How about BA return to offering everyone hold luggage as standard and return from the race to the bottom with budget airlines. The scrum on boarding in short haul has been akin to the likes of Easyjet and Ryanair for some years now and makes BA much less attractive.
I do have some sympathy when it comes to price comparison sites, though – as people really are not that clued-up and don’t realise that airlines with free cabin luggage can often be cheaper than your EZs/FRs/W6s who don’t…
The BA baggage policy is the last saving grace of this airline. If it’s removed they’ll become almost indistinguishable to low costs… if that’s the aim, I hope ticket prices come down to reflect this. If that’s not the aim, good luck to them.
Well, they are slightly more expensive than most LC (before you add luggage etc.) so if they do not offer hand luggage they will simply be more expensive for no reason. Why would one then chase status if being on Group 1-2-3 yields no advantage.
If BA has issues with people abusing the hand luggage policy they can start by trying to remind them not to and then move to stop them before simply shooting themselves in the foot by removing it entirely for everyone else.
Admittedly, I only fly on BA 6 to 8 times a year. But I take my BA maximum size Samsonite carry on bag with me. I’ve never dropped it on anyone’s head, thrown it at anyone causing injury, or failed to store it in an overhead bin just as quickly as I would with a small bag.
So I really do find some of these comment bemusing!
It sounds as though you must be in the 80% of unselfish customers. It’s the 20% of regular offenders and some unseasoned travellers that cause the trouble in the airport and on board and we will thus all be expected to suffer.
Plenty of people put up coats and small bags and again, nothing is done
Yes. I put my coat and small bag in the overhead locker. If everyone only took a coat and small bag into the cabin, there would not be a problem. I’m not putting my coat on the floor so you can stow a large bag.
Plenty of people put up coats and small bags and again, nothing is done
Yes. I put my coat and small bag in the overhead locker. If everyone only took a coat and small bag into the cabin, there would not be a problem. I’m not putting my coat on the floor so you can stow a large bag.
Surely your coat can neatly fit over a cabin bag?
Or on the coat hook?
Or your lap?
Or on the coat hook?
Or your lap?
Not sure you can keep your jacket on your lap. A couple of recent flights passengers sitting near to us were told jackets had to be put on, under seat or in locker. Assume they already had bags under seats as the jackets were put in overhead locker.
Now that AF/KL are starting to charge for cabin bags on the cheapest fare class, I’d expect BA following suit to be a given (pending potential EU intervention).
The AFKL move is mainly streamlining due to integration of SAS. SAS GO Lite fares are personal-item-only. Technically this also applied to SAS EB members too, although they had extra hold luggage allowances. In practice nobody in the first boarding groups were forced to part with their hand luggage. After the merger, the free hand luggage was extended to all.
Now they seem to be going back on it, and I’m pretty sure it will soon be the standard within the whole group, regarding the lowest fare class. I’m not really sure if I’m for or against.
Since the vast majority of my flights with them are cash bookings, I will not be booking economy last minutes via OTA’s anymore, since you can often not see the fare class (and you lose out on XP with the lowest fare class too. Funny BA has no problem with this, as they made TP’s earned on these shorthaul routes worthless anyway). That’s a win for AFKL I guess, as most FF’s will be giving up that purchase route.
As long as the AF complementary bubbly at pursers’ discretion in economy isn’t axed, I’m fine with bringing my own Recaro seat from home if so requested. And KL can’t do anything wrong IMHO. Mediocre catering is made up by stellar service. (They serve Freixenet and that swill is virtually undrinkable anyway.)
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