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    Good morning from the 17th floor of the HI Lima Miraflores. Had a good flight to LIM from MAD thanks to the IB crew and a poor off-duty staff member.

    My seat turned out to be broken and wouldn’t get past a slight recline! After about 10 mins of four of them trying very hard to fix it, I was swapped with an off-duty member of staff who was at the back of the cabin. Though the seat was in the middle and by the aisle (8H?) and right by the crew wardrobe, and not the better window seat I had been in (5L) I still managed to get a good couple of hours sleep, (and didn’t end up downgraded!) so all’s well that ends well.

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    @AntM Btw economy short haul seats aren’t identical.

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    Who cares what the worlds 13th best airline says or does anymore.

    The 40 million passengers a year who fly on it?

    And how do you define best?

    What the industry defines as the best- Skytrax – be interesting to see how far they fall down the rankings in a couple of weeks.

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    One could argue that the EU should specify a minimum standard seat pitch of 34″, which used to be normal. Capacity would drop by 15%, and there would be an additional 17% of storage for passengers and their hand baggage.

    One could argue it but it would never happen.

    Practically it could only apply to newly delivered planes as conversion of old planes would be at disproportionate cost and take years.

    If people think the roll out of CS is slow this would make CS look like Usain Bolt.

    EasyJet has approx 350 planes. Imagine how long it would take to convert all of those!

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    What the industry defines as the best- Skytrax – be interesting to see how far they fall down the rankings in a couple of weeks.

    Lol if you think that particular organisation represents the industry in an unbiased way,

    This was the company that awarded LH 5* in 2019 for a seat that hadn’t even been fitted into a single plane let alone sat on by passengers and is only now being rolled out!

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    Has anyone (successfully!) used the Dell “Get 10% back every time up to £1,000” offer on the Gold Business card in addition to the ‘normal’ £50 Dell half-year credit, on a single purchase? Or have experience on how such offers typically stack, understanding that one instance doesn’t necessary port to another? Can’t see obvious issues in the T&Cs. Thanks!

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    What the industry defines as the best- Skytrax – be interesting to see how far they fall down the rankings in a couple of weeks.

    Lol if you think that particular organisation represents the industry in an unbiased way,

    This was the company that awarded LH 5* in 2019 for a seat that hadn’t even been fitted into a single plane let alone sat on by passengers and is only now being rolled out!

    Probably as unbiased as yourself.

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    One could argue that the EU should specify a minimum standard seat pitch of 34″, which used to be normal. Capacity would drop by 15%, and there would be an additional 17% of storage for passengers and their hand baggage.

    But most people prefer to pay the absolute minimum price and suffer the consequent discomfort, which is how we have got to where we are today.

    Any mandatory improvement to baggage allowances would increase prices, which would not be popular with the majority of passengers who want their flight to be cheap and cheerful miserable.

    I’m not sure they’re talking about improving baggage allowances, merely standardising them. It’s crazy that different airlines have differing dimensions that they deem acceptable to fit under a seat when the seats are basically identical.

    I’m not sure it goes far enough though since many of the complaints people have are where the bag clearly fits in the size guide yet staff decide it doesnt and extort money for passengers to take the bag on board. There needs to be a penalty mechanism so if a bag can be shown to fit the guide but staff refuse it, the airline is fined at least double the charge they impose on the passenger. That would stop staff charging people unfairly when they’re allegedly on commission so incentivised to charge unfairly

    Standardising is an awful idea as already the luggage manufacturers design on the basis of their dominant home airline. Go shopping for a cabin case in Berlin and it’ll be scores of Lufthansa Group max size. Go shopping in Paris and it’ll be scores of AF-KLM’s max size. The EU would settle on a standard the lowest dimension of each and we’d all lose out. Who actually travels on that many different airlines for this to be a major matter to solve anyway? I do, and I get around it by having my BA max size cabin case, and equivalents for Aer Lingus, AF-KLM and TAP. Additionally I have a near universally suitable 4-wheel underseater. I am an edge case though.

    As for staff extorting money at the gate, there is a penalty mechanism and it’s called a civil action. People should of course be recording and photographing all such encounters. If wrongdoing is actually taking place, it is amazing how the presence of a camera and live streaming discourages it.

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    I have done my fair amount of travel with many airlines and never had an issue with luggage.

    The BBC article mentions some dude that was stoped and both outbound and inbound for having a case that was too large and was “left in tears crying” when he was asked to reduce the size.

    All a little dramatic if you ask me.

    The instructions of each airline are pretty clear and you still see people with huuuuuge backpacks trying to pass that as “hand luggage” (and they usually do manage to).

    I don’t think I have ever seen BA, LH and others measure hand luggage. AF has the smallest size of all, I still have an American tourister trolley that is specific to that airline only (5cm less than everyone else). I love it.

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    OH flew home on Ryanair last week and said there were quite a few people trying to board at AGP with 2 cabin bags when they’d only paid for one, and were being made to pay to check them in. Not sure if they had completely failed to understand what they were booking or just chancing it!

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    As per @yonasl, legislators would do well to avoid the exhortations of the emotionally incontinent when determining new laws.

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