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Huge amounts of BA US First Class Avios availability released – for the next 45 days

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In our article on the Avios sale yesterday, we discussed some of the weird patterns that we had seen in Avios availability since an IT update on 1st July.

This initially led to no First Class seats being made available, anywhere.

As I said yesterday, availability had started to come back. Last night it came in a flood – but only for the next 45 days and only, I think, on US routes.

Huge amounts of BA US First Class Avios availability released

Here is a SeatSpy screenshot of First Class availability to/from New York, as at 10.30pm last night:

British Airways First Class Avios availability

There are a LOT of seats available on some flights. 6th August, for example, has 4 x First seats on one JFK flight and 5 x First seats on another, plus one or two seats on a further three flights.

Here is Boston:

British Airways First Class Avios availability

Here is Los Angeles:

British Airways First Class Avios availability

The pattern is similar on the other US routes with First Class (this is a HfP-created list, it may not be 100% accurate):

  • Atlanta
  • Boston
  • Chicago
  • Houston
  • Los Angeles
  • Miami
  • Nashville
  • New Orleans
  • New York
  • Pittsburgh
  • Portland, Oregon
  • San Diego
  • San Francisco
  • Seattle
  • Washington DC

However, when I used SeatSpy to look at non-US routes – Johannesburg, Dubai etc – there has been no mass opening of seats.

If this availability is still there when you read this on Friday morning, you may want to jump in if you want to give British Airways First Class a try this summer.

You can read more about British Airways First in our guide here, albeit this article is three years old. Note that the seat pictured at the top of this article is not actually flying yet!

Comments (74)

  • Paul says:

    Well I have looked at SFO SAN and others and there is nothing. I do get offered ” There is an error” ” “Our systems are bust try later” so its not all bad

    • Ben says:

      Are you using a VPN? I find it causes issues like that with ba.com – over and above all the other faults.

  • Littlefish says:

    Something has been very odd for a while (back to February) but now much more widespread. My Amex 2f1 (CW) availability is now zero even off-peak and across days of I9; whereas in previous years the Amex 2f1 was genuinely opening up a huge proportion of these same flights.
    And even up to a couple of weeks ago there was modest pockets of Amex 2f1 (CW) availability. Now zilch, except up to end August.

    • Christopher Sutton says:

      I’ve been saying this for a good while now and was knocked down by others because I was looking at more leisure routes but their strategy has definitely changed!

  • Paul says:

    New Orleans and Nashville don’t have first class do they?

    • Oliver says:

      I’m not seeing any F for Nashville.

    • Ben says:

      The aircraft varies quite a bit. So sometimes, yes. It’s been 777 and 781 recently. It’s the only flight between MSY and Europe and seems to have grown in popularity, with, it feels, the majority being Americans and Europeans connecting.

  • Anonymous says:

    OT, but when does summer booking for the following year (e.g., 2026) tend to open for avios bookings?

  • Alex B says:

    Was looking at First to Boston but then see the First is on the bottom deck of the A380. Who wants that?

    Any good options I can do on the top deck (which is worthwhile for Friday out, Monday back)?

    • Richie says:

      Not until the A380s are refurbed with F on the top deck and as the main picture.
      Some top deck J seats are ok, but BOS-LHR can be very short, you wouldn’t get much shut-eye.

      • Alex B says:

        Not really fussed about sleep, just want the chance to go on the top deck of an A380 before they retire (and we probably lose double decker planes for ever)

        • Tom says:

          On board a 380 you don’t really notice which deck you are on. It’s not like the bubble on the 747s which were much more desirable.

        • Dawn says:

          Best part is the huge toilets at the front of the plane on the top deck when flying business. Still the ying/yang seats but I’ve still enjoyed flying on the A380 as it’s very quiet.

    • LittleNick says:

      But on the 380 the F seat is substantially superior to the old Ying Yang J seat

    • 1ATL says:

      If it’s all about A380 top deck then why not just check out Eco availability? There’s an upper deck Eco cabin. You can also pay to secure seats here if you didn’t want to leave it to chance when check in opens.

    • Paul (another one) says:

      I don’t understand a buying decision based on top or bottom deck – it’s F with BA and the cabin feels spacious. obviously not in comparison to SQ F! You board first and see no one else all flight.

    • Alex B says:

      Thanks All,

      Ending up booking business out first back.

      The buying decision is because I’ve just always wanted to go on the top deck of an A380. Always been a dream of mine. I’ve got the MR/Avios and it never gets spent, so might as well use it.

      170,000 + £800 seemed worth it to fulfil that dream.

  • Erico1875 says:

    Looking on Seatspy. Lots short haul reward availability been added since yesterday. Looked at Alicante,Larnaca and Malaga

  • W says:

    For someone who rarely flies with BA, what are differences between BA first and business?

    • Anna Bh says:

      A few things – depends whether is from Heathrow but if it is access to Concorde room/first wing. Superior food and wine/spirits. Much smaller cabin/more space. I think are some reviews of first on here if you search?

    • Paul (another one) says:

      The brutal answer to that was Mrs S’ comment coming off LHR SEA was “oh was that First?”
      And to some extent she’s right. It’s a slightly better ground experience (certainly at LHR; and some US airports), it’s a little better food and drink and a bit bigger seat and space.
      OTOH you can tell all your friends you flew “for free” in F and had unlimited food and drink etc.

      • Throwawayname says:

        I have to say that I have never felt any desire to try out BA F, it just seems so mediocre. I have flown LH F a couple of times, not in a rush to repeat that either. A solid 21st century business class product (and I don’t just mean the EVAs and SQs of the world, I’ve really enjoyed flights on the TAP A330neo and IB A350) is a great way to travel. I have enjoyed one flight in OZ F when it was a thing, but I see that class as extremely hard to get right – from my perspective, it’s very tricky to have a product which doesn’t feel pointless, gimmicky*, or(/and) over the top.

        * As an example, when flying LH out of GRU, F pax can ask to get escorted from check in to the lounge where they’ll be taken to a table with a little card saying ‘RESERVED FOR [NAME]’ in the middle of the standard lounge overflowing with people who spend 500 reais a year on a credit card subscription. I think that rigmarole is embarrassing for everyone involved, I would much rather make my own way.

        • JDB says:

          BA F is a quite bit better than mediocre in absolute terms but relative to ME or Asian airlines is absolute rubbish in every regard. However, it is just so much better than Club World where BA is completely unable to manage serving its vast Club cabins, the food and wine are shocking and there are an inadequate number of loos which aren’t properly cleaned. Even the newish Club seats are looking tired and F totally exhausted.

          Whether in First or Club, you need to bring your own cleaning materials as the seat, table and surrounds will invariably be dirty and the bed full of previous passenger detritus. Apart from that, it’s all lovely.

      • masaccio says:

        CCR is a vastly better ground experience compared to the Galleries lounges., especially without status. I agree the F seat versus CW Suite is not so big, but CCR is very nice.

        • masaccio says:

          The difference is ‘not so big’ I meant

        • Throwawayname says:

          I haven’t been to the CCR, but I’m sure it will be better than the BA business lounges at LHR which are a disgrace (or at least have been whenever I visited them, and that’s also why I don’t visit them regularly and won’t be among the first to know of any improvements).

          But it’s obviously not available for arriving passengers… and anyone connecting at that airport, there may have a lack of opportunity (and possibly even desire!) to spend time in the lounge there. Needless to say, they’ll likely have only gotten access to a plain old Priority Pass facility at the origin airport…and if one is in that situation, they’re probably better off choosing another airline’s (including Iberia’s) business class instead of BA F.

          • JDB says:

            I don’t think the BA lounges are actually that bad relative to European or US competition. The CCR is very overrated with the quality of its drinks being the saving grace and it’s quieter than Galleries First.

          • Throwawayname says:

            @JDB , I don’t know about about the USA, but the only major lounges in Europe that are anywhere near as bad as the BA ones are the KLM ones at AMS. Virtually everything else is at least really good at something, e.g. SEN lounges have high quality spirits and Lavazza coffee, Aegean offer amazing snacks and great Greek wines, Brussels Airlines have the Neuhaus chocs and this great shower, AF have massively improved the design and capacity of their CDG lounges, the IB ones have good wines and lots of natural light, TK have round the clock opening and lots of fresh food etc. BA (and KL) have lounges which are uninspiring and don’t excel at anything, and crowding, cleanliness and even mice can be real issues too.

        • meta says:

          CCR is not nice, at best it’s average, but if you’ve never been to any other F lounge then it might be so.

    • Paul says:

      Manage you expectations. It’s a very good J+ but nothing more

  • Tom says:

    Looking at SFO to LHR in these few weeks, one way, I notice something:

    An award flight on BA in F is 100,000 Avios plus a massive $1,200 or so in fees! An award in J, if you can find it, for a peak day is also 100,000 Avios but the fee is “only” $475.

    In the past I have successfully upgraded from J to F for less than $725!

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