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OZ / NZ FROM £1410, SA FROM £990: Excellent 2-4-1 First and Business deals from Amsterdam with SWISS & Lufthansa

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The Lufthansa and SWISS ‘2-4-1’ sale has reached the Netherlands.  

Frankly, it has reached new levels of madness.  £1400 for return Business Class flights to Australia or New Zealand are virtually unheard of – only Air China comes close to this in its occasional ex-Germany sales.

Welcome to the SWISS and Lufthansa 2-4-1 luxury sale

SWISS and Lufthansa have launched some EXCELLENT First Class and Business Class ‘2-4-1’ deals from Amsterdam.

This is very handy for UK residents, since virtually every UK airport lets you fly to Amsterdam to connect with these deals.

Here are the core pages you need:

SWISS First Class 241 availability checker

SWISS Business Class 241 availability checker

Lufthansa First Class 241 details

Lufthansa Business Class 241 details

Here are the fare rules:

Up to 6 adults can travel per booking (minimum 2, no need to be a multiple of 2)

You must travel by 19th December

You must book by 1st March, although availability is limited so I wouldn’t delay

All flights depart and return to Amsterdam, connecting in Germany or Switzerland

You must stay for 3 nights or over a Saturday night

You must book 14 days in advance

You won’t earn Avios or BA tier points but you WILL get a very classy travel experience at a fantastic price.  You will also earn a pile of Miles & More or other Star Alliance miles which can be a handy alternative to Avios.

If you have Avios tickets booked to any of these destinations, you should do the maths on whether you should cancel (£35 per person fee, all Avios and cash returned) and book one of these deals instead.

SWISS Business Class deals

Here are the Business Class deals.  These are return prices per person from Amsterdam BUT based on two or more people travelling.

Swiss 2-4-1 UK sale

Here are your options flying in SWISS Business Class, photo above.  You can see an availability calendar here from Amsterdam on the SWISS website.  Click through, select your destination and an availability calendar will appear at the bottom.

Sydney and Auckland are the stand-out deals with some routings letting you try Singapore Airlines for part of the trip.  Johannesburg, Cape Town and Dubai are also laughably cheap although taking three planes from the UK to get to Dubai may be excessive!

All flights require a transfer in Zurich or Geneva.

  • Addis Ababa €1,320
  • Auckland €1,640
  • Bahrain €1,385
  • Bogota €1,262
  • Buenos Aires €1,528
  • Cairo €636 (short-haul plane)
  • Cape Town €1,381
  • Dar es Salaam €1,098
  • Delhi €1,176
  • Dubai €958
  • Jeddah €1,456
  • Johannesburg €1,151
  • Kuwait €1,385
  • Lagos €1,390
  • Luanda €1,985
  • Mumbai €1,296
  • Muscat €1,053
  • Nairobi €1,217
  • Penang €1,262
  • Sydney €1,712
  • Tel Aviv €508 (short-haul plane)

For clarity … it is a doddle to find days with availabilityGo to this page of the SWISS website and click on your destination.  A calendar of bookable days, shown in Yellow, will appear.

Remember that 2+ people must be booked together.  You won’t see the special price if you are only booking for one person.

Swiss business class

Lufthansa Business Class deals

Lufthansa is less fiddly BUT there is no easy way to find days with availability.

Some of the pricing here is ludicrous.   Rio and Sao Paulo are under £1,000 return, as is much of India and the Middle East.  Cape Town is just over £1,000, Johannesburg is under £1,000.

Sydney is €1,675 (£1,440).  Auckland is €1,705 (£1,466).

Some destinations eg Cairo are on short haul aircraft all the way – no flat beds!

Here is the Business Class 2-4-1 booking page.  Here are the prices:

  • Abuja €1,270
  • Addis Ababa €1,200
  • Almaty €775
  • Amman €725
  • Auckland €1,705
  • Bahrain €1,265
  • Beirut €635
  • Bengaluru €1,170 
  • Bogota €1,140 
  • Buenos Aires €1,550 
  • Cairo €645
  • Cape Town €1,405 
  • Chennai €1,540
  • Dammam €1,145
  • Dar es Salaam €1,220 
  • Delhi €1,185 
  • Dubai €980 
  • Erbil €715
  • Jeddah €1,335
  • Johannesburg €1,175 
  • Kuwait €1,265
  • Lagos €1,270
  • Luanda €1,865
  • Malabo €1,405
  • Mumbai €1,305 
  • Muscat €1,075 
  • Nairobi €1,240 
  • Nur-Sultan €1,135
  • Port Harcourt €1,945
  • Rio de Janeiro €1,150 
  • Riyadh €1,235
  • Sao Paulo €1,115 
  • Sydney €1,675

My last review of Lufthansa Business Class was here.  For a solo traveller it isn’t too impressive since you are effectively sharing the foot rest with a stranger when sleeping, but for a couple it is perfectly fine.  We went down to the Middle East as a family last October and I had no complaints.

To prove it works, here is Sydney in September:

Lufthansa 241 Australia

SWISS First Class deals

Here are the SWISS First Class deals – see the Amsterdam departures on the SWISS website here.

It is the same basis as before – click the departure city you want and an availability calendar will pop up at the bottom.  Easy peasy.

Swiss First Class

I would ignore the Sydney and Auckland prices as I couldn’t see any availability via the calendar tool.  Other routes are much easier to get.

  • Addis Ababa €2,510
  • Auckland €3,010
  • Bahrain €2,445
  • Bogota €2,572
  • Buenos Aires €2,798
  • Cape Town €2,841
  • Dar es Salaam €2,178
  • Delhi €1,591
  • Dubai €2,223
  • Jeddah €2,616
  • Johannesburg €2,071
  • Kuwait €2,370
  • Lagos €2,690
  • Luanda €2,695
  • Mumbai €2,196
  • Muscat €1,993
  • Nairobi €2,207
  • Penang €2,787
  • Riyadh €2,446
  • Sydney €3,057

Here is a typical Delhi deal – €3,184 for two people in SWISS First Class for a week in April:

Swiss 241 deal

SWISS offers an excellent First Class and Business Class service.   We are NOT talking Emirates or Etihad style private suites, by any means, but you get a good quality seat, good food and drink and a very attentive crew.  It is a very civilised experience.

I flew SWISS First Class in 2018, although I didn’t review it for the site, and it was as impressive as usual, albeit I put it a notch below Lufthansa First Class as the food is not as outstanding.  I also flew in SWISS Business Class to Dubai in 2018 with my family and it was similarly good, although the seats are showing their age a bit.  Here is an older review of SWISS First Class I did.

Lufthansa First Class deals

Lufthansa is, perhaps, the most civilised First Class experience there is.   Here is the review of my Lufthansa First Class flight from 2017.  And, of course, the First Class Terminal – yes, a whole terminal – in Frankfurt where you get driven to the steps of your plane is something everyone should try once.

These deals are not the greatest.  They are not bad, but the pricing was cheaper in the 2-4-1 ex-UK sale recently, and of course you didn’t need to position in Amsterdam.  I am listing them for completeness.

The exceptions are Johannesburg (ludicrously cheap at €2,095 return), Sydney and Auckland.  Without an easy availabilitity checker, however, I don’t know if Sydney and Auckland are actually bookable in First.

There are no Asia deals at all.

Here is the pricing in Euros PER PERSON return:

  • Abuja €2,330
  • Addis Ababa €2,390
  • Almaty €2,075
  • Auckland €3,075
  • Bahrain €2,325
  • Bengaluru €2,075
  • Bogota €2,450
  • Buenos Aires €2,820
  • Cape Town €2,865
  • Chennai €2,515
  • Dammam €2,325
  • Dar es Salaam €2,300
  • Delhi €1,600
  • Dubai €2,245
  • Jeddah €2,495
  • Johannesburg €2,095
  • Kuwait €2,250
  • Lagos €2,570
  • Luanda €2,575
  • Malabo €2,490
  • Mumbai €2,205
  • Muscat €2,015
  • Nairobi €2,230
  • Nur-Sultan €2,225
  • Port Harcourt €2,555
  • Rio de Janeiro €3,195
  • Riyadh €2,325
  • Sao Paulo €3,075
  • Sydney €3,020

You can book these deals here.

Where can I credit my flights?

SWISS and Lufthansa are both part of Lufthansa’s Miles & More loyalty scheme, although you can of course credit your flight to any other Star Alliance programme.

Because Miles & More is revenue based (your earnings are based on the price of your flight), you won’t do very well given how cheap these tickets are.  Think about a different Star Alliance programme, potentially one such as Singapore Airlines Krisflyer which is an American Express Membership Rewards transfer partner, allowing you to easily top up your balance.

The Lufthansa business class fares usually book into P class.  This page of wheretocredit.com shows what you can do with that.

This HFP article looks at which is the best Star Alliance frequent flyer programme for you.

How should I pay?

If you don’t have a credit card with 0% foreign exchange fees, your best option for paying if you book direct is American Express Preferred Rewards Gold which offers triple points – 3 per £1 – when you book flight tickets in a foreign currency.  This is because the transaction triggers the ‘double points for airline spend’ and the ‘double points for foreign spend’ bonuses.  Our review of Amex Gold is here.

Alternatively, look at Opodo (click here) or Expedia (click here).

Opodo and Expedia will charge you in £ which should work out cheaper than paying the 3% credit card foreign exchange commission for booking directly with SWISS and Lufthansa.

Conclusion

There are some genuinely excellent deals here to Australia and New Zealand, with the occasional gem elsewhere too.  Take a serious look.  Don’t forget to try Opodo and Expedia to avoid the 3% FX fee if you don’t have a ‘no FX fees’ credit card.

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Comments

  1. mr_jetlag says:

    Can anyone who has flown previous 241 sale fares please confirm what fare class the biz flights book into (I, R or other)?

  2. Pangolin says:

    The LH C flights book into P (no surprises but that means v. slim pickings for crediting to most other airlines).

    I checked the SYD option for some random dates in November. The flight shown is AMS-FRA-HKG-SYD.
    The HKG-SYD leg is operated by CX.

    Also note – these flights cannot be rebooked or cancellation is non-refundable (though you can expect to get the tax surcharges back).

  3. Pangolin says:

    “For clarity … it is a doddle to find days with availability.”

    When I click the link to the SWISS page, I don’t see the availability highlighted anywhere in yellow.

    Playing around with dates, I see pricing of around 1870EUR pp to SYD but not the fares listed above.

  4. Lost me on the First condition – minimum 2 passengers. Solo travelers are clearly not of any value.

    • Proper busienss travellers are “excluded” by creating partner fares.

      • When I traveled long haul for business, it was always 2 or more in the team. It was only quick assignments in Yorp we did separately.

    • Agree, decent prices but so frustrating they keep excluding solo travellers 🙁

    • Surely an opportunity for someone somewhere – matching solo travellers for partner fares.

      It could be called ‘comeflywithme’.

      You can have that one for free.

  5. Get in – business to Sydney on LH/CX for just over £1400 each, and almost perfect dates, woop! Thanks Rob for putting this up, absolute legend!

  6. Trying to search Lufthansa to Auckland only brings up an error message for me: “There are no flights or fares available for the dates you have selected. Please choose another date and try again. (66002 – 866)”. I can see the flights via Google Flights (but through an OTA) – what am I doing wrong?

    • Figured it out — had to remove an access code that was being applied automatically. Sadly got through and there weren’t any options for my dates. Thanks anyway Rob!

      • which dates, i found mid dec 9th – jan 4th for AMS to AKL for 3.
        thanks Rob!

        • I’m looking both in June (end May to mid June – has to cover 6-8 June) and in November (approx 7 to 30 – has to cover both 14 & 28 November). Can’t find any availability on LH, Swiss has availability there in May but not returning & has no availability for November.

          Well done on getting Christmas dates – that’s fantastic!

          • Lady London says:

            Miserable weather mostly those dates though. Not the worst but better in other months. There’s a reason why NZ and parts of Australia are very green…

  7. Charlieface says:

    Swiss to Tel Aviv is an A330, there is no First service but you can reserve First seats for a fee (free for status members)

  8. Thanks these prices are superb!

    How would these in J to Australia be with a very young baby? Do they have a bassinet setup at the front of the J cabin?

  9. Sara Donaldson says:

    Hi there does this offer apply to 1 adult and 1 child when travelling or is it limited to adults?

    Thank you

  10. Sara Donaldson says:

    Can you fly 1 adult and 1 child on this offer or does it have to be 2 adults? Thank you!

  11. Usually I’d be over the moon to see such deals. Under the current circumstances though I cannot help but wonder whether such deals reflect a massive drop off in usual bookings as a result of fears regarding viral contagion. Any plans for analysis from HFP on this issue in the near future?

    • Bit unlikely given the lack of Asia offers. Looks more like aggressive attempts to improve yields by getting more leisure passengers into empty sests.

      We can expect some more aggressive moves from the hotel groups though. Some places are over-dependent on the Chinese market, eg Italy, Thailand, London.

      What is not clear is whether all bookings are down. Are people not booking the US over fears that this will spread everywhere? Are Brighton hotels seeing mass cancellations? Given that UK Chinese restaurants have reportedly seen huge falls in custom, it is clear you can’t predict what the aversge punter will do.

      • The Savage Squirrel says:

        Talking to local business owners in York recently, very worried as chinese visitor numbers are just starting to drop like a stone (visitors present at start of outbreak now leaving and not being replaced) – and they now form a huge part of the city’s footfall.

        Could soon be a very good time to book a Yorkshire mini-break….

    • Lady London says:

      When QR does 2for1’s I always assume it’s due to light loadings.

      • Certainly from Scandinavia yes, our J cabins often only had 4-6 people in them…whilst Y was heaving, never an empty seat. Scandis are canny, J for work, Y for holidays. They seriously didn’t go for those deals. Shame really.
        Recent flights though now more J seats taken. Our current ARN one was actually full, which was amazing. The return sector this has only our 2 seats reserved in the J cabin.

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