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I’m just imagining the conversations, if/when the EU law changes. There will still not be enough room.
Once the lockers are full, what do you say to someone who says I’ve a legal right to bring this on board
The EU rules aren’t about the cabin bags being guaranteed on board, they are about them being free. If the cabin is full, it goes in the hold, but for free.
I’m just imagining the conversations, if/when the EU law changes. There will still not be enough room.
Once the lockers are full, what do you say to someone who says I’ve a legal right to bring this on board
The EU rules aren’t about the cabin bags being guaranteed on board, they are about them being free. If the cabin is full, it goes in the hold, but for free.
Very good point! The EU presumably couldn’t mandate the carriage of bags in the cabin as it might conflict with safety regulations.
I understand that it free not guaranteed, but will everyone. I’m pretty sure not.
I hope if BA and other non LCCs adopt smaller cabin bag sizes they still allow CE the old larger size .
I already pay BA to take my luggage on board – it’s part of the premium above the LCCs’ prices, especially if I fly CE to “guarantee” space on busy/commuter routes. When I can’t take my cabin bag on board I will stop flying short-haul weekends away.
BTW I’ve not seen a problem on airlines with the new “bigger” bins when bags can be stored vertically.
Not travelling because the hand baggage is unbundled seems a bit… weird.
I do have to say… When you’re on a flight to somewhere like FNC with lots of cruise passengers who have free checked luggage… The boarding process is a dream and we were good to go, doors closed, on both the outbound and inbound with 15mins spare before the departure time.
I would defo be much more open to checking bags if BA had a 20-Minute Bag Guarantee like DL, for instance.
Personally I try to put luggage in the hold only because I really hate carting cases around the airport.
This thread reminds me of (now elderly) friends who were fortunate and privileged to fly back in the 80s and 90s from Europe to LatAm and I seem to recall them saying that the overhead compartments were for where one would stow one’s hat during flight! I think the French word for the compartment translates like something to do with hat-storage.
How times change..
My worst experience recently was with Ryanair as there is a specific fare class for carry-on. And every compartment packed to the rafters with cabin crew aggressively marshalling – such nonsense.
One thing about club suite , you get a massive locker each , and BA are very relaxed about cabin bags.
I know some reviews say it looks nicer without central lockers on other airlines, but I go for practically e very time
Personally I try to put luggage in the hold only because I really hate carting cases around the airport.
This thread reminds me of (now elderly) friends who were fortunate and privileged to fly back in the 80s and 90s from Europe to LatAm and I seem to recall them saying that the overhead compartments were for where one would stow one’s hat during flight! I think the French word for the compartment translates like something to do with hat-storage.
How times change..
My worst experience recently was with Ryanair as there is a specific fare class for carry-on. And every compartment packed to the rafters with cabin crew aggressively marshalling – such nonsense.
I flew a lot from late 70s on , it wasn’t like the pictures you see of everyone in suits and ties. That had disappeared, even in the newly invented business class, was more like premium economy. This was the first generation even before the cradle seat. By then lots of cabin bags as everyone wanted to be as quick as possible and avoided hold luggage.
Until recently checked baggage on BA short haul worked out at a mere £9 per sector over the cost of an HBO fare if booked as a return. There was a clear incentive to buy this if you were in any way tempted to take a suitcase; it was nearly always cheaper than doing the same with an LCC, although the overall fare was rarely cheaper, still, it felt like you’re getting a bit of a bargain adding a suitcase for under a tenner. These charges have now doubled, encouraging people down the HBO route if they think they can squeeze what they need into the hand luggage allowance. Obviously this aggravates problems with cabin stowage space with more folks going for the significantly cheaper fare. It strikes me as a manufactured problem as previously I seldom witnessed issues with cabin space running out; a sufficient percentage of travellers had checked bags in the hold with no need to max out their hand luggage leaving enough space for the HBO crowd. Only on completely full flights to typical ‘weekend break’ destinations were calls made to check in hand luggage. On those flights even if checked bags were free most passengers would stick with hand luggage only.
I’m in the camp that if BA reduces the free hand baggage allowance while at the same time having made checked bags so much more expensive, they’re stipping away the last incentive to fly BA over an LCC, assuming someone doesn’t have elite status.
…I’m in the camp that if BA reduces the free hand baggage allowance while at the same time having made checked bags so much more expensive, they’re stipping away the last incentive to fly BA over an LCC, assuming someone doesn’t have elite status.
If you fly to/from Heathrow, it might be HAL making your checked bags more expensive, with BA adding a bit of a mark up.
HAL has many baggage improvement projects costing buckets of GBP, it has to try a bit to get some of that dosh back from passengers.I don’t know how HAL charges airlines for hold bags.
If it’s per bag , then it’s in airlines interest to discourage hold bags.
If it reflects costs, ie most is a fixed cost to service a plane hold bags irrespective of number of bags, then they should encourage hold bags.
Howver If hold luggage is a fixed cost per plane. Perhaps there is a business opportunity, fit the new big lockers, have a pure cabin bag only flight , use hold for purely more lucrative cargo. Which must be cheaper to load using prefilled containers. Think of the uproar.
Not travelling because the hand baggage is unbundled seems a bit… weird.
I didn’t say that – I’ll still pay to take cabin baggage if required, but if I have to check bags then a 40 min wait each way for bags really eats into a weekend away.
If BA want to be a LCC they need to start with LCC fares 😉
If you fly to/from Heathrow, it might be HAL making your checked bags more expensive, with BA adding a bit of a mark up.
HAL has many baggage improvement projects costing buckets of GBP, it has to try a bit to get some of that dosh back from passengers.Entirely possible but BA doesn’t operate in a vacuum and people compare the cost of flights with the competition with/without checked luggage. Furthermore, if they make checked bags more expensive (either arising from an arbitrary money grab or because their operating costs have increased to handle checked bags), they’ll encourage more HBO passengers. If too many people become HBO they become overwhelmed with hand luggage on board and need to seek to ration this, the most logical solution being to charge for larger items. At that point the passenger experience becomes exactly the same as an LCC with whom they cannot possibly hope to compete on cost, and, increasingly on the overall efficiency of the experience.
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