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    I will never have any biological children.

    This is rather off topic isn’t it?

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    No where tbh it’s either safe or not, interesting to visit or not. I leave my politics at home and enjoy visiting other cultures

    You now won’t fly Qatar? Well then don’t fly BA/any IAG airline or out of Heathorw, don’t shop at Sainsburys/Argos/Harrods, don’t visit many global hotels inc Savoy, The Ritz, Regent Cannes, IC Amstel Raffles SIN, The Shard, Canary Wharf etc etc etc

    291 posts

    I will never have any biological children.

    This is rather off topic isn’t it?

    I am relieved to know that adoption is still an option

    373 posts

    No where tbh it’s either safe or not, interesting to visit or not. I leave my politics at home and enjoy visiting other cultures…

    Genuinely shocked at this attitude. No matter how abhorrent the human rights abuses, the torture, rape, murder of segments of a population, whether on grounds of race, gender or political views, you’d quite happily implicitly support the regime because you enjoy the culture?

    748 posts

    @Acott, whilst I share your view that travel has moral boundaries, @NorthernLass makes a very good case for the counter viewpoint. Rather than being shocked by people with whom I disagree, I am fascinated to hear their perspective.

    Just my 2¢

    1,860 posts

    No where tbh it’s either safe or not, interesting to visit or not. I leave my politics at home and enjoy visiting other cultures…

    Genuinely shocked at this attitude. No matter how abhorrent the human rights abuses, the torture, rape, murder of segments of a population, whether on grounds of race, gender or political views, you’d quite happily implicitly support the regime because you enjoy the culture?

    That’s a bit of a stretch.

    239 posts

    I will never have any biological children.

    This is rather off topic isn’t it?

    Obviously not. The main ethical reason for not travelling as much as you’d otherwise want to is climate change. For most of us, the single most destructive act we can do with respect to this is selfishly procreate.

    239 posts

    No where tbh it’s either safe or not, interesting to visit or not. I leave my politics at home and enjoy visiting other cultures…

    Genuinely shocked at this attitude. No matter how abhorrent the human rights abuses, the torture, rape, murder of segments of a population, whether on grounds of race, gender or political views, you’d quite happily implicitly support the regime because you enjoy the culture?

    It’s an ignorant and simplistic attitude that hasn’t benefitted from much self-reflection. Easier to sleep an night maybe, but not a good way to live your life.

    1,227 posts

    No where tbh it’s either safe or not, interesting to visit or not. I leave my politics at home and enjoy visiting other cultures…

    Genuinely shocked at this attitude. No matter how abhorrent the human rights abuses, the torture, rape, murder of segments of a population, whether on grounds of race, gender or political views, you’d quite happily implicitly support the regime because you enjoy the culture?

    How far back do we go? Whose human rights history is whiter than white?

    I’d strike USA, Israel, Netherlands, France and Spain off the list

    Id even have to leave Britain …

    I actually find it shocking how oblivious you are to the abhorrent human rights breaches most of the world have either carried out or turned a blind eye to

    Also interesting you ignored the second part of my post … dont want to know about those things?

    Think next time you visit McDonald’s or Starbucks what’s actually happened to the profits they make and what human rights infringements they’ve funded.

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    No moral grounds stop me going anywhere, only cost/distance/time and safety. I’d have gone to Nazi Germany, Stalin’s Russia, Aztec human sacrifices, anything.

    I pay about half my income in taxes to a regime I find both abhorrent and a personal and national embarrassment, and is in stark and rapid decline, so I don’t feel in any kind of position to criticise other peoples’ governments.

    It seems likely that some combination of carbon cultists and national decline will make the quantity and variety of air travel we currently enjoy impossible in the future. I’m very much of a “fill your boots” mindset and trying to show something of the world to my children while it’s still possible.

    756 posts

    Apartheid is a red line for me

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    Flying – if nobody flew anywhere, how would we know what other Countries were like?

    Do we rely on “the media”? – we know just how manipulative that can be so just imagine “it” without any checks and balances.

    We’d all be living like North Korea within a year.

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    No moral grounds stop me going anywhere, only cost/distance/time and safety. I’d have gone to Nazi Germany, Stalin’s Russia, Aztec human sacrifices, anything.

    I pay about half my income in taxes to a regime I find both abhorrent and a personal and national embarrassment, and is in stark and rapid decline, so I don’t feel in any kind of position to criticise other peoples’ governments.

    It seems likely that some combination of carbon cultists and national decline will make the quantity and variety of air travel we currently enjoy impossible in the future. I’m very much of a “fill your boots” mindset and trying to show something of the world to my children while it’s still possible.

    👏🏻

    2,420 posts

    @TooPoorToBeHere not just carbon cultists and national decline. Geopolitical impacts as well.

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    @TooPoorToBeHere not just carbon cultists and national decline. Geopolitical impacts as well.

    Very true. Just look at the amount of countries unsafe to fly over.

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