OZ / NZ FROM £1410, SA FROM £990: Excellent 2-4-1 First and Business deals from Amsterdam with SWISS & Lufthansa

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The Lufthansa and SWISS ‘2-4-1’ sale has reached the Netherlands.  

Frankly, it has reached new levels of madness.  £1400 for return Business Class flights to Australia or New Zealand are virtually unheard of – only Air China comes close to this in its occasional ex-Germany sales.

Welcome to the SWISS and Lufthansa 2-4-1 luxury sale

SWISS and Lufthansa have launched some EXCELLENT First Class and Business Class ‘2-4-1’ deals from Amsterdam.

This is very handy for UK residents, since virtually every UK airport lets you fly to Amsterdam to connect with these deals.

Here are the core pages you need:

SWISS First Class 241 availability checker

SWISS Business Class 241 availability checker

Lufthansa First Class 241 details

Lufthansa Business Class 241 details

Here are the fare rules:

Up to 6 adults can travel per booking (minimum 2, no need to be a multiple of 2)

You must travel by 19th December

You must book by 1st March, although availability is limited so I wouldn’t delay

All flights depart and return to Amsterdam, connecting in Germany or Switzerland

You must stay for 3 nights or over a Saturday night

You must book 14 days in advance

You won’t earn Avios or BA tier points but you WILL get a very classy travel experience at a fantastic price.  You will also earn a pile of Miles & More or other Star Alliance miles which can be a handy alternative to Avios.

If you have Avios tickets booked to any of these destinations, you should do the maths on whether you should cancel (£35 per person fee, all Avios and cash returned) and book one of these deals instead.

SWISS Business Class deals

Here are the Business Class deals.  These are return prices per person from Amsterdam BUT based on two or more people travelling.

Swiss 2-4-1 UK sale

Here are your options flying in SWISS Business Class, photo above.  You can see an availability calendar here from Amsterdam on the SWISS website.  Click through, select your destination and an availability calendar will appear at the bottom.

Sydney and Auckland are the stand-out deals with some routings letting you try Singapore Airlines for part of the trip.  Johannesburg, Cape Town and Dubai are also laughably cheap although taking three planes from the UK to get to Dubai may be excessive!

All flights require a transfer in Zurich or Geneva.

  • Addis Ababa €1,320
  • Auckland €1,640
  • Bahrain €1,385
  • Bogota €1,262
  • Buenos Aires €1,528
  • Cairo €636 (short-haul plane)
  • Cape Town €1,381
  • Dar es Salaam €1,098
  • Delhi €1,176
  • Dubai €958
  • Jeddah €1,456
  • Johannesburg €1,151
  • Kuwait €1,385
  • Lagos €1,390
  • Luanda €1,985
  • Mumbai €1,296
  • Muscat €1,053
  • Nairobi €1,217
  • Penang €1,262
  • Sydney €1,712
  • Tel Aviv €508 (short-haul plane)

For clarity … it is a doddle to find days with availabilityGo to this page of the SWISS website and click on your destination.  A calendar of bookable days, shown in Yellow, will appear.

Remember that 2+ people must be booked together.  You won’t see the special price if you are only booking for one person.

Swiss business class

Lufthansa Business Class deals

Lufthansa is less fiddly BUT there is no easy way to find days with availability.

Some of the pricing here is ludicrous.   Rio and Sao Paulo are under £1,000 return, as is much of India and the Middle East.  Cape Town is just over £1,000, Johannesburg is under £1,000.

Sydney is €1,675 (£1,440).  Auckland is €1,705 (£1,466).

Some destinations eg Cairo are on short haul aircraft all the way – no flat beds!

Here is the Business Class 2-4-1 booking page.  Here are the prices:

  • Abuja €1,270
  • Addis Ababa €1,200
  • Almaty €775
  • Amman €725
  • Auckland €1,705
  • Bahrain €1,265
  • Beirut €635
  • Bengaluru €1,170 
  • Bogota €1,140 
  • Buenos Aires €1,550 
  • Cairo €645
  • Cape Town €1,405 
  • Chennai €1,540
  • Dammam €1,145
  • Dar es Salaam €1,220 
  • Delhi €1,185 
  • Dubai €980 
  • Erbil €715
  • Jeddah €1,335
  • Johannesburg €1,175 
  • Kuwait €1,265
  • Lagos €1,270
  • Luanda €1,865
  • Malabo €1,405
  • Mumbai €1,305 
  • Muscat €1,075 
  • Nairobi €1,240 
  • Nur-Sultan €1,135
  • Port Harcourt €1,945
  • Rio de Janeiro €1,150 
  • Riyadh €1,235
  • Sao Paulo €1,115 
  • Sydney €1,675

My last review of Lufthansa Business Class was here.  For a solo traveller it isn’t too impressive since you are effectively sharing the foot rest with a stranger when sleeping, but for a couple it is perfectly fine.  We went down to the Middle East as a family last October and I had no complaints.

To prove it works, here is Sydney in September:

Lufthansa 241 Australia

SWISS First Class deals

Here are the SWISS First Class deals – see the Amsterdam departures on the SWISS website here.

It is the same basis as before – click the departure city you want and an availability calendar will pop up at the bottom.  Easy peasy.

Swiss First Class

I would ignore the Sydney and Auckland prices as I couldn’t see any availability via the calendar tool.  Other routes are much easier to get.

  • Addis Ababa €2,510
  • Auckland €3,010
  • Bahrain €2,445
  • Bogota €2,572
  • Buenos Aires €2,798
  • Cape Town €2,841
  • Dar es Salaam €2,178
  • Delhi €1,591
  • Dubai €2,223
  • Jeddah €2,616
  • Johannesburg €2,071
  • Kuwait €2,370
  • Lagos €2,690
  • Luanda €2,695
  • Mumbai €2,196
  • Muscat €1,993
  • Nairobi €2,207
  • Penang €2,787
  • Riyadh €2,446
  • Sydney €3,057

Here is a typical Delhi deal – €3,184 for two people in SWISS First Class for a week in April:

Swiss 241 deal

SWISS offers an excellent First Class and Business Class service.   We are NOT talking Emirates or Etihad style private suites, by any means, but you get a good quality seat, good food and drink and a very attentive crew.  It is a very civilised experience.

I flew SWISS First Class in 2018, although I didn’t review it for the site, and it was as impressive as usual, albeit I put it a notch below Lufthansa First Class as the food is not as outstanding.  I also flew in SWISS Business Class to Dubai in 2018 with my family and it was similarly good, although the seats are showing their age a bit.  Here is an older review of SWISS First Class I did.

Lufthansa First Class deals

Lufthansa is, perhaps, the most civilised First Class experience there is.   Here is the review of my Lufthansa First Class flight from 2017.  And, of course, the First Class Terminal – yes, a whole terminal – in Frankfurt where you get driven to the steps of your plane is something everyone should try once.

These deals are not the greatest.  They are not bad, but the pricing was cheaper in the 2-4-1 ex-UK sale recently, and of course you didn’t need to position in Amsterdam.  I am listing them for completeness.

The exceptions are Johannesburg (ludicrously cheap at €2,095 return), Sydney and Auckland.  Without an easy availabilitity checker, however, I don’t know if Sydney and Auckland are actually bookable in First.

There are no Asia deals at all.

Here is the pricing in Euros PER PERSON return:

  • Abuja €2,330
  • Addis Ababa €2,390
  • Almaty €2,075
  • Auckland €3,075
  • Bahrain €2,325
  • Bengaluru €2,075
  • Bogota €2,450
  • Buenos Aires €2,820
  • Cape Town €2,865
  • Chennai €2,515
  • Dammam €2,325
  • Dar es Salaam €2,300
  • Delhi €1,600
  • Dubai €2,245
  • Jeddah €2,495
  • Johannesburg €2,095
  • Kuwait €2,250
  • Lagos €2,570
  • Luanda €2,575
  • Malabo €2,490
  • Mumbai €2,205
  • Muscat €2,015
  • Nairobi €2,230
  • Nur-Sultan €2,225
  • Port Harcourt €2,555
  • Rio de Janeiro €3,195
  • Riyadh €2,325
  • Sao Paulo €3,075
  • Sydney €3,020

You can book these deals here.

Where can I credit my flights?

SWISS and Lufthansa are both part of Lufthansa’s Miles & More loyalty scheme, although you can of course credit your flight to any other Star Alliance programme.

Because Miles & More is revenue based (your earnings are based on the price of your flight), you won’t do very well given how cheap these tickets are.  Think about a different Star Alliance programme, potentially one such as Singapore Airlines Krisflyer which is an American Express Membership Rewards transfer partner, allowing you to easily top up your balance.

The Lufthansa business class fares usually book into P class.  This page of wheretocredit.com shows what you can do with that.

This HFP article looks at which is the best Star Alliance frequent flyer programme for you.

How should I pay?

If you don’t have a credit card with 0% foreign exchange fees, your best option for paying if you book direct is American Express Preferred Rewards Gold which offers triple points – 3 per £1 – when you book flight tickets in a foreign currency.  This is because the transaction triggers the ‘double points for airline spend’ and the ‘double points for foreign spend’ bonuses.  Our review of Amex Gold is here.

Alternatively, look at Opodo (click here) or Expedia (click here).

Opodo and Expedia will charge you in £ which should work out cheaper than paying the 3% credit card foreign exchange commission for booking directly with SWISS and Lufthansa.

Conclusion

There are some genuinely excellent deals here to Australia and New Zealand, with the occasional gem elsewhere too.  Take a serious look.  Don’t forget to try Opodo and Expedia to avoid the 3% FX fee if you don’t have a ‘no FX fees’ credit card.

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Comments

  1. Rob, you don’t state this explicitly (I think), but worth pointing out that you don’t have to book a multiple of 2, i.e. the per-person price would also apply to a 3rd/5th etc. person on the booking (this is definitely the case on LH at least).

  2. Calling it 241 is rather misleading coz its not. Lufthansa says ‘up to 40%’ for biz and ‘up to 50%’ for first. Its not 241 with Swiss neither.

  3. OT,
    Passed through the Qatar lounge in Singapore tonight and very nice it was. Unfortunately we didn’t have much time there as we arrived at 18.30hrs and they were closing between 2000hrs and 2300hrs. We managed to squeeze in a lovely meal and a glass of fizz. Not sure if this closure will be a regular thing after the official opening later this week, come early to avoid disappointment. It’s small but perfectly formed.

  4. My Sydney flights on LH route via HKG and CX. Is it possible to credit the CX sector into BAEC?

    • You can try at the gate. With QR, l changed the final sector back to baec, from AA. That worked fine, but CX may not be able to. Originally l only wanted the 1st sector to go to AA, so was a bit annoyed when l found out at Doha that we could have changed it back to baec after the 1st sector flown from ARN. We learn as we go, in this hobby.

  5. Miles and More might be a worthwhile FF programme if these deals keep coming up. Booked a few now and considering crediting to SQ (P class 100% miles)

  6. O/T. Any help will be appreciated. I want to travel to Toronto at the end of March. I have quite a handful of Virgin miles and Avios. My preference will be to use Virgin miles I have tried to search on the BA website there are no reward flights( this is expected as it is very close to the travel date).

    What is the best way I can find a Business class ticket using Virgin miles or Avios?. I have an Iberia plus account but I have not earned one Avios. The account is older than 90 days, can I quickly earn some avios and qualify. Virgin miles can be redeemed on Air France/KLM from 13th Feb, not sure if I will get any luck

    • Lady London says:

      Try seatspy dot com for both
      Try baredemptionfinder dot com for BA
      You can look for award seats on American Airlines website – only the Saver types can be booked using avios – also sometimes it’s phantom availabity and BA agents can t see them to book when you call.

      Anything you find be ready to grab quickly as availability can change minute by minute

      Frankly you are leaving it very late.
      People who are serious about using points for longhaul often start looking as early as nearly one year ahead.

      Conversely you may find extra seats can get released very near departure date. If you haven’t found anything getting near then check more often 1-14 days ahead. You can set up paid alerts on some things like expertflyer and baredemptionfinder.

      To some destinations a cash ticket with Norwegian or Level may cost you less than the “taxes” you’ll have to pay alongside the required avios or miles.

      Good luck.

      • Lady London says:

        PS for full cash tickets to Canada at less than you will pay British Airways in taxes for an avios ticket, even at this short notice for your particular travel time this year, I suggest you watch for seats sold by Lufthansa in places like kayak. Even better if you can leave from places like AMS or other Europe – you can use avios to get there if you need.

      • Thanks for the info.I have booked BA Business class.

    • Jim Lovejoy says:

      BA shows business class flights from London available on the 26th, 28th, 30th and and 1st of April.
      Virgin Atlantic has pay with points greyed out. You’d have to fly into Detroit, Boston, or NYC then take a connecting flight to Toronto. Flying blue has award flights, at least from Paris and Amsterdam, but there’s no guarantee they’d be released to Virgin Atlantic. Delta flights often aren’t, even when Delta has what passes for saver availability.
      Good luck.

  7. Not sure about any other Asian destinations, but I managed to find BKK in first with Swiss on the Lufty site in May and June for €1873 pp. Business class too, a snip at €1094.

  8. Darren Banks says:

    Looks like the offer for the 2-4-1 Swiss 1st tickets is no longer valid as I’m getting the error “The offer you have requested is not available. (95955)”

  9. Scandinavian Traveler says:

    Any solo traveler(s) interested in taking part in the current Lufthansa business offer for two from Amsterdam to New Zealand?
    Found dates that work mid December till mid January with half of the trip booking into J class (the rest in P) for 1.292 gbp per person. Bargain for NZ and earns more than 80 % of *A gold on some airlines.

  10. Has anyone found 2-4-1 Sydney dates in August in the last few days? Happy with anything from PE – 1st.

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