Is the ALL PLUS Voyageur subscription card a shortcut to ALL Gold?

This article is closed to new comments. Feel free to ask your question in the HfP forums.

• NigelthePensioner says:

  8 Dec8 December 05:20

  Can you assume you get a further 20% off, say, the Sofitel T5 ALL member rate, with the E199 card when you go to book the cheapest rate for a night without the E199 card?

  • The real Swiss Tony says:

    8 Dec8 December 06:41

    That’s a question I had myself as I need to spend around £2k on qualifying properties next year and it seems marginal.

    From Ryhs’s calcs
    Flex B&B = £515, ALL Plus Voyager B&B = £403
    20% off £515 = £412.

    And agree with comments below that the “calculator” is worthless

  • planeconcorde says:

    8 Dec8 December 08:15

    My understanding is it does not stack with the member rate discount.
    From the All Plus Voyageur Terms and Conditions available on the Accor Hotels web site
    ”
    2.2.1. Preferential prices at hotels
    The preferential prices offered by ALL PLUS may not be combined with any ongoing
    permanent price reductions, ALL Members’ rate included, temporary price promotions
    or packaged offers.
    Subscribers benefit from a discount on the best available rate on up to two rooms, in
    the same establishment and on the same dates, provided that they actually stay in one
    of the two rooms.
    …
    “

• blenz101 says:

  8 Dec8 December 05:38

  Can understand the more niche and budget brands not being involved but excluding Fairmount, Rixos and Raffles leaves a pretty big hole given the likely demographic of people willing to pay 200EUR for membership.

  • Novice says:

    8 Dec8 December 11:43

    True, I am a fairmont fan and tbh prefer it to any other brand in All

• Kowalski says:

  8 Dec8 December 05:53

  Does the discount apply at all Novotel hotels including Novotel Resorts, or just standard Novotel hotels?

  • planeconcorde says:

    8 Dec8 December 08:34

    Good question. The terms and conditions aren’t clear. The only mention of “resorts” is in the section about the guaranteed room. Stating the “In hotels identified as belonging to the ‘resorts’ category and at Thalassa Sea & Spa, at Adagio Original, Adagio Access and Adagio Premium establishments, the guarantee of availability applies only to stays of at least seven nights.”
    So to me that’s an implied yes, but not explicitly stated. Probably best to check with Accor to be 100% sure.

• Dannyrado says:

  8 Dec8 December 06:28

  How do you “check” there’s a discount available? I have a 7night movenpick stay and this might be worthwhile.

  • Rob says:

    8 Dec8 December 06:53

    Email Rhys and he will check! He’s around today. rhys@

• BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

  8 Dec8 December 06:30

  Treat that “calculator’ with a large pinch of salt.

  I put in 4 nights in the luxury hotel box (possible LHR Sofitel stays) and it came up with a “saving” of € 287 (so 88 after the cost of the card)

  Doing quick searches of my dates and the real savings for my dates would be € 200 (so break even) and only after that would I have real savings. And that’s based on refundable rates so even less savings on non refundable ones.

  I’m not saying this is a bad deal just that people need to put in a little bit of work checking if the sums add up before buying.

• AspirationalFlyer says:

  8 Dec8 December 06:52

  This can pay for itself and has done so on a recent trip to Thailand. I’m using it on a trip to the Maldives next year too. I coincidentally became ALL Gold yesterday until end 2024. Question: my Voyaguer status runs out in July 2024. I think my nights total will reset at the end of this year. Will I get another 20 nights on 1 Jan? If so, can I earn gold until end of 2025 provided I stay another ten nights by my Voyaguer expiry date in July 24?

  • planeconcorde says:

    8 Dec8 December 08:23

    When you pay for the ALL PLUS Voyageur subscription the 20 nights are credited to your account within one month. You will not get another 20 nights on the 1st Jan. Say you renew on 15th July 2024 then you will get 20 nights credited sometime between 15th July and 14th August 2024.
    From the Terms and Conditions available on the Accor Hotels web site:
    ”
    2.2.4. Benefits of the ALL – Accor Live Limitless loyalty programme
    On taking out membership and once a year on each renewal of ALL PLUS, Subscribers
    will be credited with a Status Nights bonus under the ALL – Accor Live Limitless loyalty
    programme. The amount of this bonus depends on the membership option taken out
    by the Subscriber:
    – ALL PLUS ibis option: bonus on achieving 10 Status Nights
    – ALL PLUS Voyageur option: bonus on achieving 20 Status Nights
    The Status Nights bonus will appear in Subscribers’ personal accounts within one
    month of paying for their card, provided that they do not cancel their card during the
    cooling-off period.
    …
    “

    • AspirationalFlyer says:

      8 Dec8 December 10:28

      Thank you – most helpful!

• BBbetter says:

  8 Dec8 December 07:23

  Are the Accor premium hotels any good in UK? Haven’t considered them due to the lack of points earning options.

  • Rob says:

    8 Dec8 December 07:34

    Mixed bag, it’s fair to say. Mercure is probably best option in Sheffield for example. Liverpool has a new-ish Pullman. Fewer midscale hotels than most chains though with Ibis dominating.

    • The real Swiss Tony says:

      8 Dec8 December 09:16

      The Novotel at Canary Wharf was pretty good when it opened, incl a rooftop bar. The Pullman at St Pancras also used to be good but haven’t stayed for some time. Have noticed their London properties often price well below other chain hotels on busier nights.

      • Rob says:

        8 Dec8 December 10:00

        Anika had a very bad stay at the Pullman about seven years ago (not reviewed on the site) before a Eurostar review trip and I don’t think it’s been done up since.

    • Alexander says:

      8 Dec8 December 10:41

      The Pullmann in Liverpool is great and usually well priced for hotels in that area.

  • Patrick says:

    8 Dec8 December 17:48

    Just completed a stay Novotel Hammersmith, excellent location and service

• Graham Walsh says:

  8 Dec8 December 07:40

  Typically I just booked all my hotels for next years olympics and mostly Novotels around France. Wonder if it would have saved me much on 6 nights stays. Need to check if any are flexible rates. Doubt it. Plus I’m sure they are keeping the pricing high on purpose for those few weeks.

  • Froggee says:

    8 Dec8 December 08:10

    I checked using the old IBIS business card which offers a discount on IBIS but in the same fashion. There were no discounts during the Olympic as I imagine, like me, you will have paid a “special Olympics rate” otherwise known as 3x the normal price for non-changeable, non-refundable.

    So I’m pretty sure you haven’t missed out.

    • Graham Walsh says:

      8 Dec8 December 09:33

      Thanks for confirming my thoughts.

    • Shanghaiblue says:

      10 Dec10 December 21:10

      Do you know if the guaranteed availability is on offer during the Olympics?

This article is closed to new comments. Feel free to ask your question in the HfP forums.