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  • easyflyer 14 posts

    I need to send several thousand pounds to a friend to pay my share of a holiday. I could just bank transfer but I noticed that there is an option to transfer money via PayPal, using my Amex as the source of funds.

    Is there any down side to doing this? Extra charges, interest etc? Also would this count towards my sign up bonus spend?

    Thanks

    hugo r 282 posts

    Very risky , you could have both accounts closed , this question has been raised before on HFP , I asked the same thing and was told to stay clear

    NorthernLass 7,600 posts

    It’s usually agreed that one-off, or at least very occasional payments don’t necessarily cause an issue. People who have been doing it regularly, or for very high amounts, might attract attention from Paypal or Amex. I would wonder how much “several thousand” actually is?

    easyflyer 14 posts

    Wow. Why would they have it as an option if that is their possible response?

    Surely only blatant abuse is going to trigger that response?

    easyflyer 14 posts

    It’s usually agreed that one-off, or at least very occasional payments don’t necessarily cause an issue. People who have been doing it regularly, or for very high amounts, might attract attention from Paypal or Amex. I would wonder how much “several thousand” actually is?

    It is just under £4000. I’m not planning of making a habit of it, this should be the only time.

    BBbetter 647 posts

    Wow. Why would they have it as an option if that is their possible response?

    Surely only blatant abuse is going to trigger that response?

    ATMs allow withdrawals from credit cards. Does that mean it makes sense to do it?

    NorthernLass 7,600 posts

    Obviously I can’t say what will or won’t happen, but I personally would pay no more than £1k of that through Paypal. Do you have a partner with an account who could send another £1k? It’s still a decent chunk towards your SUB.

    easyflyer 14 posts

    Wow. Why would they have it as an option if that is their possible response?

    Surely only blatant abuse is going to trigger that response?

    ATMs allow withdrawals from credit cards. Does that mean it makes sense to do it?

    No, it doesn’t make sense to do that as the fees are extortionate.

    If paypal/amex dont want people using that facility they should withdraw it.

    Thanks for the tips. Will proceed with extreme caution.

    PeteM 709 posts
    paulg0 22 posts

    From the Paypal site.

    “Send money at the speed of life.
    Settle up with a friend. Help a loved one in need. Pay for a haircut or piece of art. Send money quickly and securely to just about anyone, anywhere”

    You are usiug the service exactly for what it is designed for. I would go ahead there won’t be any problems with a single payment.

    JDB 4,387 posts

    From the Paypal site.

    “Send money at the speed of life.
    Settle up with a friend. Help a loved one in need. Pay for a haircut or piece of art. Send money quickly and securely to just about anyone, anywhere”

    You are usiug the service exactly for what it is designed for. I would go ahead there won’t be any problems with a single payment.

    That’s what PayPal says! From Amex’s perspective you are taking a cash advance from them and it’s a loss making transaction. This is something they tolerate until they don’t and it’s difficult to ascertain that point as it depends on their assessment of you as a customer.

    People used to say don’t do it if you value your relationship with Amex, something I would have a agreed with in the past but now, particularly with the arrival of Barclaycard I, and many others, couldn’t really care less about Amex. The only unique feature is the 241 the absence of which would be eminently survivable, particularly as my wife considers them as more of a burden than a benefit.

    zapato1060 639 posts

    I would personally do a one off. But as stated its muddy waters.

    John 1,000 posts

    If both the sending and receiving paypals have been open for years and have regular purchase activity, I’d be happy to do a one-off to the value of a typical month’s normal paypal spend, or maybe half that monthly for 3-4 months, as long as the other spend on the Amex was also substantially more than the paypal amounts.

    easyflyer 14 posts

    Who’d have thought there would be such a complicated answer to this question.

    Thanks all

    redethernet1 89 posts

    Say if I owe someone a large sum. It would probably be a bad idea to send to a recipient who has just created an account?
    Despite the sender being a long time active user?

    Lady London 2,055 posts

    Say if I owe someone a large sum. It would probably be a bad idea to send to a recipient who has just created an account?
    Despite the sender being a long time active user?

    @Redethernet I think you know the answer to that.

    The replies here, are replies from people that actually know this stuff. One of the unique features of the HfP readership.

    Lady London 2,055 posts

    Say if I owe someone a large sum. It would probably be a bad idea to send to a recipient who has just created an account?
    Despite the sender being a long time active user?

    @Redethernet1 I think you know the answer to that.

    The replies here, are replies from people that actually know this stuff. One of the unique features of the HfP readership.

    BBbetter 647 posts

    Who’d have thought there would be such a complicated answer to this question.

    Thanks all

    If it sounds too good to be true…

    Who’d have thought some would struggle to understand that.

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