Bits: get a 30% bonus on Marriott transfers to American Airlines, Hyatt New York deal

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• Gareth says:

  29 Oct29 October 06:56

  Have I missed the usual article on ihg pointsbreaks that starts today? Searched but couldn’t find it…

  • Louie says:

    29 Oct29 October 07:15

    Rob says somewhere else on here that it can wait until tomorrow – as it is so rubbish this time round 🙁

    • Sandgrounder says:

      29 Oct29 October 08:41

      The list is available elsewhere, but yes it is very poor, unless you need to be in Preston or Cannock…..

  • Rob says:

    29 Oct29 October 10:09

    I was flying back from Dubai yesterday so didn’t have time, and the list is too rubbish to ask Anika to give up a Saturday 🙂

  • Rob says:

    29 Oct29 October 21:07

    Any list where Crowne Plaza Belfast is the best GLOBAL choice is an issue!

• Lumma says:

  29 Oct29 October 07:11

  I once had a hotel in Long Island City. It’s an interesting neighbourhood to say the least

• DS says:

  29 Oct29 October 08:04

  OT: There’s a Qatar sale once a week, but what happened with Emirates
  great Business and First Class sales?
  There used to 2-4-1 etc. all the time, but I haven’t seen any good one in years,
  not from any country in Europe?
  They fill their planes anyway?

  • a270 says:

    29 Oct29 October 10:38

    I haven’t found any great deals with QR recently in economy where long haul is concerned. By sale do you mean the 10% off coupons they sometimes advertise. Rob, are we likely to get any good QR sales (like the BOGOF last year or exceptional Business class ones) for travel up to April 2018. Wondering if I should just book what’s there or wait for a good sale as we are a family of 4.

    • Clive says:

      29 Oct29 October 13:38

      They usually do a big ‘travel festival’ sale in January don’t they?

      • a270 says:

        29 Oct29 October 17:20

        Thanks, thinking of travelling in February so that would be quite late to book flights and hotels. Let’s see.

• Rtid says:

  29 Oct29 October 08:29

  OT. I have 4,300 Hyatt points due to expire next week. I don’t have enough to transfer into BAEC or do I have a Hyatt stay coming up at any point soon.

  Any other suggestions on what to do with them?

  • Rob says:

    29 Oct29 October 10:05

    Buy 1,000 to get you to the 5,000 for an airline conversion? Presumably buying 1,000 keeps them all alive anyway?

    • the real harry1 says:

      29 Oct29 October 11:07

      still working for new people as of a month ago (as reported here)

      those of us who have it working (me!) don’t dare touch our settings 🙂

    • Temp says:

      29 Oct29 October 10:39

      Cheers Harry. Might as well give it a go… The Qpoints are dying anyway!

    • the real harry1 says:

      29 Oct29 October 10:59

      I warn you: it is blimmin’ fiddly, however only took a few mins to get it working for myself & wife

      when you succeed istr you get an email confirming you’ve set it up right

      great way to activate an IB a/c without buying anything/ flying etc

    • Temp says:

      29 Oct29 October 12:12

      Ok, will ready myself! Should I wait for the Qpoints transfer to hit Accor, or will it still work if you set up the auto-transfer with a zero points balance?

• Roger says:

  29 Oct29 October 08:58

  OT

  Rob clock needs changing, still displays summer time.

• Alex W says:

  29 Oct29 October 09:07

  OT sorry. Mrs W just cancelled her Amex Plat. I know she won’t get any signup bonus for 6 months. However, I currently have a plat so if I refer her for Gold now, will I still get the 9k (or 18k!) bonus? Thanks.

  • JamesB says:

    29 Oct29 October 09:23

    In the last week there have been several reports on 18k so if you need those MR points for something soon then probably worth the risk.for an extra 9k. However, if points are not needed urgently then you amd Mrs W wou,d probably be better getting your cards into sync to max referal/upgrade churn cycles.

    • JamesB says:

      29 Oct29 October 09:39

      Sorry, forgot the key point to your question. If she successfully applies using a referal link from you there is no reason why you would not get the referal bonus.

      • Alex W says:

        29 Oct29 October 09:59

        Great, thanks. I’m about to cancel plat and based on this answer I think it’s better to refer Mrs W for gold as opposed to me downgrading to gold. The latter option I believe I’d be charged gold fees from day 1, whereas Mrs W wouldn’t as she would be in the first year?

• Roberto Bartoni says:

  29 Oct29 October 09:53

  Is there a list somewhere which explains how many points you’d need to pay for each property?

  • Rob says:

    29 Oct29 October 10:03

    No, but there are general unofficial bands – 50/60 for an InterCon, 40-50 for a Crowne Plaza, 20-40 for a Holiday Inn etc. You can reduce these numbers in Asia.

    • Roberto Bartoni says:

      29 Oct29 October 10:51

      Thanks, Rob.

      • Tom says:

        29 Oct29 October 12:12

        I always use http://www.awardmapper.com as a start.

        I’m not sure if it’s 100% up to date with new hotels and also rate changes, but gives an idea where the cheaper hotels are going to be.

        Can filter on brands, as well as points per night.

    • RussellH says:

      29 Oct29 October 11:49

      There are plenty of HIs at 15 000 in the UK, and some at 10 000 too. If I am looking for an overnight spot near a motorway in the UK I would never go as high as 20 000 for an HI – that is for a UK city centre emergency last minute deal only, really. After all, even on the special rate for buying points, 20 000 = $135 which these days is over £100, and more than Rob’s estmated value of an IHG point as being ~£0.005!!

      And I got the CP at Manchester Airport last summer for 25 000, which was arguably more than the room rate. Combining that with free lounge use thanks to a PRG Amex and completely free flights from LH (no taxes and fees for 15 000 miles) it seemed like a decent package, though.

  • Lady London says:

    29 Oct29 October 11:07

    The more prosaic answer is that to find out how many points properties cost, do a search on ihg dot com. Enter one hotel location or name. So you could enter.just “Frankfurt” and see a list of IHG properties there. If you picked the rate type Rewards Nights as one of the options you took in the pulldown on the field for this on the search, how many rewards points that property would cost will be displayed for each hotel alongside the cash rates.

• Tom says:

  29 Oct29 October 13:03

  ​
  O/T – Sunday points project

  My brother gets married in Italy next August – Lake Como (actually near Como itself). I am trying to devise a plan to minimise travel & hotel cost for my family. Would be grateful if someone could check my logic!

  Seems there are 2 properties…
  – Sheraton Lake Como – mixed reviews, 12k points / 230eur per night approx.
  – Hilton Lake Como – brand new (slightly better location), opens March 2018, 65k points, 250 eur per night.
  (prices/points for the weekend nights where can maxmise returns – weekday are cheaper).

  Assuming there are two adults (who would be eligible for credit cards) per family, these are the options i considered.

  SPG card – £75 fee, would get 11k points spending £1k in 3 months. Both adults do this and would just about get 2 nights with the ‘normal’ point searned by spending the £1k each.

  Hilton card -no fee in year 1 – free weekend night for spending £750 in 3 months. Again, both adults do this to get sat and sun nights free.

  Amex Gold – the 22k points would convert to either 11k SPG (almost a night -worth £200) or 44k hilton (not quite a free night). Or convert to 22k Avios to use for RFS – which i value at around £130 (cash flights £100 return x 2, vs £35 RFS x2) .We actually live nearer Manchester, where cash flights are closer to £150 return. So it’s a close call for converting to hotel points for a free night, vs RFS flights.
  Would also get 2 free lounge passes.

  Amex Plat – £450 fee in year 1 – would give Hilton Gold, for free breakfasts, and lounge access both ends, travel insurance. Could cancel straight for prorata refund of fee.

  So my thoughts are that the Hilton route is better than SPG – the zero fee in Year 1 (x2 people) and slightly lower spending target (although if used Amex points for SPG, that gives an extra night whereas Hilton not quite). It’s also a brand new hotel (which has its pros and cons) and is a slightly better location for the wedding.

  Realise that takes a few weeks for Hilton nights to be triggered, and vouchers only valid for 6 months, so would need to time it correctly. Also going to be tricky to earn the points and still have enough time to confirm bookings.

  What have i missed, any ideas? suggestions?!

  Any advice for a couple travelling with a 3 year old -thinking about hotel rooms, and also Avios redemptions for RFS?
  Thanks in advance!

  • TripRep says:

    29 Oct29 October 13:17

    What’s your length of stay, just 2 wknd nights?

    • Tom says:

      29 Oct29 October 14:13

      Everyone staying different lengths – some just the weekend, and others for a full week.
      Looks like the points/cash values are similar (Hilton and Sheraton) are similar for the weekdays.

      • TripRep says:

        29 Oct29 October 15:31

        I was asking in case one Hilton room was 5 nights, so on points, only pay for 4 nights….

      • Tom says:

        29 Oct29 October 17:11

        Trip rep- ok clear – unfortunately we don’t have enough points for 4 nights. We were looking at the Hilton in Oman on that basis, but these points are now being earmarked for Italy!

        (For some reason it won’t let me reply to your last message in the thread – anyone else find that or just me ?)

        • Alan says:

          29 Oct29 October 17:19

          That’s what happens when the maximum depth of reply has been reached – it’s to stop the width of reply getting ever-narrower 🙂

  • lev441 says:

    29 Oct29 October 13:21

    You can maximise the credit card sign ups by person A (you) referring person B (your other half)

    Examples
    A applies for SPG card (using referral), gets spend bonus of 11,000 SPG points + 1,000 for spending
    A refers B and gets 5,000 bonus points
    B gets spend bonus of 11,000 SPG points +1,000 for spending
    SPG total 29,000

    A applies for Amex Gold (using referral), gets spend bonus of 22,000 MR points plus 2,000 for spending
    A upgrades using platinum link gets 20,000 bonus MR points plus 1,000 for spending
    A refers B for Amex gold and gets 9,000 bonus MR points (or 18,000 as per current reports)
    A cancels Amex Plat
    B applies for Amex Gold (using referral), gets spend bonus of 22,000 MR points plus 2,000 for spending
    B upgrades using platinum link gets 20,000 bonus MR points plus 1,000 for spending
    B cancels Amex Plat

    Total 99,000 MR points

    Think that maths is correct…

    • lev441 says:

      29 Oct29 October 13:23

      *A should cancel amex plat after referring B and receiving the referral points.

      • Tom says:

        29 Oct29 October 14:53

        Ok great thanks – I didn’t realise the referrals were so valuable. Now it’s clear why rob is so points-rich!
        The only obstacle here might be the spending targets for everyone involved. Will give it some thought, thanks very much for the effort in your reply.

        • Rob says:

          29 Oct29 October 14:59

          For clarity I don’t get any special deal from Amex on referrals, although of course I can rope in family members etc.

      • the real harry1 says:

        29 Oct29 October 17:58

        somewhat surprising but I take it at face value

        I thought you would/ should get a better deal from them as bringing in the ABC1s?

        might have been a B (stroke A) once lol

        not now

  • mark2 says:

    29 Oct29 October 13:33

    Have a look at Marriott too. SPG points transfer at 3:1 and Gold (matched from SPG) gets breakfast. Have not looked at hotels at Como.

    • mark2 says:

      29 Oct29 October 13:37

      another major benefit of Marriott is being able to book and so secure rooms before you get the points.

      • mark2 says:

        29 Oct29 October 14:12

        but the nearest property is Malpensa so irrelevant, in this case

      • Tom says:

        29 Oct29 October 14:14

        Yep – already looked at Marriott – thanks. Shame!

      • JamesB says:

        29 Oct29 October 21:02

        @Tom, two points to add to above suggestions. Firstly, is Easyjet to Milan or Ryanair to Bergamo direct from Manchester an optional alternative to RFS from Manchester or Heathrow? Would think long and hard about Ryanair but I flew Easyjet this year for the first time and rate them above BA based on two flights. Lake Como is beautiful but are you sure you want to be there for the duration? You could consider a two centre with Milan. Hilton might be cheaper for your dates and there will be many other hotel options too. Holiday Inn is a short walk from Garribaldi Station for example and is only 25k points per night IIRC. Another plus of staying in Milan is you can do inexpensive day trips to Venice or Florence if you book train tickets well in advance.

      • Genghis says:

        29 Oct29 October 21:17

        I use Easyjet a lot within Europe and like the product. I don’t rate Milan that highly though. There are much better places in Italy.

      • JamesB says:

        29 Oct29 October 21:51

        @Ghengis, I found Milan something of a disappointment too but with the fast trains and local network it is a good base to see other places even on day trips. Found the seats on easyjet more comfortable than BA, important if spending 2h+ on board. Biggest selling point though for us in regions is direct flights,

      • Genghis says:

        29 Oct29 October 22:00

        I know a great place to get chateaubriand on a hot stone though in Milan. Delicious. Next time I’m in Zürich for work I plan to go to Milan on the Saturday, travel to Tirano and then on the Sunday take the Bernina Express to Chur then onto Zürich. A few posters here have previously said how good it is – you JamesB might have been one of them.

      • Tom says:

        2 Nov2 November 23:05

        @jamesb – yes Manchester flights are actually easier – but are actually more expensive meaning the value of the RFS increases. However in the last week Ryanair has released bhx flights which are even better so will probably consider that too.

        Re Milan – more than likely we will spend 1-2 nights in Milan – hotels definitely cheaper and can use some other chain points.

        @ghengis – care to share your Milan restaurant tip please?!

  • Gavin says:

    30 Oct30 October 00:53

    Can u maybe get a group discount rate?

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