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The end of pay.com – an easy Avios earning opportunity closes

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It looks like the pay.com bandwagon ground to a halt 10 days ago.  This was one of the easiest ways to generate free Avios points and potentially trigger credit card sign-up bonuses quickly.

pay.com cards were previously known as 3V Virtual Visa cards.  Available in Tesco, Morrisons and elsewhere, you purchased them for their face value of £25.  

They were designed to be used for online shopping at places which accepted Visa.  For a long time, a loophole allowed you to also use them for certain financial services transactions, including paying them directly into certain bank accounts which accepted debit card deposits.

Pay com card

When bought in Tesco, you earned the standard gift card bonus of 150 Clubcard points for every £50-worth purchased.  

At one point, you picked up 360 Avios (plus a chunk of credit card points) simply by throwing £50-worth into your trolley during your weekly shop and then registering the cards and making a £50 deposit into your bank account or against your tax or credit card bill.  You could scale it up as much as you wanted as long as you could find enough cards.

Even when the cards were blocked against financial services transactions, there were still ways of using them in full without messing around with online shopping transactions.  Sky, Vodafone and many utility companies would accept them as payment towards your account balance for example.

My guess is that the problem for pay.com / 3V is that they couldn’t make any money.  I would estimate that over 90% of the 3V cards purchased in the UK were bought purely to generate Clubcard points and/or credit card spend.  The people who bought these cards knew how to empty out every penny of the £25 from the card.

(I would be intrigued to see the due diligence done when 3V was taken over at the end of 2014.  Surely the new owners would have been aware of this?  A simple Google search would have brought up the various HfP articles for a start.)

If I am right – and I would like to stress for legal reasons that I could be wrong! – this would have destroyed the 3V business model.  Let’s assume that production, servicing and retailer profit margins ate up £3 of every £25.  3V needed you to leave behind at least £3 on every card before they made any money.

On paper, this could happen.  Few online shops let you use multiple credit cards per transaction.  3V assumed that if you received a £25 card as a gift, you might use £19.99 to make an online transaction and then forget about the remaining £5.01, because few online purchases are that small.  After a year, 3V would charge monthly fees which would quickly wipe out the balance and make them a profit.

That wasn’t happening.  Even people who did use the cards to make an online purchase discovered, if they read HFP, that they could top-up their Amazon account balance for their exact remaining 3V  balance.

What exactly has happened to pay.com?

It isn’t clear.

One major supermarket is emailing customers who enquire with a message saying that “pay.com have gone into administration”.  I cannot get any verification of this.  The ultimate owner of 3V / pay.com is a quoted company – SafeCharge – and they have not made any official announcements about any of their subsidiaries being put into receivership.

This is what we do know:

No pay.com cards purchased after 14th October will activate via their website.  You have bought a worthless piece of plastic.  Tesco moved quickly to stop pay.com cards activating at the tills and removed any existing stock from their shelves.

Morrisons did not, however. If you are sitting on a card which you bought but which will not activate via the website, you must return the cards to your place of purchase for a full refund.  pay.com is also willing to refund cards directly if you post them in.

Cards purchased up to 14th October can still be activated.  I would be tempted to clear them out as quickly as possible however, just in case.  If you don’t want to top-up your Amazon account, a list of other merchants who acccept them is in this article.

pay.com vouchers can still be purchased via Paypoint terminals.  There is a minimum transaction of £30 and a maximum transaction of £150.  As no retailer knowingly allows the use of credit cards for Paypoint transactions, this is of little use to HFP readers.  I doubt they are selling more than a handful of vouchers via this route.

It is not clear what will become of pay.com.  There is talk on the SafeCharge website of launching a new app-based payment wallet in Quarter 4 of 2015.  Whether this comes to pass or not remains to be seen.  In any event, it makes little difference to HFP readers looking to earn free Avios points and / or hit a credit or charge card sign-up spending target.  Time to move on.


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Comments (126)

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  • Nick M says:

    I think I read somewhere that there is a % transaction fee applied to 3v at PayPoint which would presumably wipe out any benefits in any event?

  • Frenske says:

    I wonder why it took so long.

    I have one 3V left, hopefully I can use it.

    • Danksy says:

      I have just converted my remaining £125 into amazon vouchers this morning… all without a hitch 😛 . Phew 😀

  • Polly says:

    Amex is accepted much more widely now. Plus you just have to go on line or call in and make the payments using either your amex or your tesco MasterCard to prepay the utility bills, as before, when there were no 3v to be had. I pre pay every single bill with a card. Most take amex. Some, like sky will take a direct debit from my mc or Visa card. Yes it’s a bit of a faff, but only takes a couple of hours a month. I just cannot bear to allow non earning monthly direct debits to go out, earning nothing. Our avios will roll in, but more slowly. There’s still major places like currys argos etc for large purchase items to buy the gift cards for. And you can buy amex gift cards and foreign currency to meet a target spend.

    We will still need to refer partners for amex cards, so the odd good bonus to gain.

    And with all these great ex EU J sales coming along at regular intervals , we may not even be continuing with this hobby, apart from their use in RFS to get us to our ex EU destinations! Or my fav 241 used in F, if we can get a seat in the future. All is not lost, but it is a shame.

    • Frenske says:

      Indeed I am now saving Mothercare vouchers to buy a top of the range car seat. Although the 150 clubpoints are great, the best part is we can buy them using money off vouchers. Knocking a good 15% of the price.

    • Volker says:

      One reason for the cheap ex-EU flights is obviously our strong currency – this can change any time. And then? I began to follow HFP pretty much after its launch and so many amazing opportunities are no longer available (I am still lucky to have some BMI CCs). Polly, you are talking about the end of our hobby already, maybe it is just changing significantly, an evolution rather than the end? Imagine HFP closing down! How would I and all the other addicts cope? Interesting times anyway!

      • Polly says:

        Agree, didn’t really mean the end, but as to earning high amounts of avios…. Exactly, we need this site big time. We are def too addicted to stop collecting, whichever way we can. It’s the challenge that gets us. And I love to think our bills are contributing to our hols. Takes the pain out of them a bit! Think it’s the first email we all open every morning! Let’s hope they are replaced by another free card, as suggested elsewhere here.

        • Idrive says:

          Polly i agree 100% you are very well desbribing ourselves here! At least many of us! Its a challenge it’s a lifestyle!

        • James67 says:

          The challenge remains but I cannot say I am sorry to see the back of 3V cards. They were fun when you could put them through NS&I but by the time I processed a carrier bag full of them I was in mental pain and sick of the sight of them. Coupled with diminishing tesco opportunities (particularly the crazy type) the challenge has become harder but I’m sure something wortwhile will come long somewhere sometime as it always does. My huge regret in the past year was missing out on the 12k economist deal last winter which I could have put through at least five acounts: I procrastinated one day too long!

          • Mark says:

            I suppose now we can all come clean about buying 3V cards with Amex BAPP and then paying them directly back in? Sign-up bonus cleared in just a few Morrisons trips thanks to that.

      • James67 says:

        Since when did £1=$1.5X equate to a strong pound? I’ve heard this strong £ argument in several contexts in the past week and I’m left scratching my head. Having been accustomed in the past to 1.8-2.1$, 7X Thai baht and over 15HK$ per £ I have definitely felt the squeeze on my overseas spending power over the past eight years and I don’t see much change anytime soon. I think the lower fares are more a combination of unfair competion from ME3 (but why should we care when we have been ripped off by likes of BA for years), low oil prices and oversuply of premium seats in some cities.

        • James67 says:

          Apologies Volker, i missed the key point, I guess you meant against the euro in relation to exEU deals.

          • Volker says:

            Nae worries, James. I did mean the GBP-EUR rates indeed which, by the way, have made my recent travels to the continent real bargains with regard to upmarket hotels and nice hired cars… Life would be perfect if there were direct flights on BA from GLA or EDI, but that’s me just dreaming again.

          • James67 says:

            Then maybe your dream came true, you can fly BA from Glasgow to Salzburg 🙂

          • CV3V says:

            I’m booked on the GLA to Salzburg flight, and i paid using cash! First time i have done that on BA in about 7 years!

            Entire return journey back is by train with stop offs all along the way, looking forward to it! The best value booking was Cologne to London (via Brussels) – booked on Thalys website and so much cheaper than Eurostar website that i had to triple check the transaction (98 euros vs £119), standard premier.

          • James67 says:

            Like Volker, we decided to take advantage of the weak euro too, we are doing a European rail tour next spring. We have not decided where to start off and end up. Unless we can squeeze a couple of Brussels Airlines partner redemptions EDI-BRU returns out of Etihad then it will likely be Copenhagen as we have a wedding to attend there. Focus at the moment is spire, ihg points and accor credit for hotels. Met amex spend target by buying euros at 1.41 so those are safely stowed. May mix and match the rail journey with some AB or IB redemptions depending how much ground we want to cover,

    • Boi says:

      How do you prepay bills?
      I used to prepay Eon with 3Vs but they still took the direct debit hence my account always in credit. Is there a way to stop them from taking it?

      • Danksy says:

        Reduce your DD to the minimum possible… we have a large house and consume approx £300 a month of gas/elec … we have a DD for £50 a month, the rest is credit card 😀

        • Boi says:

          Thanks.
          Now how to prepay with death of 3v!!

        • Worzel says:

          Blimey Danksy, that must be a large house!
          We have 5 beds- I reckon you must have about 15! 🙂 .

          • Danksy says:

            Worzel – 7 bedrooms, 5 teenagers (none of whom can manage to switch the lights off, but seem to be able to switch the central heating on “constant” )and a wife that feels the cold, but works from home it’s like the bloody bahamas in our house!

          • Worzel says:

            Danksy, ha ha- and understood!!
            Hope there’s a manageable hormone balance; and, if you ever need counselling………… 🙂 .

          • James67 says:

            When they leave home and you are paying for their education you will fondly recall the good old days wuth your low energy bills.

          • Worzel says:

            Danksy: James has a good point(our youngest at uni now), however all should be OK-I reckon I could be at your place within the hour were things to get tough!!

        • Polly says:

          Dansky we are similar, but I managed to get my dd down to £5! They tried to object, but when they saw my credit amount,they shut up. You must try to pay at least 2 weeks before the dd is due though, as they can call for the payments 10-14 days before it’s due. Mostly I just have an online account for all utilities and earn as I pay. Most will take either amex or tesco MasterCard or visa. Even our alarm company didn’t mind processing them for us. Really will miss them.

      • harry says:

        You can reduce your E.ON direct debit amount online to £17 or so. Probably less if you phoned them.

        I did this after crediting £300 of pay.coms (E.ON’s online credit limit being £300).

        That’s not possible now so get the Amex points via Paypoint.

        • Boi says:

          I didn’t realise you can still use points py even if you have DD? I thought that needs paper bill?

        • Mark says:

          If you submit a meter reading to EDF they will recalculate the direct debit amount, taking the additional payments into account.

    • Duncan S says:

      How do you pay bills using Amex? Who takes this? I’m not aware of many who do for free.

      I’ve considered it before, but thought it was too much faff for a handful of Avios compared to the time spent and in the context of other Avios. I thought Sky, for example, charged 50p/month to not have a DD set up, which would wipe out the Avios value of my £20/month bill = 30 Avios.

      • Alan says:

        IIRC Sky don’t take Amex, but I used my bmi MC with them. However you don’t cancel your DD, you just go to your online account and make an extra payment. As the account is in credit they won’t take anything by DD, but as it is still active there’s no penalty charge either…

  • Rich Spencer says:

    RIP

  • James says:

    I’ve still got 5 cards activated, time to bail out.

  • Mike says:

    End of an era. Although I think the biggest blow was last month when Amex stopped allowing you to pay off your bill using pay.com cards, that method was jolly handy. I would love to know who managed to buy the most cards across their multiple accounts……..looking on the bright side I am sure something else new will appear.

    • Phil says:

      I bought 473 cards in total over 2 years

      • Mr(s) Entitled says:

        Rookie! The experienced collector would have amassed 472 or 474 😉

        • Brian says:

          Not necessarily. Don’t forget that Tesco has other gift cards. Yes, it was most convenient to buy 2 x 25, but if you needed a 15GBP Whsmith card and a 10GBP Starbucks/Costa card, the 25 3V made up the 50 pounds quite nicely.

          • Mark Smith says:

            There was also an Amex offer for £5 back on a £20 spend earlier in the year – got a few that way that went to pay off the Amex cards!

            No wonder it wasn’t profitable for them 😉

          • Mark Smith says:

            Sorry that should have said £5 back on a £20 spend at Boots.

  • Jamie says:

    I must admit I panicked when I read this article as I have lost out on gift cards in the past when companies have gone out of business. I had one activated pay.com card waiting to be used and three further cards that I hadn’t gotten around to activating yet, all bought from Tesco in September. I just activated the three cards; paid two off my npower bill and the other two off my sky bill. Feeling somewhat relieved now.

    • Mr Bridge says:

      first rule of 3v/pay.com was redeem and spend within hours of purchase, if you couldn’t spend you shouldn’t buy. this lesson was learnt when ns+i stopped the payments overnight, and after the panic that HMV caused many amex clients.

      If you have any problems section 75 if you bought £100+( in one purchase) on credit card…though amex may consider less.
      visa chargeback if bought on visa branded DEBIT card..no minimum applies.

  • GH says:

    Managing to spend what stock I have left this morning without any issues – good whilst it lasted, £4,500 worth purchased and spent since I picked up the tip here in July.

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