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News in brief:

Can you beat two tier points from a transatlantic flight?

Yesterday we showed you a screenshot from someone who had earned 3 British Airways Club tier points and 24 Avios from a one-way flight between London and New York.

There were snorts of derision from some readers …. who thought the person involved should have been grateful for doing so well.

Reader James sent in a similar screenshot from a London to New York economy flight.

As you can see, he managed to earn 13 Avios and 2 tier points, leaving him just 19,998 short of retaining his Gold status ….

Virgin Points / Clubcard conversion bonus launched

Virgin Red has brought back the exceptionally generous offer it ran twice last year for activating auto-conversion from Tesco Clubcard.

You will receive 5,000 bonus Virgin Points if you switch your Tesco Clubcard account to auto-convert points to either Virgin Flying Club or Virgin Red.

In addition, to celebrate Clubcard’s 30th birthday, one auto-converter will win 1 million Virgin Points. There’s also 100,000 Virgin Points for five runners-up.  Anyone who is already on auto-convert will be automatically entered.

5,000 Virgin Points is an exceptionally generous deal and there is no logical reason for not doing this if you qualify.

We’d value 5,000 Virgin Points at £50 if used for premium cabin flights, and in the worse case scenario you can order £25-worth of bits and pieces from the Virgin Red app.

Before you do anything, please note:

  • this bonus is for setting up a conversion into either Virgin Red or Virgin Flying Club – to go via Virgin Red, you will need to have downloaded the Virgin Red app to your phone and – if applicable – linked it to your Virgin Flying Club account to pool the points
  • you do not qualify for the bonus if you currently, or at any time in the past, have received a bonus for activating auto-convert into Virgin Flying Club
  • you will need to have 250 Clubcard points in your account on 20th July, which may require you to divert some of your supermarket or petrol shopping to Tesco in the next few weeks (1 point per £1 in-store, 1 point per 2 litres of fuel)

How do you set up your Clubcard account to auto-convert to Virgin Atlantic or Virgin Red?

To turn on auto-convert, you need to visit the Clubcard website here.

Sign in to your account and click on ‘Clubcard Account’.  Select ‘Clubcard Management’ and then ‘Voucher Schemes’.  From this page you can select the “Virgin Points” box to enable auto-exchange.

Here are the rules for getting the 5,000 Virgin Points:

  • you must not have received a bonus for turning on auto-convert to Virgin Flying Club in the past
  • you must activate auto-convert to Virgin Flying Club or Virgin Red by 20th July 2025
  • you must have at least 250 Tesco Clubcard points in your account on 20th July 2025, which is the next cut-off date for transfers to Virgin Points
  • you must keep auto-convert activated until at least 20th July 2025
  • your 5,000 bonus Virgin Points will be awarded later (usually 6-8 weeks)

Is it worth auto-converting Clubcard points to Virgin Points?

The days of lucrative offers from other Tesco Clubcard partners seem to be over.  5,000 Virgin Points is a VERY good incentive – you’d usually need to spend £2,500 in Tesco to earn £25 of Clubcard vouchers to receive 5,000 Virgin Points.

On this basis, assuming you’d only generate a few pounds of vouchers per quarter, you are far better off activating auto-convert for a while and seeing how it goes.

You can see details of this new Tesco / Virgin Points bonus on the Virgin Flying Club / Tesco Clubcard page here.

Earn double Virgin Points with Virgin Trains Ticketing

Earn double Virgin Points with Virgin Trains Ticketing

In 2021 Virgin Red launched a new way of letting you earn Virgin Points – its own train ticket booking platform called Virgin Trains Ticketing. It was originally part of the Virgin Red app but is now a standalone smartphone app.

It is a very simple structure:

  • you earn 3 Virgin Points per £1 spent
  • there are no booking fees

Until 30th June, you will receive double rewards – 6 Virgin Points per £1 spent. Your ticket can be for travel at any future date.

As long as the rail company you are using does not have exclusive discounts for users of its own website, you will be getting the same price as you would pay elsewhere.

Virgin Trains Ticketing also offers split tickets, so you could actually pay less than booking direct – although you may need to swap seats part-way through your trip. The company claims that split ticketing saves an average of £14.

However, at the moment LNER is offering 5% to 10% cashback on many American Express cards and some Mastercard / Visa cards. You can use the LNER website to book tickets for any train company.

Most Uber users will have an offer for 5% back in Uber credit for train tickets booked via the app, and this includes Eurostar.

If you don’t have access to an LNER offer, and especially if you don’t have access to a 10% offer, Virgin Trains Ticketing should be competitive.

Comments (74)

  • L Allen says:

    Just one typo on the BAC piece: the flight was New York to London, per the screenshot, but the article states the other direction.

    • Barrel for Scraping says:

      That’s quite significant. Also significant is the fare was in USD which indicates it was an outward flight and the rest of the points probably showed up in the return leg. This is the sort of ‘journalism’ I’d expect to see in the Daily Express. Accuracy matters

      • Richie says:

        Apply for refund of your HfP membership fee.

        • Barrel for Scraping says:

          Are you saying accuracy isn’t important?

          • Richie says:

            @BarrelforScraping What is being shown is 2 nTPs for a flight sector. If that isn’t accurate why is BAC showing this at all?

      • Pat says:

        To be fair to Rob he has a business to run and it can’t be easy finding stuff for 3 articles a day. No one on his team has any experience in fares and the intricacies of the GDS.
        “Travel Expert” Mr Calder wrote a whole article and even recorded a YT on the false premise that “seats were being held back for long haul connections” on a domestic flight that was just full. It’s pretty amazing that several posters here could get the load on that flight but Mr Calder either doesn’t want to or has no connections to verify his story.
        Marianna Spring levels of verification ;).

        • Rob says:

          It’s not about that. It’s about the optics of what it shows.

          • AJA says:

            Is it Rob? Or is it actually fair that you earn 2TP if the underlying fare for one sector is only £2? The reality is that there will be TP earning carrier imposed charges on top of that fare but they don’t get split equally between outbound and inbound fares. The total fare (for both outbound and inbound sectors) is what is important. That screen shot only shows part of the overall picture. See my post on page 1 which shows that the new scheme isn’t as unfair as you’re implying.

          • Rob says:

            It’s still optics – especially if its the outbound with the lowest earning since that will post days before the inbound posts.

            Get the optics wrong and you’re screwed.

            Loyalty well done is 90% psychology and 10% economics.

          • Pat says:

            Maybe they could figure out how to add half the YQ to the leg, but that’s not the default. If they award the full amount to the outbound it could undermine revenue pricing for one ways.
            LH are revenue based for miles for years and you can get very odd amounts posted for each leg, but when all legs post the correct amount of miles is credited.
            I assume UA do the same with their $1 plus YQ fares?

          • Richie says:

            @AJA Perhaps they need to ‘correct’ their carrier imposed charges game to suit their nTPs regime.
            I’m expecting Rob will get e mails in April regarding flights taken just before 31st March not having the appropriate nTPs posted until after a return sector taken in April and thus being short of a status requirement.

  • captaindave says:

    For entry into the virgin/Tesco competition, I have switched the virgin scheme back on from my clubcard account( had the bonuses previous) and done a couple of small conversions using clubcard points accumulated over last few weeks… if I have read t&c right, this gives entry to competition.

  • David S says:

    For reference, booking even the highest economy fare on Malaysian for local flights generates zero points if crediting to BA. You can be high status and sitting in Row 4 and it’s zero Avios. Credit to QR and you do get something however. But as it is mileage based it isn’t much. Learned the hard way- 8 flights on Malaysian in 2024 and zero Avios in total.

  • Tom says:

    As a data point, having previously converted from Tesco to Virgin Flying Club and received a bonus. I set up a new auto convert from Tesco to Virgin Red last year, when they ran this offer and got the full 5,000 bonus.

  • Oviplokos1 says:

    At least ba rounded 1.46 up, not down, effectively doubling number of tp.

  • Jumbletales says:

    I set this up for the first time in February (following the HfP article), met all the criteria but have not received the bonus points as yet.

  • Simon Castleman says:

    I did suggest to BA they should have an “iron pyrites” class of loyalty. Didn’t get an answer funnily enough

  • Pogonation says:

    Even if BA is lumping all the TPs and Avios onto the return sector this is still poor practice and should be fixed… if I booked an O return and then needed to change the return leg for whatever reason and all BA had was Y and the change was therefore going to cost thousands of £ I would be booking an alternative carrier home instead of making the change. I would be pretty pee’d off if all I got for my £500 spend was 2 TPs.. I should be getting half the fare and YQ equivalent!

    The scenario above is not uncommon and I occasionally do it for my employees. Sometimes it can be a change of £1500 but I can pick up a UA ticket for example for £400.

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