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Virgin Atlantic devalues ANA Business Class flight redemptions to Japan

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In March 2023, Virgin Atlantic devalued First Class reward flights on ANA with no notice.

Last week, Virgin Atlantic devalued Business Class reward flights on ANA with no notice.

You may see a pattern here …..

using Virgin Points on ANA is the best way to use air miles to get to Japan

If you are considering travelling to Japan the obvious options – especially if you want to earn Avios and British Airways tier points, or spend Avios – are British Airways and Japan Airlines.

(Japan Airlines is a member of the oneworld alliance, alongside BA, so you can earn Avios and Executive Club tier points, and spend Avios, on its flights.)

Qatar Airways is also an option, albeit indirect. If you are travelling for cash, the plane change in Doha means that you earn two lots of BA tier points in each direction – so 560 tier points (almost Silver) for a Business Class return flight.

If you are travelling for Avios, Qatar Airways need far fewer Avios (160,000 Avios return in Business) than British Airways (200,000 – 220,000 Avios return in Business) for a London to Tokyo trip. Qatar Airways also offers Osaka.

There is another option ….

There is a third airline flying directly from Heathrow to Tokyo – ANA.  ANA runs a daily service, departing at 7pm from Heathrow Terminal 2, to Tokyo Haneda, the nearest airport to the city.

ANA is a member of Star Alliance.  This means that you can credit ANA flights to Lufthansa Miles & More, United MileagePlus, Singapore Airlines Krisflyer, ANA’s own Mileage Club or whichever other Star Alliance airline you prefer.  

How to use Virgin Points to fly ANA

You can obviously redeem miles from any of the Star Alliance airlines for reward tickets on ANA.

You may not know, however, that ANA is also a Virgin Atlantic partner.  You can redeem your Virgin Points for tickets on ANA. 

Even better, the rate has historically been VERY attractive, especially when compared to an Avios redemption.

You can also earn Virgin Points when booking cash tickets on ANA, if you want to steer your next business trip their way.

Using ANA miles on Virgin Atlantic to Japan

How many Virgin Points do you need to fly ANA?

You can see the Virgin Flying Club earning and spending chart for ANA on this page of the Virgin Atlantic website.

Assuming you are based in the UK, these are the key numbers you need to know:

  • Economy return flight (London to Tokyo) – 65,000 Virgin Points
  • Business return flight (London to Tokyo) – 120,000 Virgin Points
  • First return flight (London to Tokyo) – 170,000 Virgin Points

One way redemptions are possible for half of the above cost.

Hang on …. isn’t Business Class meant to be 95,000 Virgin Points?

Yes, it was. Until last week.

With no notice, Virgin Atlantic has increased the cost of Business Class redemptions on ANA from 95,000 Virgin Points to 120,000 Virgin Points.

That’s a generous 26% increase.

This is isn’t as bad as the change to First Class last year – up from 120,000 to 170,000 points overnight, with no notice – but still not ideal.

What about taxes and surcharges?

Historically there were no carrier surcharges added to ANA redemptions using Virgin Points which kept taxes and charges from the UK at around £250.

During covid the airline decided that it had been missing out on a good revenue stream and started imposing random surcharges.

I haven’t seen a recent example but you should expect to pay nearer £700-£800 return in taxes and charges in total.

Use Virgin Points on ANA

Virgin Atlantic lets you book 331 days in advance

Virgin Atlantic only allows you book rewards 331 days in advance.

Whilst this does not sound like a problem, ANA itself opens up its flights for booking at 355 days before departure.

This puts an additional squeeze on reward availability using Virgin Points, since reward seats can be snapped up by ANA’s own frequent flyers or members of partner programmes which work on a 355 day basis before you have a chance to book.

You cannot book ANA redemptions online. You need to call Virgin Atlantic.

ANA has various European route options

If you can’t find availability on the ANA flights from London, they also flew – pre coronavirus – to Tokyo from Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf, Brussels, Vienna and Paris.  Dusseldorf and Vienna have yet to return.

The current European routes are (only Frankfurt and Heathrow have flights each day):

  • Frankfurt – Boeing 787-9
  • London Heathrow – Boeing 777-300ER
  • Munich – Boeing 787-9
  • Paris CDG – Boeing 787-9
  • Brussels – Boeing 787-9

Virgin Flying Club appears to have access to the same availability as Star Alliance partners. The Aeroplan (Air Canada) and United Airlines websites are both decent places to search for seats before calling Virgin Flying Club to book.

Is ANA any good?

Oh yes.

In 2019, ANA launched a new Business and First Class seat on its Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, and the London route was the first to get it.  It looks rather good, to put it mildly.

The First Class suites, known as ‘THE Suite’, are arranged in a 1-2-1 configuration.  Finished in dark woods, there are two only rows which make this an intimate cabin:

ANA first class the suite

The seat almost takes the full width of the suite, with only a thin slither along the side given over to storage or as an armrest. There is also an exceptionally large 43” screen which has a 4K display.

THE Room is ANA’s new Businesss Class product.  Club World style, half of the seats face forwards and half face backwards.

If you look at the photo below the first thing that will strike you is how disproportionately wide the seat is.  Look at the head rest.  You can see the protective cover, which is about what you’d expect the seat width to be. THE Room looks like it is twice as wide – more sofa-like than a seat! ANA says that THE Room has twice the width of their old business class seat (click for Anika’s flight review) which is not hard to believe.

Of course, this is business class and the trade-off is that it does taper into a cubby hole where your feet end up.  Nonetheless, the extra width at torso and shoulder height makes sitting and sleeping in this seat feel a lot less cramped.  It is a very clever piece of design.

ANA business class the room

I haven’t flown THE Room but I have sat in the seat at a media event.  It is, genuinely, huge.  At one point there were two of us sat side by side on the seat and we were able to have a normal conversation, with a decent bit of space between us.

Not content with a sliding door, THE Room also has a second opening which slides up and down.  This allows the crew to pass food to you whilst the door is closed, getting around one of the biggest issues with Club Suite and Qsuite.  The 24 inch 4K TV also looked very impressive, although it was not operating.

ANA business class the room

Conclusion

Putting up the cost of Business Class redemptions on ANA by 26% – with no notice – is clearly not great. It doesn’t exactly do much for trust in Virgin Points and Virgin Flying Club either.

Of course, you should have known better after the 42% increase in First Class redemption pricing in March 2023.

That said:

  • Economy Class redemptions are still unchanged from pre-pandemic
  • it was always likely that Virgin Atlantic would drop ANA redemptions entirely once they joined SkyTeam, so if this is what it takes to keep them then it’s a good trade off
  • 120,000 Virgin Points is still very acceptable value for Business Class on such a long route, especially when compared to the Avios required to redeem on British Airways

Remember that flying out of Frankfurt, Munich, Paris or Brussels may make it easier to find availability, but you won’t be able to experience the new Business Class and First Class suites this way.


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (April 2025)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 18,000 Virgin Points and the free card has a bonus of 3,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

18,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

3,000 bonus points, no fee and 1 point for every £1 you spend Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 50,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 50,000 Virgin Points.

The Platinum Card from American Express

80,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

American Express Business Platinum

50,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

Comments (52)

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  • HampshireHog says:

    In my experience there’s generally only one business seat for redemption on any flight if available at all

  • Ikaz says:

    I flew the room on Friday and was so impressed that I was about to open a couple of virgin Atlantic credit cards for the family for our next trip… might have to rethink that!
    Fun fact, I only flew ANA because BA cancelled our flight 24 hours before departure, and rebooked us on ANA (we were supposed to fly old club world on the 787… nice trade up in our case! Especially as we had booked using a 2for1)

  • TGLoyalty says:

    Price changes as demand is greater than supply shocker

    Do you expect to get notified of all price changes for products before they are made?

    I think it highlights saving miles for certain routes at certain times can be a very poor strategy as there’s no guarantee there will be seats and what the cost might be … but it’s pretty much like saving for any big purchase best to have the miles then book what seems reasonable. 120k still seems very reasonable vs 160k on Qatar.

    • icg2201 says:

      I think you make a very good point here. You don’t expect Tesco to give you notice that they’re going to increase the price of milk, but when an airline increases the price of a reward redemption without notice, it’s seen as being a terrible thing!

      • No longer Entitled says:

        But you buy milk with money which is widely accepted elsewhere. Airline points are, by and large, not a convertible currency.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          They are they’ll happily let you cash out for a gift card.

          • No longer Entitled says:

            Which is subject to change and I don’t need Tesco’s permission to “cash out” of milk.

            If you genuinely see no difference between points and currency then I despair.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        Bigger than that. TVs/Cars/housing developments. The price is always now it’s not this is guaranteed until we give you some notice it’s going up.

        • ken says:

          Its not remotely like Tesco or TV’s or cars.

          It erodes trust in the scheme.

          It’s not a catastrophic devaluation, and you should never be surprised but if you can’t find the occasional sweet spot the games less worth playing.

          No notice devaluations across the board (hello Radisson) is more like the government devaluing your currency (hello Zimbabwe).
          Radisson would now be my hotel of last resort & the devaluation didn’t even affect me.

      • Lady London says:

        Well you didn’t have to save up for years meanwhile making choices that you might have otherwise have made, for a pint of milk, so different.

        One normally reliable, rational and civilised website called Virgin Atlantic “crooks” over this.

        • Ian says:

          I really do think people have lost a sense of perspective here. Collecting miles/points is nothing more than a game – sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. It’s not that important and it shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

    • Track says:

      It has been a good business practice to notify in advance about redemption changes.

      Those things are done in a planned manner. Airlines publish redemption tables you know.

  • Phillip says:

    QR have clearly also joined the peak/off peak pricing game on the routes to Japan, but AY have not (yet). So for now, during BA’s peak dates around school holidays which tend to be copied by QR, AY still prices off peak.

    • WearyTraveller says:

      If you get the chance to fly to Japan on AY I highly recommend it. All their Japan flights have the new business class seat which is extremely comfortable – dare I say much better than BA club suite! Sadly the soft product (especially food) is still awful but I think their hard product is the best out of any European airline, including TK.

  • BJ says:

    I don’t think the covid era surcharges were either random or set by the airline, my understanding was that they were set by the Japanese Government.

    • LittleNick says:

      Yes I think you’re right, the government regulated the surcharges that could be levied but I think it’s slightly more relaxed now hence the additional fees

      • meta says:

        It’s still regulated by JP government. They can decrease it any time again.

  • Kevin Croft says:

    The chance of getting a miles flight using virgin points is virtually non existent anyway.
    Spent over 2hours on phone with virgin trying to get one .
    Ended up flying to shanghi and connecting to Tokyo.

    • LittleNick says:

      Yep, near impossible. I’m probably missing a trick but what’s so good about using the air Canada and united sites to search for award availability as you have to search day by day?

  • Just Nick says:

    Was lucky enough to fly in The Suite a couple of years ago on a virgin redemption. Not easy to find availability but an incredible experience if you are lucky enough to find a seat.

  • William Avery says:

    I would understand the inflation given it was a much lower rate but to add that as well as the taxes and then do nothing about the archaic phone booking. Tried this years ago and never had any luck despite finding reward availability via United I think? Either way mad that you have to call!

    • lumma says:

      I booked it from Frankfurt in 2019 to travel in February 2020 and apart from it having to speak with a human it was very simple and easy.

      I had to book around 9 months in advance to find seats (couldn’t find availability both ways from London) and the woman on the phone was surprised to hear I was booking from Frankfurt (London and the USA were the usual departure points she said)

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