Aggressive £970 British Airways Club World fares to New York from Dublin

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• James says:

  16 May16 May 23:19

  Hello all,
  I’m using the avios & tier miles calculator on BA.com to figure out avios and tier miles (unsurprisingly !) that’ll be earned doing this DUB – JFK or DUB-LHR-JFK club booking and am after some clarification.
  Dub – JFK gives 4764 avios & 140 tier points one way (lowly blue member) on the calculator.
  So….. Is that what I’d receive whether I went DUB-JFK or DUB-LHR-JFK irrespective of the extra hop ?
  OR would it combine the two separate sectors DUB-LHR & LHR-JFK ?
  DUB-LHR 750 AVIOS, 40 TIER
  LHR-JFK 5187 AVIOS, 140 TIER
  totalling 5937 avios & 180 tier, or as a return flight, 11874 avios & 360 tier (enough to move into Bronze membership Tier (whooppee-doo – from a member who is Gold on Emirates) and enough Avios for a return (economy) to my Parents’ place near Bordeax (although I’d probably put them towards a further destination combined with some fuel surcharge dodging !!)

  So….will I get the rewards as if DUB-LHR + LHR-JFK or at the lower rate shown in the calculator at the DUB-JFK rate, even if I do actually fly via heathrow ??

  I’m sure I could have put all that in fewer words somehow !

  Cheers for any definitive clarifications which can be given.

  • Rob says:

    16 May16 May 23:33

    No, it is per sector – so 360 if you route via Heathrow and 280 return if you fly direct. This is why you get people trying to cram in as many legs as possible on flights in the US. If you were flying to Los Angeles for example you might be able to find an AA ticket that routed you London – New York – Miami – Los Angeles which would be a tier point bonanza.

    • Alan says:

      17 May17 May 00:31

      Yep, just back from AMS-LHR-JFK-MIA-SFO-MIA-JFK-LCY-AMS = 970 TPs 😀

      Re. AA – it’s very variable depending on the plane. Their 77Ws across the Atlantic are lovely and I’ve lucked out before with their Flagship Suite on LAX-MIA. However equally I’ve had old 757s with slight semi-recline seats that were dreadful – it’s going to improve as time goes on and they keep improving their fleet but for now it might be worth trying to stick to some of the flights where they generally put the decent planes on them.

      • James W says:

        17 May17 May 00:44

        That mileage run must have cost a fortune. Is it really worth thousands of pounds to have the few benefits of a gold card ? I can see the benefit if people are flying loads but if they are flying loads then why do they need to do the mileage runs !! Surely they’d get there anyway with all the flights they’ve been doing ??!!

        • Alan says:

          17 May17 May 00:51

          It can be hassle, but doesn’t have to cost. I had to fly to SFO anyway and stayed there for a week. At the time I was booking and for the dates I needed, direct EDI-LHR-SFO return was £4k in Club (and given the distance I was flying I didn’t want to go in WT). By comparison it cost me £1.8k in Club (BA)/First (AA) so actually a cheaper option. Obviously you’ve got to take more flights to earn the TPs, but I also got to spend a day in NYC on the way back and nipped up the Empire State Building 🙂

        • James W says:

          17 May17 May 01:56

          Nice !

    • James W says:

      17 May17 May 00:48

      Now that is interesting. Why just see NYC (which I’ve been there a few times, once on Concorde I might boast) when I could also hop over to Miami (see some friends)( and then LA for some celebrity stalking ?!

      I wonder if I can find a good price for all that ? Shame you can’t get away with adding a third (or 5th in this case) strike and still keep all the lovely miles & TPs……Iam right in assuming if you use the 3rd strike approach you’ll lose the rewards for the whole trip and not just that struck sector ?

      • Alan says:

        17 May17 May 00:52

        Remember that on many of these fares you can’t have any longer than 24h at anywhere en route so it has to be a fairly quick stopover!

        • James W says:

          17 May17 May 01:58

          Aha, of course ! Only one of the destinations is the real turnaround point, where you would have your week or whatever, and the rest are just routing stop-overs.

      • Rob says:

        17 May17 May 07:56

        No. Never seen BA do this, you will be fine.

• James says:

  16 May16 May 23:47

  Hi all,

  So I’ve gone and booked DUBNYC for two return in mid-August in Business. Now seeing the comments here about the quality of 757 business, I’m a little worried. What are my options for changing? BA online booking states I’ll need to call in to change but doesn’t specify if that’d require a fee or not. What’s the likelihood I can change, how much for and worth the bother?

  TYIA

  • Rob says:

    17 May17 May 00:03

    You have a 24 hour cooling off period when booking BA flights on ba.com – not sure if this applies to AA flights as well. No idea if there is a charge.

    • Brendan says:

      17 May17 May 00:23

      That’s one persons opinion. I’ve also heard very good things about AA business class. You are free to do your own research and reach your own conclusion!

  • James W says:

    17 May17 May 02:00

    No idea but whichever method you use please let us know what you thought so we have another opinion to take into account.

    By the way, I’ve had to change my name to James W because of you……

  • James says:

    17 May17 May 14:34

    So I ended up calling BA, refunding both flights and rebooking the same outbound DUB to JFK but booking JFK to LHR to DUB return. The reasoning is that on the outbound I’m not too fussed about a flat bed and it gets us in NY for the morning, so a full day ahead. On the return, a better bed is beneficial and the layover will probably help returning to UK time. Plus, keeping AA on the way out means still getting the above mentioned bonus (for one-way).

    Thanks for the help!

    • Rob says:

      17 May17 May 19:00

      Makes sense. I was going to post last night (but forgot) that on a day flight it doesn’t really make much difference.

• Polly says:

  17 May17 May 18:24

  Any chance we could get to HNL from DUB on AA then? Would that be considered one flight in total, as Hawaii is considered part of the US? Any thoughts ? Or better go from LHR on AA only?

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