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What’s the deal with New York hotel ‘resort fees’ or ‘destination fees’?

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There was some discussion in the Comments section on Friday about the spread of ‘resort fees’ or ‘destination fees’ to New York.  We mentioned this briefly on HfP a year ago but the problem has grown substantially since then.

Many readers will have been asked for so called “resort fees” when staying at a resort hotel in North America.  Las Vegas is especially keen on them. It’s a daily mandatory extra fee charged by the hotel which is added on to the room rate that you originally agreed to pay.

This is an easy way for a hotel to advertise a cheaper price but charge a higher one.  It is usually added to loyalty scheme reward nights even when the room itself is free.

The fee might cover using certain facilities like the swimming pool or gym (because obviously you expect to pay for using a hotel swimming pool otherwise) and sometimes includes food and beverage vouchers.  You either end up having to use something you didn’t plan to – because, for example, you ‘bought’ a voucher for the hotel restaurant – or you pay for something you don’t even use.

This Wikipedia article is a good primer on the topic.

As resort fees are a great income stream for hotels in countries where they are not illegal, more and more hotels which are certainly not a resort have started charging them. As they cannot call it ‘resort fee’, names like ‘Urban Destination Charge’ or ‘Experience Fee’ have started to pop up on hotel websites.

Starwood, Marriott, Hyatt and Hilton are just some of the companies that have added fees in the New York area.

New York Hilton Midtown‘s ‘Urban Destination Charge’ costs $25 + tax per day and is justified by offering guests

  • premium guest wifi for up to three devices
  • daily $15 beverage credit in Lobby Lounge or Bridges Bar
  • daily $10 food credit in Herb N’ Kitchen (grab and go only)
  • local and toll-free calls

You can get your money back by buying a drink for $15 and using the $10 food credit, but with New York being New York I doubt that any guest wouldn’t rather spend the $25 in the city.

It is worth noting that this property is directly owned by Hilton.  It is not a franchise or management contract and the company is clearly in full control of what is going on.

Note that New York Hilton Midtown has 1,932 rooms.  This means that, if full, the hotel generates $48,000 per day from this fee, or $17.6 million per year.  Even assuming a modest 85% occupancy it would generate $15m per year.

The Grand Hyatt New York also has a $25 + tax per day ‘Destination Fee’.  This is what you get for your money:

  • Premium high-speed internet access
  • Local, long distance and international calls
  • $15 food and beverage credit in the Market per room per day
  • Daily access to the digital version of New York Times & Financial Times
  • Seasonal skyline rooftop tour of the Chrysler Building
  • Grand Central self-guided audio tour for two per stay
  • Macy’s Herald Square Grand Shopping Experience
  • Grand Central coupon book with discounts and free offers in Grand Central shops and restaurants
  • Luggage storage upon check-out (up to two bags, maximum eight hours)

Free long distance and international calls could be interesting as these could end up in a huge mobile bill otherwise – but only if you need to call home a lot and don’t have Skype.

The free luggage storage upon check-out sounds a bit odd as whenever I’ve stayed in a hotel and my flight wasn’t till late, I was able to leave my luggage free of charge anyway ….  The Chrysler Building tour takes place four times a week at 10am depending on the weather – so there is a possibility you won’t even be able to do this.

Nest up is the Sheraton Times Square and its ‘Daily Destination Fee’. For $25 + tax daily guests will receive:

  • $25 daily Food and Beverage Credit in Hudson’s Market, In-Room Dining, or Club Lounge,
  • One NYC experience of choice per day (Gulliver’s Gate in Times Square; Ripley’s Believe it or Not!, or City Sights New York Cruise)
  • 20% discount at Landau on all regular priced merchandise
  • Fitness Class with on-property instructor (1 per day)
  • enhanced wired internet and local / long distance / international calls

The food and beverage credit cannot be accumulated for multi-day stays which of course makes it harder to use.  Club Lounge credit is for beverages only and of course you need Platinum status for access to the Club Lounge anyway (and are drinks not meant to be free in the lounge?!).  Tax is not included either.

Even though the Sheraton’s ‘Daily Destination Fee’ looks better than Hilton’s ‘Urban Destination Charge’ it still doesn’t convince. If you’re travelling on your own you might be able to get your money worth but you’re still forced to use services you might otherwise not use and eat at the hotel when you could spend the same money elsewhere.

There are three NYC Experiences to choose from, but it looks like its only one ticket per room per day and I doubt you can accumulate them (though the small print only mentions no accumulation of food and beverage credit).

St. Regis New York has with $50 the highest ‘Destination Fee’. The $50 + tax per day will give you:

  • Daily $50 Food and Beverage credit (available in all outlets)
  • Daily $50 laundry / dry cleaning credit
  • Daily $24 Fodera hair salon credit
  • Free high speed internet, local, long distance and international calls (unlimited)
  • Two museum tickets per day

The daily food and beverage credit already covers the $50, you might use the laundry or dry clean credit and if a blow dry is $25, which I doubt it is, you wouldn’t need to wash your own hair whilst staying at the St. Regis. The fee forces you to eat and drink at the hotel and everything else might not be relevant or of interest.

Conclusion

Whilst not all of these packages represent terrible value for money, you are being forced to pay for something which you may or may not want. 

The longer your stay, the poorer value they become as the fee is daily but many of the benefits are one off, such as Grand Hyatt’s Chrysler Building tour.  Unfortunately you now need to be very sure you read the website small print clearly before booking any New York hotel rooms, especially via third party booking sites where the fee might be ‘forgotten’.


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Comments (111)

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  • Steve says:

    Wow this is a brilliant notice Rob ???????? I was about to book one of these hotels for a 4day trip this year!!

  • Steve says:

    Forgive me if I wrong, but, surely this can’t be allowed under the transparent pricing rules we have here in the UK??

    • Anna says:

      It has to be advertised clearly with the headline price here. I challenged hotels.com over this last year and the ASA made them refund me $40 in taxes which hadn’t been included in the room price I paid.

      Hoteliers in Bermuda are skilled at squeezing every last penny out of guests – some years ago we stayed in a resort where they added a mandatory $60 cleaning plus $60 restaurant charge per week to each booking, whether one required these services or not!

      It also annoys me that, having just joined HH, they don’t add on their room taxes in until you’ve clicked through a few pages on the booking form.

      Finally, I am amazed that Americans, who really resent being ripped off, are not making more of a stand against these resort fees.

    • Michael C says:

      Interestingly (and in reference to another post on Thailand above), Booking.com doesn’t include the 17.1% extra tax on the headline price.

      • Alan says:

        In my current experience, Booking.com does include all taxes for New York hotels in their headline pricing.

        Don’t know about Thailand though.

      • Anna says:

        If they are advertising in the UK they are legally obliged to display ALL charges that they could reasonably be expected to know about. This was my argument with hotels.com, they tried to say it was a new charge but I have been visiting GCM for years and know full well about the government taxes!

  • James A says:

    I hate hate hate these fees and go out of my way to avoid them where possible. I would much rather pay a higher headline rate than be hit with this sort of thing.

    • Lady London says:

      +1 I just won’t stay anywhere that notifies these fees (and I look very carefully in the booking process). If the hotel then tries to put them on, I tell them I wasn’t notified and I do not accept to pay. Hotel has backed down in the few cases it has got that far -this was Florida and Oregon – but I wouldn;t hesitate to do a chargeback on my credit card if they didn’t.

      It’s sneaky and underhand. And have you noticed that the so-called “food and beverage credits” or “hair credit” etc., are never covering the full amount required even at the cheapest end of those menus… No wonder AirBnB is doing well.

  • David Houston says:

    This has been the case in a lot of Orlando Hotel chains around the tourist areas for the past few years – your $25 per day gives you either 2 coffees or 2 reg bottles of water as well as “free local calls and free DVD rental” – wow !

    It basically means $12.50 per bottle of water which surely make its the most expensive water anywhere !

    David

  • Andrew says:

    When staying in South Beach Miami at Crowne Plaza using IHG points for a free night, they informed me at check-in that no resort fee was due on reward bookings. Although their resort fee was one that entitled you to nothing, just covered the cost of “running a resort hotel”.

    • Luke says:

      Talking about South beach – I stayed in very basic independent hotel at heart of Miami South beach (before moving to excellent Z Ocean Crowne Plaza next doors) and they charged 20 USD per night resort fee for nothing (not even a bottle of water), so New York fees do not look that bad from this point of view.

  • Neil says:

    Resort fees need to become illegal.

    I’m staying at The Venetian in Vegas in the summer. The resort fee is $39 + tax per day, and all you get is:

    Wifi (which I don’t particularly need as I have roaming, but would be happy to pay a small separate fee for if I did need it),
    Access to the fitness facility (note: not the actual pools, just the gym, and I am on holiday – if I don’t go to the gym at home I’m not going to the gym on holiday!),
    Boarding pass printing (haven’t printed one of those in years as it’s on my phone),
    Unlimited local and toll-free calls (I have a mobile phone that lets me use my plan abroad do don’t need it, and why would you be charging me for toll-free calls anyway?! In fact, aren’t all local calls free in the USA?),
    Magazines via an app (I already have Readly).

    Literally nothing of any use, and just an absolute scam. Over 5 nights this is $200 for nothing. I shall get my own back by not eating or drinking on-site and not using their casino!

    • Tracy says:

      Same, we have 2 rooms for 3 nights at the Palazzo in summer. The second room is just for the kids (16 & 15), wonder if I would have any luck getting the fees waived on the kids room…….

    • Nick` says:

      You say that you will get your own back by not eating or drinking on site…. I did see someone do sort-of the opposite at another Vegas hotel. I was queuing to check in and a rather irate man poured his bottle of water paid for by the fee all over the floor in the lobby in protest.

      Not to be recommended of course and a bit petulant, but I sympathise with his general message (which was – I don’t want it and don’t want to pay for it – have it back!). Resort fees, the ludicrous tipping culture and the bizarre practice of stating all prices before taxes is one of the things that separates the US from the developed world. A beautiful country that I absolutely love visiting, but I really cannot get my head around how they put up with such sharp practices.

  • David says:

    I have stayed at the Grand Hyatt New York several times and they have charged the luggage storage few for at least the last 4/5 years.

    Waikiki is another place for resort fees.

    • Colin MacKinnon says:

      Holiday Inn Express at Waikiki tried to charge me resort fees.

      I just said no way, and that I had specifically booked that IHG Hotel because it had no resort fee.

      Reception finally backed down because I was an IHG Plat ( from the credit card)

      Back home, I discovered the resort fee was already included in the UK quoted rate – so they were trying to charge me TWICE!

    • xcalx says:

      I was charged to leave my cases at the Sheraton New York back in 2005

      • Sam G says:

        It’s usually part of the union agreement in NYC – if you aren’t paying the hotel probably is unless it’s non-union, which is rare in NYC

  • Joan says:

    Hate hate “ resort fees “ . I’m sure on our lovely trip to southern Florida last year our hotel bills were pretty much doubled by resort fees taxes and 18% service charges ! A major offender was the then newly opened Ocean’s Edge outside Key West . It really bugged me because , although the hotel premises were beautiful it really wasn’t a resort . It had a pool but no poolside service etc . No room service. No
    Laundry service etc. When we asked at reception what the resort fee was meant to cover they struggled to find an answer ! Really bugs me !

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