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Virgin Voyages finally joins Virgin Red for full earn and burn …. but is it good value?

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One of the quirks of Virgin Red, the central portal for earning and spending Virgin Points, is that it does not cover all of the Virgin Group brands.

In fact, very few Virgin Group businesses are fully integrated, with Virgin Atlantic being the ‘anchor’ partner.

This is a function of how the Virgin-branded operations are set up, with Virgin Group usually only having a minority equity stake and sometimes none at all. There has been progress (Virgin Wines, Virgin Hotels and Virgin Active have joined recently with differing levels of integration) but there are still gaps.

Earn and spend Virgin Points with Virgin Voyages

Virgin Voyages has now gone live on the scheme, offering full earn-and-burn opportunities on all of its cruises.

This is good news because, unlike Virgin Wines or Virgin Active, you are likely to be dropping serious cash on Virgin Voyages given that the cruises retail for thousands of pounds. It adds a new way of earning a lot of Virgin Points.

Or does it?

What is the Virgin Voyages earn rate?

Unfortunately, although you’re likely to be spending upwards of £2,500 per person per cruise, you only earn a fixed 100 Virgin Points per sailor per night.

This is not a typo. You only get 100 points per person per night. This is a paltry contribution when you consider that a £2,500 Upper Class flight on Virgin Atlantic will earn you 10,000+ Virgin Points.

In contrast, a seven day Virgin Voyage for two will net you exactly 700 Virgin Points each. At our 1p valuation, these have a base value of £7 – and even that assumes you use them on premium Virgin Atlantic flights. They are only worth £3.50 if used for majority of Virgin Red redemptions.

There is even small print to restrict who qualifies for such generosity – only full-fare sailings are eligible, not discounted rates.

Even worse, the points won’t automatically drop into your Virgin Red account. You’ll be emailed a voucher at the end of your sailing which you will need to manually credit.

The Virgin Voyages earning page is on the Virgin Red website here if you don’t believe me.

Use Virgin Points for Virgin Voyages cruises

How many Virgin Points do you need for a Virgin Voyages cruise?

Let’s turn to spending Virgin Points on a Virgin Voyages cruise.

The days of sub-100,000 point sailings for two are long gone, sadly. Since covid, it appears that Virgin Voyages cruises have got steadily busier and it no longer needs to offer steep discounts to attract passengers for its new ships.

(New readers to HfP should know that, when Virgin Voyages was ramping up, it was virtually giving away cruises to Virgin Red members in order to fill the ships, make them look busy and generate positive word of mouth.)

On the flip side, Virgin Red now offers Virgin Voyages for redemption year-round, albeit at dynamically priced rates. Here are some examples:

  • 4-night Fire and Sunset Soirées from 305,000 Virgin Points 
  • 5-night Dominican Daze from 375,000 Virgin Points 
  • 7-night Portsmouth to Amsterdam and Bordeaux from 515,000 Virgin Points 

The pricing is for two passengers and includes itineraries for multiple dates, rather than fixed sailings. They book into Central Sea Terrace cabins (photo above) rather than the cheapest Insider cabins.

You can see the full list of sailings currently available here – you need to toggle the results to ‘Spend’.

Is it good value? Let’s do a comparison.

Here are the lowest and highest cash prices for the above itineraries for the remainder of 2025 and 2026:

  • 4-night Fire and Sunset Soirées from £1,634 to £1,943 for two
  • 5-night Dominican Daze from £2,043 to £2,504 for two
  • 7-night Portsmouth to Amsterdam and Bordeaux from £3,164 for two (2025 only)

The prices above include the current April/May Virgin Voyages promotion which takes 75% off a second sailor.

Using the highest cash prices available, it means you are getting:

  • 0.53p per point on the 4-night itinerary
  • 0.66p per point on the 5-night itinerary
  • 0.61p per point on the 7-night itinerary
Using Virgin Point for Virgin Voyages cruises

This is not spectacular value, particularly when you factor in that I have based it on the most expensive cruise in each category – often, you’ll find the cash fares a few hundred pounds lower.

In terms of overall value, it matches the value of ‘base’ redemptions such as wine or other partners on Virgin Red, most of which work out at 0.5p per point. It does not offer outsize value as you can find on Virgin Atlantic on a good day.

If you’re particularly price sensitive, you can find sailings even cheaper than the examples above. The cheapest cabins (generally the windowless ‘Insider’ cabins, pictured above) are as low as:

  • 4-night Fire and Sunset Soirées from £916 for two
  • 5-night Dominican Daze from £1,145 for two
  • 7-night Portsmouth to Amsterdam and Bordeaux from £1,638 for two

If you are not bothered about having a sea view and simply want to be on the ship, using cash for an Insider cabin is a better deal than using points for a Central Sea Terrace one.

Conclusion

Overall, whilst Virgin Voyages is a welcome addition to the Virgin Red family, there is definitely room to sweeten the deal.

The earning rate is desperately low – just 100 Virgin Points per person per day – which doesn’t get you very far. You’d have to cruise for 45 days (!) to be able to redeem for the cheapest Virgin Wines redemption, a ‘Premium Prosecco in Wooden Gift Box‘.

The redemption rate is, admittedly, competitive when compared to other non-flight redemptions across Virgin Red. However, there’s still plenty of room for Virgin Red and Virgin Voyages to improve redemption deals to drive bookings, particularly for off-peak sailings.

Comments (35)

  • Cathy says:

    Well virgins low redemptions at the beginning definitely worked at enticing people in – about to embark on my 8th VV – this only being the 3rd one I’ve actually paid cash for! There are bargains to be had, if you get lucky – I secured a rockstar cheeky corner for just £4,600, that’s for a 7 night sailing. I love the product but wont be spending 300k plus on a sailing.

    • executiveclubber says:

      Do you think £4,600 for 7 nights is a bargain?!

      • Rob says:

        Clearly these things depend on what you earn …. I think Tom Calahan told me that the average booking his wife’s one woman travel agency (Dorsia) processes is $100,000 / week.

        • Thomas says:

          Because high earners do not care about cost and value for money? Bit of a strange remark to make being the owner of a blog all about maximizing value whilst travelling.

          • No longer Entitled says:

            Cost and value are two very different things. It is entirely consistent to not care about cost but to care greatly about value.

          • Rhys says:

            Who says that £4.6k for a Virgin Voyages suite isn’t good value?

  • Tim S says:

    Is there such a thing as off peak sailings on cruises. Don’t operators deliberately move the ship around from region to region so as to be peak season in that region.

    • MandyB says:

      Yes, they are usually called repositioning cruises. Historically they are longer cruises with more sea days and less favourable weather. I’m just home from a 14 transatlantic crossing from San Juan to Barcelona.

    • Rhys says:

      They might move ships for specific seasons but not for Christmas holidays etc!

    • TimM says:

      Yes, the biggy is moving cruise ships between the Americas (mostly Florida, Brazil and Argentina) and Europe. They arrive in Europe in the European Spring and leave in the European Autumn. There is huge demand for Americans to cruise Europe in the Summer season and for Europeans to cruise the Caribbean or South America in their Winter.

      I have been on many repositioning cruises. The best are when it is a long-term change of bases, e.g. from the Far East to Europe (via India, the Middle East and up the Suez Canal), or the opposite direction, typically 24-28 nights and split into two back-to-back cruises with Dubai being the usual mid point.

      The exception is the Queen Mary 2, as the last-remaining ocean liner rather than a mere cruise ship, has a busy transatlantic schedule, a 3-month World cruise every year and never repositions.

  • m says:

    I wonder what the occupancy rate is. Really poor value. Slowly they’re becoming pesos

    • Rob says:

      Probably ok. You need to give VV credit – they are doing something different, took a risk and it was always going to take time to get the word out. Our readers are a tough crowd and have been won over, and are paying cash.

    • Chris W says:

      Is suggests the occupancy rate is high and the business is doing well.

  • Constant says:

    I think it’s worth mentioning that VV has its own loyalty scheme, that kicks in from the 3rd cruise and is somewhat more generous than a £3.5 voucher.

  • Bob says:

    Horrible value. These were 80k to 100k in previous year.
    Also I wanted to remind, Virgin is doing cash deals all the time. It’s easy to find weekly cruises for £1000.

    • Rob says:

      What’s amusing is that someone at Virgin Red posted the deal on LinkedIn and said that he’d spent a year negotiating this and getting it live – and its so bad they really shouldn’t have bothered.

      • The Savage Squirrel says:

        I always love how you sneak your less tactful version of your opinion into the comments 😆

      • Alex W says:

        *searches for culprit on LinkedIn*

  • Kiwi Abroad says:

    I see in the small print about redeeming points for VV cruises
    ‘This reward cannot be combined with any other offer, discount or credits (including airfare, bar tab promotions and/or premium drinks credits).’
    Does this mean, if you pre-ordered a bar tab, you wouldn’t get the Bonus Drink Credit?

    • Andy says:

      After you book a voyage with points, you can buy Bar Tab in the usual way via the ‘Manage booking’ section of your account. If they are offering an additional bonus bar tab with that purchase, you’ll get it. Any bonus will be displayed on the purchase page. What you won’t get is any additional perks that may be offered when booking a cash fare, such as $250 extra sailor loot or a $100 Bar Tab.

  • Londonsteve says:

    For me threshold for whether a cruise represents value is whether you can stay in a decent hotel and fund three meals a day for less while leaving some cash left over for moving between locations. It’s not a direct comparison as you’re likely to spend more time at a destination this way whereas you get multiple short tasters on a cruise. Also worth mentioning that the port areas will often offer nothing interesting to see and you’re bounced into paying for expensive shore excursions.

    • Andy says:

      Or take the (usually) free shuttle bus into town and do your own thing.

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