Possible 18,750 Avios for £53 via the Daily Mail

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• Tim says:

  14 Feb14 February 13:43

  Hello everyone, I think the offer page has been updated, it now includes following which wasn’t there yesterday when I signed up!

  “This offer is only available to invited customers and all orders will be checked against the mailing list and if they do not qualify they will not be awarded the Nectar points.”

  • Rob says:

    14 Feb14 February 13:47

    That’s what happens a few hundred HfP readers sign-up!

    • Tim says:

      14 Feb14 February 13:56

      I didn’t screen grab it yesterday, is it a new addition?
      Not sure whether to cancel the d/d as soon as it appears now rather than pursue the points after payments

    • Julian says:

      14 Feb14 February 14:37

      Rob,

      Surely you should not have encouraged people to spend their money on this offer only to end up with a large stock of loopaper or firelighters when you should have always anticipated the Mail would have seen take up of the offer by non invited persons as being a violation of their Terms and Conditions.

      As with encouraging your readers to churn Amex cards regularly you surely can’t be surprised if the commercial entities involved hit back by changing their own rules in terms of those who qualify for these offers.

      Of course I suppose if the Mail reject people entirely and refund them then no major harm done but if they leave them stuck with at least a one month subscription to the paper but no Nectar points credit then obviously people are bound to get upset.

      It does seem to me that with something like this that rather than promoting an offer the sponsor wants as many people as possible to take up you are in effect acting in a hostile manner by encouraging your readers to try to earn an introductory bonus from an organisation who’s own commercial logic is reliant on those who sign up becoming long terms customers of the organisation……..

      Clearly Amex changed their rules on earning introductory bonuses from new card sign up for this very reason……….

      • AndyGWP says:

        14 Feb14 February 15:03

        Re: your first paragraph Julian, if people can’t read the short article that clearly states and warns people, then more fool them (and when this was posted yesterday, the T&C’s didn’t state anything that could be violated either)

        As a reminder, the article clearly states:
        “For absolutely clarity, do not sign-up for this unless you are prepared to accept some risk that you will not receive the points because you did not receive the original email.”

      • Rob says:

        14 Feb14 February 20:18

        Amex encouraged churning here (after the US restricted it) because senior staff were bonused on sign up numbers. Eventually the US twigged ….

      • Brian W says:

        14 Feb14 February 21:39

        @Julian,

        As @AndyGWP has already highlighted, the article Rob posted made clear that this offer was risky and warns it is a gamble. He hasn’t encouraged anything at all. He pointed out the possibility it may go wrong throughout!

        Do you actually read these articles before spouting your negative, uniformed, blinkered, nonsense?

  • Alex Sm says:

    14 Feb14 February 14:57

    I took the screenshots just in case. Will this be a proof? All confirmations include a line about the nectar points, so would be difficult for them to challenge this

    • Charlie says:

      14 Feb14 February 15:01

      The confirmation email plus my PayPal receipt both say about the bonus

      • Alex Sm says:

        15 Feb15 February 10:18

        Yup

    • Jayne says:

      16 Feb16 February 01:24

      You’ve used a personalised web line not meant for you, for an offer that is not meant for the general public.
      You’re not getting the points.

      • Jayne says:

        16 Feb16 February 01:24

        *weblink

      • Rob says:

        16 Feb16 February 10:55

        The offer is available by Google.

        Having done this for more years than many on here have been alive, I promise you that in the majority of cases you DO get the points. If you apply after the rules have been changed / warning published etc then perhaps not, but the odds are always in your favour otherwise.

        The Mail could have added a rule to the T&Cs in the email saying ‘not transferable’ and they could have added it to the website. They didn’t. They sent emails to those who signed up confirming that they are receiving the points. There is no way back unless they cancel the orders – if they take your money (ie physically process the payment) then there is a contract in place.

• Charlie says:

  14 Feb14 February 14:43

  Has anyone phoned customer services to get a concrete answer on this? Whether it will be honoured or not….

• Charlie says:

  14 Feb14 February 16:20

  I have just spoken with a customer service agent and he confirmed, if you did not directly recieve the promotional email, you will not get the Nectar points.
  I cancelled my subscription no problem

  • Tim says:

    14 Feb14 February 18:15

    Can I ask when you applied? Was it before the terms changed on the website? Did you challenge the customer services on what was shown on your receipt or just cancel?
    Still debating whether to cancel now or wait till the two months has passed then kick off if contract is not honoured.

    • Charlie says:

      14 Feb14 February 18:30

      I applied yesterday about 1300.
      I challenged it a bit but they were having none of. Invited guests only they kept saying.
      I asked him to confirm 100% I wouldn’t get them and he did so I cancelled

  • Harry says:

    15 Feb15 February 03:49

    What did you expect him to say, you numpty?!!

    • Charlie says:

      15 Feb15 February 10:14

      Either way now i know. Better than being in limbo for the next 2 months

• TGLoyalty says:

  14 Feb14 February 19:28

  You can’t retrospectively change the terms of you signed up before they updated the website.

  I’ll happily challenge if I don’t get it and place a claim as my confirmation on both PayPal and email says I’ll get £150 of nectar points.

  • TGLoyalty says:

    14 Feb14 February 19:29

    But if ever the case of killing the golden goose it’s phoning up CS and questioning if you will get the nectar of you sign up etc.

    • Tim says:

      14 Feb14 February 20:04

      I wish I’d used a credit card now instead of a d/d, easier to do a charge back if the points are not awarded. I thought a d/d would be easier to cancel a regular payment though…

      • Brad says:

        14 Feb14 February 20:52

        Paid paypal myself, easy to cancel as it comes up as a authorisation, take amex + can probably claim through them

    • James says:

      17 Feb17 February 23:19

      You applied for a targeted offer with a link you weren’t personally sent or eligible for and was not available publicly from the company – you’ve not got a leg to stand on if the DM choose to cancel your sign-up.

• 747_Brat says:

  14 Feb14 February 22:49

  If they do as they say i.e. check against the mailing list, most of us here won’t be eligible for the offer. It puts us into a catch-22 situation, whether to cancel or take a punt! I am very keen to know what my fellow miles & points enthusiasts here on HfP think of the situation.

  I reckon I saw somewhere that we have 14 days to cancel and receive full refund. Can someone confirm this please?

• Cabal of rabid baboons says:

  15 Feb15 February 00:06

  That’s correct, you’ve 14 days to cancel, they just ask you return the vouchers unused.

  • 747_Brat says:

    15 Feb15 February 00:34

    Thanks 🙂

• Tim says:

  15 Feb15 February 08:53

  Can we have a poll?
  Who is going to wait and pay two months fees and wait up to 25 days to see if they get the nectar?
  I’ve decided to stick it out and fight for the points if necessary. Answer yes/no via reply please.

  • Hotelier says:

    15 Feb15 February 09:30

    Yes

  • Thomas O'Brien says:

    15 Feb15 February 09:40

    Yes

  • DRJR says:

    15 Feb15 February 10:01

    Yes

  • Alex Sm says:

    15 Feb15 February 10:17

    Yes. And we can have a class action if needed

    • Tim says:

      15 Feb15 February 10:24

      I don’t think you can do that in the UK.

      • TimM says:

        15 Feb15 February 14:38

        Tim, you obviously have not been following the BA data breach class action then. Tim.

        • Tim says:

          15 Feb15 February 15:12

          I stand corrected, had heard about it but not read the details.

  • yorkieflyer says:

    15 Feb15 February 22:55

    YES

    • James says:

      17 Feb17 February 23:20

      You applied for a targeted offer with a link you weren’t personally sent or eligible for and was not available publicly from the company – you’ve not got a leg to stand on if the DM choose to cancel your sign-up.

• Andy says:

  15 Feb15 February 16:14

  Received an email this morning confirming my subscription and the £150 in Nectar points.
  I wasn’t targeted just followed the link Rob posted.

  • 747_Brat says:

    15 Feb15 February 16:58

    That’s good news Andy. Thanks for posting. If the decline the bonus, you could use that email to raise a claim.

    Please could you confirm when did you purchase the subscription? I shall also be looking out for such an email. At the moment, I just have an order confirmation email from them.

    • thehornets says:

      15 Feb15 February 17:02

      I think you two are talking about the sme email. The wording inside the ‘subsciption confirmation’ email says ‘we are delighted to confirm your subscription’

      • Mark M says:

        15 Feb15 February 17:21

        Mine says :
        “We are delighted to confirm your subscription to the The Ultimate Pack + £150 worth of Nectar points ”
        I wasn’t targetted either.

        • Mark M says:

          15 Feb15 February 17:23

          I did pay by Paypal not D/debit. I didn’t see any reason not to, but have niggling doubts in my mind, about them making it
          an excuse not to pay out!

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