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Good morning.
A new BA challenge arose last week with a BAEC booking. I am a Silver member and have made a booking to/fom LAX via JFK in October 22.
Late last week I was notified that my JFK-LAX flight was cancelled and I was moved to an earlier flight. This reduced my connection time at JFK from 3h£0 to 2h25. From what I have read, this is now a tight connection rather than a comfortable one!.
I found out this morning that the scheduled flight is still operating with American Airlines, even though it is cancelled in my booking. I called BA and the agent explained that “the codeshare with AA had been cancelled”. I was told that even though the flight was still operating, I could no longer travel on it. Bizarrely, if I miss my connection, I was told that AA would have to put me on that later flight.
Is this a new thing – cancelling a codeshare? Does anyone have any experience of this, please?So you are still travelling, but just at a different time?
I’m guessing there’s something in the Ts and Cs which says they can do this. Could AA have oversold the JFK-LAX leg in your cabin (though that would seem unlikely on a well-served route 6 months out)?
If it’s all on one booking, AA will definitely put you on the next flight if you miss the first one. IME US domestic flights get delayed quite a lot anyway so that might even work in your favour!Yes – still travelling. Cancelling is not an option! This does seem a long way out for a flight to have been already oversold. Thanks for the comments. We shall see …
2 hrs 25 mins is still a very comfortable connection at JFK even involving a T7-T8 transfer
This isue not a new thing.
When AA cancelled the JFK-LAX flight it automatically removed the BA code share number.
AA then reinstated the flight but reattaching the code share (with either the same or another number) is not an automatic process and there can be a time lag before that happens.
Until the code share is reattached BA cannot rebook you onto it.
Thanks CHrisC. To my knowledge, AA has not cancelled the flight. It is still bookable on their website. This is what I find rather unusual!
Oh, and I apprciate your comforting comments about the connection time at JFK. Good to know.
Is it bookable with the same flight number as your original booking or a changed one?
They are known for tinkering with their flight numbers for reasons known only to themselves!
Bookable on AA website with their flight number, but does not show on BA booking system with the BA codeshare flight number.
JFK T8 had a shortage of immigration officers before Easter.
https://www.los-angeles-airport.com/lax-flight-arrival/BA4690
BA flight BA4690 has been cancelled but AA300 is still operating. This was the original AA flight that I was due to travel on.They have obviously done something with the AA flight that has removed the code share.
It’s not something they do on a whim.
Perhaps they just made a mistake and originally cancelled it then quickly reinstated it but that still caused the BA code share to be lost and as I said earlier that’s not an automatic reinstatement process but should be resolved in a couple of days.
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JFK T8 had a shortage of immigration officers before Easter.
Which would have no bearing on a US domestic flight in 5 months time.
I was told by a very reliable poster on FT that code shares have to be manually created/modified, so often lag the prime flights.
You can ask BA to rebook you on the prime AA flight number, they’ll probably refuse. You can them ask them to check with a supervisor, or ask to speak to one yourself and mention that the JBV means you should be able to book on prime AA flights without issue. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. BA claim that you have to book a BA code share where one exists, but that is (supposedly) not true. Whether the BA flight numbers allow them a bigger share of the revenue, or whether they even have a reason who knows, but they always try to get you on code share flights.
JFK T8 had a shortage of immigration officers before Easter.
Which would have no bearing on a US domestic flight in 5 months time.
It’s one of those data points for sharing, that’s all.
Ok – thanks fr all the extra comments. I’ll give it a few days to see if everything settles down and the codeshare reappears.
I’m doing my first tier point run (DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX and back) and I don’t want it to go wrong! I only have a one day turnaround at LAX.
Thanks dougzz99 – I’ll try what you propose.
I’m sure that the immigration situation is changing all the time.That’s a lot of flying for a one day turnaround, it’d bee too much for me. What I tend to do is on the westbound where you day is extended, leave a good gap at JFK, this helps with any border delays, and if you already have Gold or equiv the Flagship lounge in T8 is very nice. The return with the compressed day I try to book tighter connections, and concern myself less with lounge time, and more with sleep. I did a LAX-JFK-LHR a couple of weeks back and the connection at JFK was 45 minutes, was still at the gate before the London flight was boarding.
In my limited experience AA are great with problems and rebooking after weather or other delays. Only slight issue on short notice changes is they like to shove you in economy having gifted all the business class seats to their upgrade scheme members.BA silver gets you into flagship lounges which are indeed very nice indeed!
Hi dougzz99. I am planning to do just as you describe with around 3 hours break at each change of flight. Hence the frustration of having this time reduced at JFK where I judge it is most critical! I am travelling in Club World and Business on a mixture of BA and AA flights. Hopefully, I’ll get into all the lounges along the way. I plan to have got to Silver by this point in the year anyway. Glad to hear that AA are good at handling disruptions! I’m hoping for no economy seats along the way!!!
I have a full 32 hours in LAX before coming back, so should be able to chill and catch up on my sleep well enough.The goal is to get to Gold for the first time ever, taking advantage of the double tier points on an autumn holiday with BA and the lower threshold before the end of 2022.
AA fiddles with their schedule every weekend and it causes the codeshares to drop off easily. As others say, they do reappear. Likely won’t be the last time this will happen to your booking this far out !
Thanks, SamG. I didn’t know that AA had a reputation for this “fiddling”. I’ll have to keep checking everything still works for my tier point run.
I think there’s a LOT of deliberate tinkering going on here, having been through something similar for both my wife & my daughter at Easter and possibly driven in part by (fractures emerging in the?) the JBV.
We had LHR-ORD-MCO booked, both legs AA metal, BA flight no, Premium Economy then Economy Plus.
AA then “cancelled” the ORD-MCO BA flight number. Close inspection of the route showed that on days when the EI MAN-MCO flight ran, the domestic codeshare options into Orlando were comically small. Tampa for example still had plenty.
Because of the PE sector, this caused a bit of a problem so I convinced BA Holidays to give us the last two seats they had for sale in the cabin on the nonstop Heathrow-Orlando flight. (As an aside, these were then booked into W class and as the plane went out full, the two of them ended up bumped into Club!)
AA will realise a far smaller $ amount for a seat on the domestic leg as part of a longer itinerary than if they could sell it for themselves as just the domestic sector, so it makes sense for AA to limit the number of codeshares on some flights. Not really cricket, but then neither is BA’s gouging for buying seat assignments when AA don’t charge!
Hi Swiss Tony and thanks for your further comments. I can see that for the fare that I am paying, AA may make little money and certainly less than selling these seats domestically.
I’m pleased to hear that BA did bend and accommodate your holiday. I have always found them pretty inflexible, even when you have a good case.
It will interesting to see how the tinkering unfolds over time and how BA is able to maintain (or possibly not) the TPR schedule that I have booked a long time in advance.Oh, and I totally agree (along with many others I’m sure) that BA’s charges for seat allocations are outrageous. Having had a silver card for a few years now, I never want to go back to paying so much to choose my seat in advance.
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