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Hi, bit of complex one but hoping someone can help!
My husband has 2 companion vouchers in his name
1x premium Amex (issued 3rd sep 2024)
1x normal blue Amex (issued 15th Aug 2025)We want to book 4x return to Heraklion from Gatwick for next August for 2 adults and 2 children. All of us are in the BA family:household system and we have booked using avios and companion vouchers for all of us before.
However, I have just realised you can only use 2 vouchers if they are both from the same card!!! Ours are not.
Initially, I thought we would get 50% off the total avios price for the round trip, taking it from 122000 down to 61000. However, I can’t now do this as I can’t use 2 different vouchers at the same time.
When I go to look at one way for all 4 of us using one voucher, the avios is 47000. I could use the other voucher to then make a separate booking for the return for 4 of us for another 47000. This would total 94000 avios, 32000 more than if I was able to use 2 vouchers in one go and book the outbound and Inbound at the same time.
Am I missing something?? Am I doing something wrong? How can I not get 4 tickets, in 2 separate bookings for inbound and outbound, using 1 companion voucher per booking for 62000. Why is it 94000?
I’ve even tried doing 1 ad and 1 ch return using 1 voucher (totalling 30500 avios) but I can’t then do this for me and the other child as the companion vouchers are not in my name.
Please can someone help?!?! This is testing my brain power!!!
Hi, bit of complex one but hoping someone can help!
…I’ve replied on your other thread.
A couple of questions just occurred to me regarding the recent refusal to allow an origin open jaw if the mileages put one flight into a different zone. So ex Madrid and returning to London not now allowed on longer South American flights.
First, the zones don’t exist in the public domain or a pricing chart so it’s a peculiar policy where we are in theory in the dark other than the amount of avios required assuming both flights are peak or off peak.
Second, if I want to fly say Madrid to Tokyo and return say Hong Kong/Shanghai to London what zone calculation applies between mixing IB and BA on a double open jaw? Also the mix of cash and avios differing on each leg has been an issue recently too!@HampshireHog – I think Iberia does publish table, but if not HfP does it for you and it’s quite a simple table and easy to extrapolate the info.
More complicated is how BA applies the rules for Iberia and here it’s either rather nuanced or erratic.
With the mileages, you need to look at TPM as as well theoretical distances as BA sometimes does. BA’s position is also that on SAm routes, origin open jaws aren’t allowed (and thus by definition also not double open jaws) but only destination open jaws.
Ultimately it’s what BA will ticket! Some routings theoretically disallowed on their new stricter application of fare rules are slipping past.
PS the issues are only relevant if using a CV. Otherwise should be fine.
@HampshireHog – I think Iberia does publish table, but if not HfP does it for you and it’s quite a simple table and easy to extrapolate the info.
More complicated is how BA applies the rules for Iberia and here it’s either rather nuanced or erratic.
With the mileages, you need to look at TPM as as well theoretical distances as BA sometimes does. BA’s position is also that on SAm routes, origin open jaws aren’t allowed (and thus by definition also not double open jaws) but only destination open jaws.
Ultimately it’s what BA will ticket! Some routings theoretically disallowed on their new stricter application of fare rules are slipping past.
PS the issues are only relevant if using a CV. Otherwise should be fine.
Indeed, MAD-NRT is band 8 6501-7000. The hidden BA bands seem to map across to IB. So using their current logic, for want of another word, then a band 8 return from either SIN or KUL would be possible but ironically not from HND which is band 7.
Trouble is, when you’re trying to snap up seats at midnight it’s not great to be having a debate with an agent about what’s allowed, hence I’d rather be fairly sure of my ground and with these options it’ll be the club suites 777 from SIN and book return online and call in for the refund of half points. What a palaver to use a voucher@jdb they will I think allow origin open jaws provided that both flights fall in the same band or zone as it was put to me by an agent
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