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Virgin Atlantic launches a reward seat sale on selected US routes

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Slightly bizarrely, because dynamic reward pricing means the price of a reward flight is meant to follow cash prices, Virgin Atlantic has launched a reward seat sale to the US.

Despite what airlines keep saying about travel to the US not being impacted by political events (‘and please don’t slash our share price target’) Virgin Atlantic has decided to cut the cost of economy reward flights by 20% during the peak summer travel period.

Flights are as low as 4,800 points each way.

Virgin Flying Club seat sale

The lowest pricing from Heathrow is:

  • New York JFK – 4,800 Virgin Points one way (also from Manchester)
  • Boston – 4,800 Virgin Points each way
  • Washington – 4,800 Virgin Points each way
  • Miami – 6,000 Virgin Points each way
  • Seattle – 7,200 Virgin Points each way
  • San Francisco – 7,200 Virgin Points each way

No other routes are included.

All ‘Saver’ seats have been reduced by 20%. A ‘Saver’ ticket is one which is priced at or below the points price under the previous reward structure. A New York ticket which was 12,000 Virgin Points last week will now be 9,600 for example.

These examples are all off-peak pricing. Pricing will be slightly higher on peak dates. The peak / off-peak calendar is here (click ‘find out more’ under ‘Saver seats’.)

You must:

  • book by 27th May
  • travel by 30th September

Taxes and charges start at £272 return for New York JFK.

This still isn’t necessarily a great deal

With cash tickets to the US under pressure, you still might not be getting a great deal even with a 20% discount.

Let’s take a random trip in early September.

In the current Virgin Atlantic sale, a return flight to New York JFK is £376 return.

The cost of a redemption, in the sale, is 9600 Virgin Points + £272.

You’re getting just over 1p per Virgin Point. This does hit our target valuation of 1p but its not knocking it out of the park.

On the upside, your redemption can be cancelled for £70 and includes a checked bag – the cash price I quoted is ‘hand baggage only’. On the downside, the cash ticket would earn some Virgin Points back.

That said, if you can get 1p per Virgin Point via this sale then you should be happy.

The Virgin Atlantic ‘Reward Seat Checker’ is here if you want to look for days with the cheapest prices listed above.

Comments (46)

  • paul says:

    Hopefully people won’t buy into this pretty poor offer (or any Virgin flights).

    Virgin are feeling the pressure after their devastating points devaluation and the general boycott of the US until the umpalumpa has left office.

    Make them suffer until WE their loyalty building customers are given a little respect and are not treated so poorly.

    They will backtrack if we make them.

  • Joe says:

    My 45k econ return to orlando first 10 days ish of summer holidays is still at 330k (and that’s being generous picking cheapest direct on each day!)

  • zapato1060 says:

    US to UK is a steal if you can get there with other points, 4,800 and $75.

  • BJ says:

    One has to wonder what Virgin loads are like. Two years ago reward seat sales were frequent and substantial, presumably to fill unsold seats. I’m not understanding what’s changed and happened to those ’empty’ seats since they moved to the new pricing model? I expected sales to continue as before yet this is the first (and limited) crack. Was it that there was always few empty seats and the endless sales were simply always about marketing and visibility?

    • Jim Utd says:

      @BJ what I’m seeing as a frequent VS flyer is full upper and premium cabins with half or two thirds taken in economy. Lots more US voices as well on the plane. Fact that the reward seat sale is specific to economy and only certain US routes supports that

      • GM says:

        Was just looking at the seat map for a US flight in a couple of weeks, and while I know they’re not the full story, that’s basically what I’m seeing too. Premium and Upper busy, economy sparse.
        Saw an airline insider type claim future bookings down by up to 40% for the US so will be interesting to see how it goes. My upcoming trip was booked before the change in administration and whether I visit family later in the year again or not will depend on what deals are available. Apart from politics, border control etc it’s also just expensive there now!

        • Numpty says:

          Interesting to read as IAG market update a couple of weeks ago said their forward bookings were in line with last year but at some point, gut feel, is that they will change what they say. Other comments (elsewhere) mirror what you say; that premium bookings holding up and economy bookings down.

      • BJ says:

        Consistent with the devaluation being primarily motivated by premium cabin revrnue protection. Seems to me that smart move would be to refit aircraft with larger UC and Premium cabins and reduce capacity in Y, at least for US routes.

        • chris w says:

          That’s actually a pretty smart idea for cabin refits right now. Thse 787s are so overdue for a refurb with those awful coffin seats they could try refitting them with 50% more J seats.

    • paul says:

      LHR-MIA last Saturday

      UC full – but that’s expected due to paid upgrades always filling empty seats.

      PE was only half full.

      I did a wander through EC and if it was 50% I’d be amazed, more like 40% full.

  • Tim P says:

    Following the devaluation, I cashed in my Virgin points and cancelled my Virgin credit card. Also, I’ve no desire to visit the US at this time. So no interest from me.

  • ChasP says:

    There is little or no corelation between price and points. I see most days the cheapest points flight is not the cheapest cash flight and similarly weeks when the cheapest cash flight is not the cheapest points flight
    I have no idea what the two algorithms are but they dont seem to be related at the bottom end

  • kevin86 says:

    The official data shows passenger numbers are down in international airports in the US since March. Unless that’s all down to Canadians, airlines are being “creative” in their use of data in their announcements (whilst not breaking any rules, it’s easily done)

  • Karl says:

    Interestingly, US to UK travel is down, which is also likely down to the UK political situation.

    • Rhys says:

      I doubt most Americans can even name our Prime Minister.

      • Danny says:

        They aren’t missing out on much 😂

      • Travel Strong says:

        Twice in recent years I’ve met Americans who thought Farage was PM, because that’s the personality they see broadcast on TV there.

    • CarpalTravel says:

      More likely finance related, with so much uncertainty at the moment. There must be a lot of existing bookings though, I am interested to see figures from Q3 onwards (in both direction).

    • kevin86 says:

      Overall travel numbers to the uk are pretty good

    • J says:

      Is it? Edinburgh is still full of loud Americans.

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