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Is ‘wait and see’ a better points strategy than ‘earn and burn’?

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Is ‘earning and burning’ the best strategy for your hotel points and airline miles? There is a common view that it is, but it isn’t one I agree with.

As it happens, four things lined up this week which made me think it was worth looking at this topic:

  • a conversation I had at a press event, with someone who is very switched on but was still surprised how many Virgin Points I am sitting on (seven figures)
  • preparing updates to our ‘What are your hotel points worth?’ articles, where we show you the average redemption value BUT also what you can get on a good day if you wait
  • the fact that those articles will go out whilst I will be in Turkey on the best ‘pence per point’ Marriott Bonvoy redemption I have ever done (2p per point vs our 0.5p target) which used a balance it took me a few years to build

I’ll say in advance, with no shame, that the structure of this article is taken directly from the Frequent Miler article linked to above. There’s no point reinventing a very efficient wheel. Thanks Greg.

Is ‘earn and burn’ a bad idea?

There is a common view amongst many miles and points collectors that ‘earn and burn’ is the way to go.

I’ll define ‘earn and burn’ as spending your points as quickly as you earn them, so that your total balances do not build up over time. If you don’t, the logic goes, you’re at risk of devaluations.

Oddly, the same people don’t say ‘Don’t save your money, spend it as soon as you earn it’. This is despite the fact that inflation will eat away at the value of your money if you don’t. However, I don’t see anyone giving that advice and I doubt you’d listen if they did.

You want to save money for your future needs, perhaps unexpected future needs. Shouldn’t you treat your miles and points in the same way?

Bad stuff happens

I can’t argue that lots of bad stuff happens in the miles and points world:

This is only what we’ve seen in the last six months from the two main UK airlines.

Looking at the hotel schemes, we have seen consistent unwelcome tweaks. A few years ago, Hilton moved its top price from 50,000 points to 95,000 points with no notice. It isn’t that long ago that the most expensive IHG redemption was 30,000 points – now it is 120,000 points.

Remember that it’s less than 18 months since Radisson Rewards trashed its reward scheme by moving to revenue-based pricing with no notice. Points which got you 0.33p of value and often 0.5p of value now get you a fixed 0.15p.

Even Hyatt, which is still the gold standard for a hotel scheme which holds its value, has introduced a new Category 8 and peak / off-peak pricing. These factors combined to lift their top price from 30,000 points to 45,000 points per night.

Hyatt (and Marriott before it dropped categories) are also adept at moving hotels into pricier reward categories without nominally changing the reward chart.

You can’t sugar coat the fact that the list above has some pretty bad stuff on it. I know from HfP comments that Radisson loyalists who saw the value of their points balances wiped out 18 months ago have not forgiven the company.

I’m not including the recent changes to Hotels.com Rewards on this list because they don’t impact the value of your EXISTING credit balance.

But good stuff happens too

It’s unfashionable to admit it – and we don’t want to give the people who run the programmes the idea that they have leeway to try some more bad stuff – but the list of new ‘good stuff’ that we’ve seen in recent years is arguably longer than the bad list.

If you weren’t sitting on a pile of points, you wouldn’t have been well positioned to take advantage of any of this:

  • Avios introduced ‘Reward Flight Saver’ on long haul flights – whilst cash neutral for standard redemptions (you need more Avios but use less cash) it is a massive saving for anyone with a large Avios balance – who can book the ‘most Avios, least cash’ option – and using a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 voucher
  • Both Avios and Virgin Flying Club introduced GUARANTEED reward availability on every flight. It’s hard to overstate what a big change this was, and it is still one which is unique to Avios partners and Virgin Atlantic. Redemptions may have been nominally cheaper in the past but the seats were not there at peak times – now they are.
  • There has been a step change of the quality of premium airline seats, including Qsuite, Club Suite and the new Virgin Atlantic seats – your miles get you a better business class product now than they did five years ago
  • Virgin Atlantic joined SkyTeam, adding a huge number of new airline redemption partners
  • The launch of Virgin Red added new redemption options, including good value Virgin Voyages cruises, the new box at The O2 in London and – soon – Virgin Hotels
  • Qatar Airways adopted Avios, leading to a HUGE drop in the cost of getting to Asia and Australasia. BA wants 340,000 Avios to fly to Sydney on a peak date and the seats are never there anyway. Qatar Airways only wants 180,000 Avios return in Business Class, you can fly Qsuite, you can choose from six destinations in Australasia and availability (whilst it comes and goes) is often very good.
  • Qatar Airways lets you redeem Avios for JetBlue flights on transatlantic routes (and of course US domestic routes too)
  • Hilton has just brought 400 Small Luxury Hotels on board and is offering redemptions priced off their standard reward chart. You won’t pay more than 130,000 points per night even for (as an example) the all-inclusive villas at Hermitage Bay in Antigua or at Milaidhoo in the Maldives.
  • Luxury hotel redemption options have improved massively – IHG has added Regent and Six Senses (the latter not fully integrated, I accept), Hyatt added Thompson, Mr & Mrs Smith and is buying The Standard, Hilton just added NoMad and Graduate Hotels as well as SLH

You need to be ready when opportunity knocks

Clearly, over the long term, the value of your miles and points will decline. This is no different to the way that the value of your cash will decline though. I am still surprised every time that I realise a Twix is no longer 10p.

However, opportunities are always coming along and you need to be ready.

The only way to jump on deals that emerge is to either keep a stash of miles and points available in your preferred currencies, or to have points which transfer instantly (or in the worse case overnight) into those currencies. You don’t want to find yourself with an empty account at the wrong time.

It’s not for me to say what you should choose, but this is how I approach things:

  • I try to keep 400,000 Avios across my household accounts. This is roughly what we’d need (with 2 x 2-4-1 vouchers) to book a long-haul Club Suite trip for four if BA announces a new route – and every day, every flight is available immediately to book – or opens up a pile of seats to somewhere we’d like to go. This plan paid off with the Dubai ‘Avios only’ flight this year and a trip we did to Mauritius a couple of years ago.
  • For the same reason, I try to ensure I always have 2 x BA Amex 2-4-1 vouchers available in my British Airways account
  • I try to keep at least 100,000 Hilton Honors points available, which is what I’d need if a really good ‘buy it now’ experiences redemption popped up – one which would disappear if I had to wait 24 hours for an American Express Membership Rewards transfer to arrive. I should perhaps have had more though, because the best Small Luxury Hotels redemptions went quickly when loaded last month.
  • I buy the maximum number of World of Hyatt points each year for my wife and myself when a good bonus offer is on – this gets me 55,000 points per account plus the bonus. It’s hard not to get value from Hyatt points even if you buy them. I’ve just upgraded to the top suite at Andaz Amsterdam for just 9,000 points for an October stay, for example.

The only balance I have which is arguably too high is Virgin Points. However, within 3-5 years both my children with be gone during term time and it is a LOT easier to get 2 x Virgin Atlantic Upper Class seats than it is to get four. I could burn through my balance in 2-3 trips to the Caribbean and US with my wife.

I should, potentially, have run down my IHG One Rewards points. With around 600,000 between my wife and I, the move to revenue based redemptions has lost me some value. On the upside, IHG is expanding its ‘experiences’ rewards and I hope to pick up some good value VIP tickets to an event at some point. We may also see full Six Senses integration.

Earning is easier, so perhaps you should burn?

This article is NOT about earning points. It is about how you spend them.

However …. we should also touch on how easy it is to replenish your account. You may be more willing to burn points if you know they are easy enough to replace. Similarly, I am hesitent about burning more than 150,000 Hyatt points per year, because this is the maximum (with a bonus) that my wife and I can buy between us.

Everyone has a different willingness to ‘churn’ credit cards for their sign-up bonuses. However, you can’t argue that we have seen record sign-up deals in the last couple of years:

  • 100,000 American Express Membership Rewards points on both the personal Platinum card and Business Platinum
  • 70,000 Avios on the British Airways Premium Plus American Express card
  • 100,000 Avios for opening a Barclays Premier current account and taking out the Avios Plus credit card

…. etc etc. With bonuses repeatable after two years once you have cancelled a card, and doubled up across a couple, replenishing your points has arguably never been easier.

One spanner in the works, of course, is if American Express goes through with its constantly delayed plans to stop pro-rata fee refunds.

Conclusion

There’s nothing new in anything I’ve written above. For years our articles on hotel point valuations have used two figures – our average value and our ‘what you’ll get if you wait for a good day’ value.

The bigger picture is that you’re wrong to believe that your miles and points should be burnt at the earliest opportunity.

Whilst saving your points for retirement is never smart – some schemes won’t let you do that anyway because of ‘hard’ expiries which wipe your points after a few years (hello Lufthansa, hello Emirates, hello Singapore Airlines) – neither is keeping very low balances.

The safest points to hold are convertible points – mainly American Express Membership Rewards points but also HSBC Premier credit card points. Even if Avios or Virgin Red go on a crazy devaluation spree tomorrow, you’ll still be OK if your points are sitting with Amex – you can simply transfer to another partner instead. You may even get lucky and hit a transfer bonus like the current ‘30% bonus transferring Amex points to Marriott Bonvoy’ offer.

You will always see some horror devaluation stories – hello Radisson – but are ALL your points balances going to tank overnight? No. You could look at them in the same way that you’d look at a share portfolio – you’ll get the odd dud but the majority should pay off, and the odd one pay off spectacularly.

We’re also approaching an inflection point in the travel cycle. With the post-covid travel boom over, we’re going to see more empty airline seats and more empty hotel rooms. A lot of these are going to be dumped into their respective loyalty schemes. You want to be ready.

Comments (85)

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  • Erico1875 says:

    Although an MR point may be worth more due to flexibility than an Avios, with a few exceptions , i.e flights, you are going to earn 1.5 Avios per £ spent versus only 1 MR point per £ spent.

    • JDB says:

      @Erico1875 – the gold card gives you 1.5 MR up to £25k spend, albeit only in £5k clips and as you identify an extra point for FX or airline spend, so can be up to 3.5 MR/£. Currently extra 2,000 MR for £2k spend up to 1 October.

      • Erico1875 says:

        Thanks. Wasnt aware of that
        I assume the 2k will stack with the 5K?

      • TGLoyalty says:

        They also offered an extra 3 MR/£ for platinum referrals a few months back (up to 45k points) and then 2/£ more recently on gold (up to 18k points)

        So I’ve bagged an extra 63k aswell as the referral 50k for the 3 I’ve done so far this year.

  • Nick G says:

    Which Marriott in turkey are you at Rob?

    Currently at Reges in cesme for the second time. Although the required points is still up from two years ago, at a cost of buying £1800 worth of points versus a ridiculous £630/night cash price I’m pretty happy with that return

  • Mouse says:

    I enjoyed reading this – thank-you Rob

  • Dave says:

    With my chances of earning greatly reduced now I am still carefully sitting on points – 600k of IHG ones, 100k Marriott and 240k avios. All three I can get outsized value on in the area of the world I live, when I can buy at under what the points are worth to me I do.

    Yes a devaluation may screw me over a bit but I’ve also been able to take advantage of some great deals up to now…

    • HampshireHog says:

      This. If retired then your opportunity to earn points may be reduced so I disagree with Rob. Building up a war chest albeit with a risk of devaluation makes sense in some peeps circumstances

  • Paul Hickey says:

    I’d be very wary of anything Wizz offer!
    I was recently the victim of an over booked flight having travelled from Leeds to Luton. They gave me signed documentation for a €400 compensation which, after trying to claim back, they are saying “sorry, it should have been €200”. As it was declared as €400 at the time I took a train to Manchester, paid for a hotel and took a £300 last min easyJet flight to my destination. A scam!

    • TGLoyalty says:

      That document doesn’t exclude you from
      claiming for your statutory rights.

      Like duty of care for hotel or train and rerouting costs.

      MCOL will be your friend.

      • Lady London says:

        +1 as well as your travel and accommodation expenses for rerouting being claimable r
        from Wizz under your right of care UK / EU261, hold on to that bit of paper as that would have appeared to me to be voluntary compensation from Wizz which you accepted and bit of paper sounds like a contract.

        You’re entitled to right of care as well as compo and these are separate headings.

        Even if it does turn out there is some negative wording on that bit of paper the airline is supposed to inforn you of all your rights and in that case your signature didn’t seal the deal. So run the numbers, take close look and decide.

        On here there is commentary that Wizz can be difficult – JDB gave some really informative comments – but don’t let that stop you persisting. Wizz was warned relatively recently by the CAA to smarten up their adherence to the law on these pasenger rights.

  • Neil says:

    A great read Rob and mirrors elements of my own strategy which I’ve settled on over the last few years. As a solo traveller, I like to maintain a balance of around 200k in my Avios/Virgin Points accounts which gives you flexibility to jump on last minute opportunities, beyond that am happy to burn…

  • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

    Was it only March when they last changed the avios >>> nectar rate?

    Seems much longer ago than that.

    I know the list of “good things” isn’t comprehensive but to some being able to use avios to part pay a BA holiday so a good way to burn some miles especially at the lower levels when you can get a penny per avios in value. I recently used 2.5k avios to get £25 quid off a weekend in Amsterdam.

  • BJ says:

    A good read and plenty of food for thought. The notion though that ‘earn and burn’ and ‘wait and see’ are discrete strategies is too simplistic IMO. They are more properly perceived as having some fluidity and being part and parcel of the same strategy, the balance between them depending on the individuals ability to earn and their need/desire to burn. I appreciate the article sort of addresses this too but it is more implicit than explicit.

    Key here is the ability to earn which we discussed within the comments a few days ago. While I appreciate that you and some others can continue to build and sustain large pools of points on a rolling basis I believe this to be the exception not the rule. Too often the articles are more geared towards the exceptional earner rather than the typical earner when it comes to analyses and I feel this needs to be addressed in a more balanced way going forward.

    I believe for most readers it is a case of ‘wait and see what other opportunities come along while I earn sufficient points to burn on my goal’ because for most points have become too difficult to earn and too expensive to burn to maintain nest eggs to support primarily ‘wait and see’ strategies. This will be especially true for families who require huge amounts of points and who may often find their burning constrained by reward availability. Solo travellers will, depending on their ability to earn, have greater scope to pick and choose between a single strategy or a combination of strategies to suit their needs.

    For me my flights strategy has always been ‘earn and burn over Xmas and New Year by booking a year in advance’. My hotel strategy ‘earn and wait and see where I can burn at exceptional value where I want or need to go’ such as our upcoming trip to Portugal where we are getting over £3000 of SLH nights for 240k HH points.

    • Peter K says:

      I agree that earning is harder than it has been. The examples given by Rob are not necessarily ones that will continue, or that many could have taken advantage of (already have a MR amex so can’t get a sign-up bonus for example).
      The fact that many are paying a (to me) high price with avios boost and subscriptions to gain them shows that cheaper ways to gain a lot are vanishing.
      My stack of points in general are getting lower, not higher.

      • BJ says:

        Agreed, I think too that many have become so focussed on using their avios abd vouchers that the top up balances by whatever means without even exploring miles-earning revenue flights. In recemt months there have been some movement, the odd great cash deal heading East or West is no longer as rare as it was this time last year. After BA, the popular BAECvrewards amongst readers seem to be Aer Lingus going West, Iberia going South West, and Qatar and Finnair going East. Yet here we have an article that may sway some into ‘wait and see’ at a time when @Rob has hinted that sonething not so good is coming our way from Qatar. On short saving/holding for a goal is fine but jump fast and burn if something great comes along in ther interim.

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