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Carlisle Lake District Airport to reopen to scheduled passenger flights

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Stobart Group, owners of Southend Airport, announced yesterday that they are reopening Carlisle Lake District Airport to commercial flights for the first time since 1993.

Flights will begin on 3rd June.

Exact routes are not yet known but the airport talks of connecting “major tourism and business hubs including London, Dublin and Belfast”.  It doesn’t say which London airport but logically it would be Southend given that Stobart Group also owns that.

Stobart Air currently operates some flights under a Flybe franchise deal so it is possible that this may be used here, meaning that the flights will be bookable with, and will earn, Avios.  Stobart also operates some flights for Aer Lingus so it is possible that brand may be used for Dublin.

The airport is located six miles east of Carlisle and 20 miles north east of the National Park.  It is currently used by a number of general aviation flying schools and an aircraft maintenance facility.

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  • remora says:

    Is there a bonus for upgrading from the free BA card to BAPP?

    • Zain says:

      No Avios bonus, but you get to unlock the companion voucher at £10k.

    • Rob says:

      Not officially. Unofficially most people get 6,000 Avios but no-one knows why – Amex know nothing about it. Seems to be an IT glitch or an old promo someone forgot to delete from the system. Has been going on for literally years.

      • AndyF says:

        I upgraded from the free card to the premium to hit the voucher spend. Although I never received the 6,000 Avios bonus. That’s a Shame!

      • remora says:

        Is that 6k Avios referral-related or just seems to happen with any such upgrade?

    • Steve says:

      I got the 6k bonus back in October; but as Rob wrote – this doesn’t appear to be the case across the board. I wasn’t expecting it & didn’t make a fuss of it to Amex!

  • Graham Walsh says:

    Interesting tweet from BA. Telling customers to delete internet history to clear the price hike.

    • Alex W says:

      Well that’s a serious admission to make but not surprising!

    • Lady London says:

      HaHa @Julian Walsh I enjoyed that. I’ll bet British Airways will take care not to openly admit that again. If anyone does car hire IME Hertz has ratcheted up the price on repeated searches in the past and definitely don’t log in before you do your first search so you can get a truer result quickly about the pricing.

  • rams1981 says:

    OT virgin premium economy vouchers from credit card.

    I have these. How do they work? Do they upgrade two one way journeys so you’re a couple only one way works? When is the best time to use it?

    • mark says:

      yes if you only have one voucher they allow 2 people one way upgrades from EC to PE on reward bookings, so effectively you pay the miles for an EC ticket but get PE but you do need to pay the PE taxes and charges. There has to be availability in PE to use them. I used them this year for orlando no problem. Literally could pick any day I wanted there was a lot of availability.

    • lev441 says:

      Best time to use it in the past was in conjunction with a reward seat sale – but these seem to have stopped since the change to peak/off peak pricing.

      Nowadays, best time to use it (like most miles) is during school holidays when cash seats are high. I believe that the old cards gave 2 x vouchers per year for spending £5k and then £10k on the black card so in theory you should be able to use both vouchers for both of you on a trip as each voucher is 1 return journey.

  • Chris says:

    I’d expect 90% of the people who apply for the BAPP card through the booking process will never discover that the sign-up bonus was better elsewhere.

    Of those that do discover, some of them won’t care.

    And, in any case, it depends how you value Avios. As I use mine for a lot of short haul RFS, I haven’t got more than about 0.5p recently, so the £50 plus 6k Avios is a lot closer to £0 plus 25k Avios in cash value.

    • Alex W says:

      unless you value 19k Avios at less than £50 i.e. 0.26p, you’re still worse off.

    • Lumma says:

      I think it’s a really bizarre offer. Get a £50 statement credit but we’re going to charge you £195 on your first bill.

      If they offered a credit with no avios on the free card I’m sure they’d have lots of takers, especially if the credit could be applied to the card if you were approved immediately by Amex.

    • Rob says:

      They will discover as soon as Amex tell them to refer a friend! I hope no-one who values an Avios so low would pay £195 for a card.

  • HAK says:

    Does my BA companion voucher need to be used within the 2 year period or do I just need to redeem a flight within the next two years with a view to taking the trip later? E.g. Can I book in January 2020 for a flight in May 2020?

    • lev441 says:

      Needs to be used and flown within the 2 year period.

      • HAK says:

        Thanks for that.

      • ahop says:

        Ba have informed me that only part of the outward leg needs to be flow Genghis.

        Interested to hear if you have heard differently.

        • Rob says:

          This used to be the case and there was a game you could play by booking Manchester London Bangkok with a six month stopover in London. This was stopped a long time ago.

          You cannot book this on with a stopover so it would require calling BA. Whether an agent who doesn’t know better would book it – or whether the system will stop them – is the question.

      • Rob says:

        Let’s see someone get one booked first ….

      • ahop says:

        I tried on and a week seems possible, which would do me just fine.

        I spoke with agent about a 2 months and after checking around the office they came back to report that it was. I plan to book in the next month so will report back.

      • Anna says:

        The booking system does give you an option to pick an alternative date for the second leg, but i’ve only ever picked the following day so don’t know how flexible this is!

  • mark2 says:

    Talking about cancelling BAPP and keeping the 241, is it possible that Amex/BA may tighten up the T&Cs to prevent this while they are removing other anomalies?

    • Rob says:

      This is more of a BA IT limitation I think.

      • shd says:

        I cancelled a BAPP recently, having hit the bonus and earned a 241 (unintentionally), and the agent insisted I agree to this:

        “If you have earned a British Airways Companion Voucher, please be aware that Companion Voucher bookings must be made using the British Airways Card they were earned with. This is set in the Terms and Conditions on the Companion Voucher. Cancelling this Account may mean you are unable to redeem your Companion Voucher.”

        I took with with an A380 full of salt 🙂

        • mark2 says:

          BA are not enforcing this at present, but in a general tightening-up it would be very easy to do so.

      • Isabella says:

        Maybe Alex reads your site after you bumped into him on the tube…. I’ve just received a ‘30,000 bonus Avios sign-up offer email from BA -‘ just for you’ – BA Gold.

        • Down the Back says:

          When booking flights on BA website yesterday I was offered the 6k bonus but then today recvd email from BA offering 30k if I sign up before 31st Jan, nice improvement…… wonder if somebody from BA is monitoring HfP or just coincidence ?

      • Scallder says:

        Thinking about the logistics of this if it were implemented, given the 2 year validity of the BAPP surely that would mean having to pay up to £390 extra to use the voucher (c £390 at the 2 year mark, used the day before flying). I know it’s in the T&Cs but surely that would be a pretty outrageous thing to require someone to do for using something they earned in ‘year 1’ of holding the card.

        Am I right to presume that if you downgrade to the free BA Amex you get a new card number different from your BAPP? If so that would mean having to keep the BAPP itself.

        Not got anything to hand, but surely consumer laws have to be fair and reasonable do they not? If you couldn’t downgrade the card, I would like to think a court would side with the card holder over Amex (even of the ombudsmen might not)…

  • Alexander says:

    OT – anyone know why the referral bonus from basic BA to BAPP has gone down from 9k to 4k?

    • mark2 says:

      The rules have changed so that the bonus now depends on the card referred from rather than the card referred to.
      e.g. if I refer from Platinum to BA blue I get 18,000 at present but I wonder how sustainable this is.

  • Ali says:

    O/T: Re: BAPP — Took out BA free card Nov 2016, hit 10k April 2017 after which I upgraded to BAPP and 241 voucher triggered (but no 6k bonus some people have reported). Account shows that I need to spend 10k by Nov 2018 to get another voucher – so it looks like card membership anniversary is being counted as Nov (ie free card anniversary) rather than BAPP anniversary (April) — is this correct?

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