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What does BA Gold give you that other oneworld Emerald cards don’t?

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With the changes to British Airways Club, many people have been looking to other oneworld frequent flyer programmes as alternatives.

(And, yes, we’ve now given up on BA backtracking to a large extent and will be publishing our overviews of the other key programmes.)

We usually say that British Airways Gold is the same as top tier status from Iberia, Qatar Airways, Finnair etc. This is pretty much true (all give you oneworld alliance Emerald status) but there are always nuances.

What does BA Gold give you that other oneworld Emerald cards don't?

A thread on Flyertalk this week looked at what you might miss if you go for, say, Qatar Airways Platinum status instead of British Airways Gold status. I thought it was a good idea for an article so I’ve summarised the discussion here.

Please note that this is a one-way article. I’m only telling you what you will lose (compared to BA Gold) when flying British Airways with another oneworld Emerald status card.

There is another side to it, because you may gain extra benefits when flying with the airline which issues your card. Earn Qatar Airways Platinum status, for example, and you can use the Al Safwa lounge we reviewed yesterday when flying in Business Class. You also receive Qcredits which you can use, for example, to buy additional lounge passes for friends and family.

What do you lose with oneworld Emerald status vs BA Gold when flying BA?

We’re not looking at the obvious benefits here (lounge access etc) which are standard across oneworld. It’s only British Airways-specific quirks that I am covering.

What you DON’T lose with oneworld Emerald:

  • access to the First Wing at Heathrow Terminal 5 – oneworld Emerald members can use this (image below)
  • free seat selection – any oneworld Emerald card gives you the same ability to book BA seats for free at any time
  • Row 1 seat priority – any oneworld Emerald card will allow you to book Row 1 seats in Club Europe and 1A / 1K in First Class (in First Class, only the cardholder can book 1A / 1K, in Club Europe everyone on the ticket can have a front row seat if one person is Gold)
  • Gold seat blocking – anecdotally it appears that oneworld Emerald members get the same seat block as British Airways Gold members (the seat next to them will show as taken until a certain occupancy level is reached)
What does BA Gold give you that other oneworld Emerald cards don't?

What you DO lose:

  • access to additional Economy Avios reward seats on British Airways flights – a BA Gold who searches for Avios seats will find that ‘V’ class Economy cash tickets are made available for redemption
  • ability to book Gold Priority Rewards (book ANY seat, any BA flight, for double Avios if booked 30+ days in advance) – although the value of this benefit has weakened substantially since it was restricted to the ‘lots of Avios + £1’ pricing option
  • no access to the Terminal 5 Arrivals Lounge when travelling in long haul Premium Economy or below – only BA and American Airlines top tier members can access this on Economy or Premium Economy tickets
  • lounge access with Vueling when flying from Gatwick
  • lounge access with Aer Lingus under some scenarios
  • access to the British Airways Gold telephone line – you can’t ring this line to discuss BA travel if you are, say, Qatar Airways Platinum, and (in my experience) it is usually answered quickly irrespective of what is happening on the main phone lines
  • arguably a oneworld Emerald will be treated worse than a BA Gold if passengers need to be upgraded or downgraded for operational reasons
  • 15% discount at The Wine Flyer (!)

Of course, for many people considering earning status with another oneworld airline, this list isn’t important.

There is no way they can spend £20,000 net of taxes (around £25,000 of business class tickets or £30,000 of economy tickets) so the only route to oneworld Emerald / BA Gold equivalent is via another programme.

Comments (60)

  • NorthernLass says:

    Re seat blocking for gold/emerald – (anecdotally) I am finding this is honoured more on AA and IB than BA!

    • Nico says:

      Think it depends how popular the destination is, I regularly get one going to Basel

  • Barrel for Scraping says:

    I got an offer from Revolut for £20 off ultra for the first 3 months. What do people here consider Ultra worth? It comes with a Dragonpass, do they also do airport restaurant discounts like PP?

    I don’t know who does Revolut marketing but they’re either a septic or a European who thinks the English use American date formats as apparently the expiry date for this offer is 5/4/2025 but I assume they mean 4/5/2025 (you’d think a bank would have a legal team checking the copy before it’s sent out)

    The main appealing thing for me is double Revpoints but I think the extra cost outweighs the points on their own so wondering what others think of the extra benefits. In theory I could ditch Amex and take this

    • Bagoly says:

      YYYY-MM-DD is the (surprisingly little used in UK or USA) solution that is univerally understood.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
      It also means that files and folders sort in chronological order.

      I have recently had to become ambi-something because I switch between computers that have to be set up as M-D and D-M respectively.

    • Bagoly says:

      There seem to be some English who think British = English 🙂
      And a “septic bank” is almost something else 🙂

    • Bagoly says:

      On your substantial point, I have decided that the hassle/risk factor with Revolut (capricious blocking and no humans on the help) outweighs the benefit of points for large amounts, so I am sticking to Wise.
      Their unhelpful attitude to reviewers such as HfP leans in the same direction.
      I did look at using them for just my USD spending, but the fee to get USD from Wise to Revolut outweighed the likely benefit.

      • Barrel for Scraping says:

        It seems crazy that Revolut try to block reviews that aren’t pre-approved by them. They’re probably losing lots of potential sign ups from here alone. Fortunately I’ve not had to deal with Revolut support but I just transfer money over to them in small batches from my main account

        • Inman says:

          I wouldn’t be a customer of any organisation that actively blocks reviews that are not pre-approved.

          • Rob says:

            You are aware that all of the major hotel chains delete the major of negative reviews submitted to their own platforms to keep up the average rating shown on the booking screen?

          • Nico says:

            Lot of people put reviews only when unhappy, so very hard they get unbiaised reviews. Surely removing all negatives not the right way.

      • Dawn says:

        @Bagoly Revolut stole £1000 from my account and this was before the ruling that they had to pay it back. The person phoning rang from the Revolut official number, the text message arrived from the official Revolut thread. When I complained, literally minutes after my account was emptied, they told me I should have contacted them on ‘chat’. But how was I to know who was on the end of the chat?? So I lost my money but realise after seeing the recent documentary, that I was incredible fortunate as many lost tens of thousands of pounds. I’m disgusted with Revolut and the way they behave – I would never recommend them. I also use Wise.

        • kevin86 says:

          “You are aware that all of the major hotel chains delete the major of negative reviews submitted to their own platforms to keep up the average rating shown on the booking screen?”

          Isn’t this illegal in eg the US unless they clearly state that only positive reviews are shown?

  • Throwawayname says:

    For anyone interested in oneworld status, you could do worse than paying Royal Air Maroc a couple of hundred Euros for their status booster. Apparently it’s possible to achieve OWS with one long trip in Y and OWE with two- though please do your own research as I have not crunched the numbers myself as oneworld status is about as much use for my flying patterns as a chocolate teapot.

  • Nick says:

    One other thing you potentially lose is meal choice onboard. In longhaul premium cabins crew are supposed to ensure that Gold/Emerald are given their first choice – they’re pretty good at ensuring Golds do (and many even extend it to WT even though they don’t technically have to) but most are sadly pretty bad at remembering that Emerald should be treated the same even though it’s in the service standards.

    Where systems are automated it’s better, e.g. if a flight is cancelled the auto-rebooking processes Emerald directly after Gold and before everything else. That won’t change as it can’t differentiate by carrier other than for BA, and they have to make sure AA customers are treated equally under the JB.

    • apbj says:

      Hmm. I used to think the same about meal priority but after a few recent poor experiences (including having no choice at all in F, travelling as a GGL) I would now disagree.

  • ADS says:

    another thing you lose is the dodgy BA IT … and the inability to setup 2FA other than when BA decide you warrant it!

    after Rhys’ Household Account breach, i’ve finally given up trying to get my sister’s account setup for 2FA … and have collapsed our Household Account … it was quite fun pressing the BIN button on her in the end!

    thank you to Rhys for highlighting the security risks of BA Household Accounts

  • yonasl says:

    I am recently finding that IB does not really match OW benefits. IB Silver members can add a bag while OW ruby cannot, IB Gold can invite a guest to fast track while OWS cannot, etc. BA Gold vs. OWE feels more balanced vs. what benefits BA provides its own elites. (Which is weird given the IAG shared owner)

    • riku says:

      >>IB Gold can invite a guest to fast track while OWS cannot, etc
      Correct, OWS cannot invite a guest to fast track. OWS don’t get fast track for the card holder, so certainly no guests can be added. OWE includes fast track access, not OWS.

  • RC says:

    No backtracking.
    Too soon.
    Yet.
    Took AA a year to see the error of its ways and fire some managers.
    Once Lacy and Laming are fired there’ll be an adaptation to changed times – with everything blamed on them (whether fair or not, that’s what BA/IAG excel at – blame gaming)

    • Rob says:

      The process has just started at Virgin Flying Club, so on that basis we need to wait 6 months from launch.

      • RC says:

        I don’t think any customer will miss Lacy or Laming. Sooner the better though I fear we will have to wait until 2026.
        The supposed customer experience manager has presided over the catering screw up, dirty late planes and the gutting of the rewards scheme. Worse, he’s got a reputation at GGL and prem events for being terse, think skinned, unable to take criticism and generally being unable to listen. Let’s see what happens: one thing Sean Doyle is accomplished at is giving managers responsibility but ensuring they walk the plank when they screw up with that responsibility.

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