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A change in avios redemption pricing could also be a good time to bring in the long rumoured move to spend-based tier point earning, get all the bad news out in one go…
Hi folks is there any more news on this?
Hi folks is there any more news on this?
I think you can be fairly confident that had there been any news, the site would be on fire such that you couldn’t possibly miss the outrage.
Hi folks is there any more news on this?
I think you can be fairly confident that had there been any news, the site would be on fire such that you couldn’t possibly miss the outrage.
Ha. Ha so true. I will have to make do with brunchgate for my entertainment.
@LD27 – LHR can’t really win though can they.
As with any organisation, they have to plan for what is reasonably foreseeable and LHR that plan is agreed between the airport, airlines and regulator. Zurich has more snow days than non snow days in the winter months so has vastly more people and equipment dedicated to that task. Do you think it is appropriate or, more importantly, are you willing to pay (through the passenger service charge) for massive redundancy, just in case, or is it better to plan for the expected LHR worst case.
Snow ploughs are extremely expensive to buy and they need to be stored onsite, maintained and staff trained to operate them. You then need huge numbers of people to deal with all the areas the snow ploughs can’t reach and they need training to use the right equipment and right products safely on an airfield. LHR has nearly 3 x the number of passengers and only two runways vs three at Zurich so if a runway has to be closed to be cleared of snow, given the airport is at capacity, it will inevitably cause considerable delays and cancellations. It’s likely that visibility potentially associated with the snow will also reduce landings on the open runway. How would you propose to resolve that? If you run a relatively quieter airport with half the number of movements but an extra runway, it’s a whole lot easier!
This is the current Snow Plan:-
Sorry I didn’t respond sooner but have been travelling across Europe and had a few issues with Swiss and German trains.
I was not complaining about LHR and their lack of equipment to deal with snow. My point was to do with the issues with BA IT and would it cope with the possibility of dynamic pricing for Avios tickets, a sale and delays due weather at LHR all happening in the month of January.
I can believe BA are estimating and modelling scenarios for a revenue based points system. They would be doing a disservice to their shareholders if they didn’t (along with many other scenarios).
That is very different to having decided to introduce it. Particularly as virgin have just done this, there is very valuable data to be gained by waiting to see how it affects them: they are taking all the risk for you, and paying to be a real-life modelling scenario for you. It would be odd to not fully utilize this from BAs point of view by waiting to see what the at least the preliminary outcome of this is before making any decision yourselves.
As a BA premier member, further changes are coming early next year with regards to the exec club and they are not for the better
As a BA premier member, further changes are coming early next year with regards to the exec club and they are not for the better
Hmmm. Somewhat cryptic, maybe I should be booking some more flights for next year before the ‘not for the better’ changes kick in.
Well I’m already on a ‘pause’ of Avios activities for around 6m while I assess the real-world impact of the changes to my earning from the switch to revenue-based earning, as well as increases in spending prices. A further significant detriment to spending may well push the balance over to the ‘not worth it’ category for me. It’s already at the ‘meh’ stage with inertia and historic points the only reason I still have an active account.
Dynamic pricing is not coming in the considerable future and the comments this could come in January are absolute garbage.
BA and IAG Loyalty already have significant changes and transformation programmes in place occupying their time, like the integrated or ‘almost’ integrated loyalty programme and more standardised tier benefits across the IAG airlines in the spirit of the previous capital market day announcements (hence BA’s move to a single tier point collection year for all a la Iberia).
It seems BA revenue management have come around to the benefits of Avios and Avios seats being used to fill seats in off peak periods and while I’m sure they would find dynamic pricing an interesting tool, we know the technology time and energy is being spent to bring BA.com and behind the scenes IT onto a more modern platform and on enabling more obvious revenue raising activities like broadening fare types that can be sold via ba.com (as seen in leaked surveys on Flyertalk).
If any changes are coming that as customers we are likely to be unhappy with, they are more likely to be related to elite tier qualification than a wholesale shake up of the Avios booking system.
Geo , all I say is I wouldn’t bet on them not doing any changes with regards to dynamic pricing , whilst I don’t post often , my previous advice has been correct , somethings im not allowed to say due to my status .
If true how would the BA companion voucher fit in? If it followed revenue model your voucher could be worth say 400k avios where as at moment probably maxes out at 120k.
Do think the revenue model would finish me off with BA as I’d just start journeys in Europe and pay good value cash fares.
As a BA premier member, further changes are coming early next year with regards to the exec club and they are not for the better
Any indication of how early next year this will be? January, February?
I call bull**** on simonjones being a premier card holder, or having any insider knowledge.
The last little windup from him was about companion vouchers being removed from BA accounts, and there’s nothing in his post history that suggests prescience.
Nice try.
Mr X? Is this you??
The only thing that Mr Jones has suggested is that there will be further changes, which shouldn’t surprise anyone. The nature and timing of what happens next remains to be seen, but it’s also not exactly controversial to predict that many won’t like it!
I call bull**** on simonjones being a premier card holder, or having any insider knowledge.
The last little windup from him was about companion vouchers being removed from BA accounts, and there’s nothing in his post history that suggests prescience.
Nice try.
lol, you are indeed correct, it appears he was one of the unicorns who had their companion voucher being removed from their account, despite being a ‘premier’ lol. Credibility gone I’m afraid.
What I have heard is a move to 1 tier point per £20 spent.
What I have heard is a move to 1 tier point per £20 spent.
Heard from who?
This thread is getting rather silly.
What I have heard is a move to 1 tier point per £20 spent.
Heard from who?
This thread is getting rather silly.
I didn’t want to say who the source is, but do you know the Muffin Man? Who lives on Drury Lane
What I have heard is a move to 1 tier point per £20 spent.
I’d accept that for spending on the BA Premium
Amex card. Airfares not ao much especially if the taxes fees and other charges elements are excluded from the calculation.What I have heard is a move to 1 tier point per £20 spent.
I’d accept that for spending on the BA Premium
Amex card. Airfares not ao much especially if the taxes fees and other charges elements are excluded from the calculation.I don’t think you will get anything like 1 TP/£20 on the BAPP though! It was 1 TP/£125 in the promotion that ran until May.
I am surprised you took these clowns (or ignorants of arithmetic) seriously @JDB
Isn’t there a website that shows the cost per TP earned for BA flights?
Some were as low as a couple of quid per TP for some short haul club destinations and lower during sales.
And TPs earned from spending on the right card should cost more than those earned from flying.
@BAFlyer there used to be. But I don’t think they can get the data any longer to put the chart together. It was on Speedbird.
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