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Virgin reduces Upper Class points cost to New York and Orlando; big increases elsewhere

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Ever since Virgin Atlantic moved to ‘dynamic pricing’ for flight redemptions last year, the cost of Upper Class has been out of reach for most people.

I know that Virgin Atlantic is happy with the increase in people booking Economy redemptions, now priced from just 6,000 Virgin Points each way.

I also know that there is disquiet at the company about the removal of Upper Class as a realistic redemption option on most routes, especially the effect on those who are Upper Class cash flyers.

cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

Over the last few weeks, however, some routes to the United States have come down sharply in price.

It’s not all good news – some non-US routes have seen INSANE price rises for Upper Class seats, if the cost wasn’t already high enough.

We can prove this by repeating the experiment I did at the end of May using an online tool, vseats.io. This tool scrapes the Reward Seat Checker page of the Virgin Atlantic website and lets you manipulate the data. It’s really rather clever.

The analysis we did in May is here and looked at a few different scenarios. To allow comparison, I am using vseats.io to look at one thing and one thing only:

“For a 7-day holiday over the next 11 months, how much is the 50th cheapest day to fly?”

I thought ’50th cheapest’ was an acceptable compromise. The very cheapest dates are usually when you don’t want to travel (eg New York in January) and taking the 50th lowest priced departure date weeds out a lot of that. It’s probably comparable to off-peak Avios pricing.

Of course, you still need flexibility when you travel to take advantage of this pricing. If you are tied to school holidays, or even tied to Saturday-to-Saturday holidays, you will pay more – often a LOT more.

Not all Virgin Atlantic routes operate 365 days per year. In such cases, the 50th cheapest date will be higher up the price range.

cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

Let’s compare Upper Class pricing today with eight weeks ago

Let’s look at Upper Class return pricing from London Heathrow for a seven night stay, searching across the full 11 month booking window.

Because of the way the system works, we can only look for the price of one seat. Do not assume you can book a couple, and definitely not a family, at these rates.

The ‘WAS’ pricing is what was available exactly two months ago.

Here are the results from vseats.io. For routes not listed, there has not been a substantial price change in Upper Class.

Five routes with the biggest percentage price drop

Orlando

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 271,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 92,000 Virgin Points

There has been a HUGE cut in the cost of Upper Class redemptions to Orlando. I suspect this is because it is primarily a family route and at 250,000+ points per person, no families could afford to book. There are a surprisingly large number of dates when you can do a week for 58,000 points return.

New York JFK

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 123,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 76,500 Virgin Points

There has been a sharp fall in the cost of Upper Class redemptions to New York. I suspect this is down to the reduction in overall US travel demand.

Atlanta

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 207,500 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 138,000 Virgin Points

Another steep drop.

Washington DC

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 134,000 Virgin Points + £868
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 115,000 Virgin Points

Another drop, although not as steep as New York.

Boston

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 165,000 Virgin Points + £1,043
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 139,000 Virgin Points
cheapest and priciest Virgin Upper Class redemptions

Five routes with the biggest percentage price rise

Bengaluru

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 64,000 Virgin Points + £568
  • TODAY: 50th cheapest departure day – 290,000 Virgin Points

Something has gone weird here. Eight weeks ago Virgin Atlantic was acting like it couldn’t give away Upper Seats to Bengaluru. As of last night, the cheapest 7-night trip bookable over the next 11 months is 221,000 Virgin Points return.

Lagos

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 81,000 Virgin Points + £694
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 257,500 Virgin Points

It wasn’t on my bucket list, admittedly, but this is a shocking increase in Upper Class redemption pricing.

Dubai

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 217,000 Virgin Points + £819
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 535,000 Virgin Points

This is crazy talk. The absolute cheapest price for a 7-night Dubai flight in Upper Class is currently 289,000 Virgin Points – eight weeks ago there were 50 departure dates at 217,000 points or fewer (which, itself, is a mad price).

Delhi

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 116,000 Virgin Points + £754
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 209,000 Virgin Points

Mumbai

  • WAS: 50th cheapest departure day – 77,500 Virgin Points + £813
  • NOW: 50th cheapest departure day – 117,000 Virgin Points

Conclusion

When I was doing some digging last week and saw the fall in New York Upper Class flight costs, followed by an email from a reader flagging the big cuts in Orlando pricing, I thought that Virgin Atlantic had seen the light.

Unfortunately, this isn’t the case. The downward moves have been matched – in fact exceeded – by increases elsewhere. The fact that there is not a single day in the next 11 months where you can book a 7-night trip to Dubai in Upper Class for less than 289,000 Virgin Points per person is shameful.

If you had been thinking about New York, Orlando or Atlanta, however, now is a good time to book.

Comments (116)

  • The Savage Squirrel says:

    I thought I’d let it shake out before deciding anything for definite.

    After the shakeout … it’s bye-bye Virgin+ credit card from me and move the entire balance to Hilton. I’m sure there are some sweet spots in the depths of the partner award charts but availability and pricing just don’t work for what I want and need and I’m way too far away from retirement and offspring exodus to sit it out until I can be all flexible. Bit of a shame but I’m sure I’ll enjoy the hotel stay and will save a few £100s not paying the credit card fee so there’s that.

    • Rob says:

      Here’s my plan. I have 500k and two vouchers. In December I will hit Silver due to 2 UC redemptions in a year. This lets me bail out the balance with a 300k contribution from vouchers which should be good for something for 4 people.

  • andrew says:

    As a long term customer and gold for life member, I have seen many changes over the years, but this ‘dynamic gouging’ is possibly the most egregious to date.
    I have an unused pile of some 500k plus mils, and will have to work hard with alternative carriers to use them meaningfully.
    I now also actively sought alternative carriers for my revenue tickets as I find their treatment of loyalty insulting.
    Who in their right mind would claim that half a million miles is fair value for ANY route?
    We should collectively also stop pretending that anything over 100k is reasonable, fixed mileage seats need to be restored at fair and sensible levels so people can actually aim at and achieve mileage seats in exchange for their continued loyalty.
    VA you have become a laughing stock joke with your supposed fair pricing polices, we are unconvinced.

    • Rob says:

      Hard to argue when you are looking at £1000 of taxes and charges on top of the mileage.

      Should say that I asked Ben Lipsey of Flying Blue once if anyone did recent 1 million miles for KLM flights (they make Virgin look reasonable) and he said very occasionally it happened. He didn’t say if it was from hacked accounts or not 🙂

      • HampshireHog says:

        Hopefully this omnishambles has given BA pause for thought? So maybe some good will come out of it?

        • memesweeper says:

          The trend in loyalty is towards “our points have X value and can be used for anything” and away from “get eight stamps and the next one is free”.

          BA may yet double down on it’s prior bad decision.

    • Evelyn Shaw says:

      Where’s the thumbs up like button? Well said, Andrew.

  • babyg_wc says:

    did BLR last year, and just completed a LAX/JFK open jaw all in upper/points. Some bargains to be had if flexible, but its nowhere good/easy as it used to be. Flexibility is your friend. PS the JFK clubhouse is rubbish, but the JFK delta one is amazing!

  • Mike says:

    The upper class flights to JFK I booked last month for Jan 2026 have gone from 76500 points and £867 to 180000 points and £1042!

  • LittleNick says:

    VS surcharges are just silly in upper and off putting for me anyway. Would rather redeem elsewhere

  • Guy Incognito says:

    The miles are absurd but the fees / taxes are just egregious. Over £1k?!

    Comparison with my upcoming West Coast flights on BA cost me £475 (still obscene).

    • Throwawayname says:

      As per previous comment, I paid £145ish in taxes and charges for an one-way premium economy ANU-LHR sector. Leveraging this dynamic lark isn’t that different to studying redemption charts looking for sweet spots.

      It’s basically the same thing as e.g. refusing to pay 20k miles instead of buying a revenue ticket within Europe. Provided that the points don’t expire, you can be selective and only use them as and when you can get a good deal for a journey.

      • Nico says:

        It is different as can change several times a day, not about availability.
        Maybe seatspy or similar will add number of points in alert soon and then it would become closer.

  • Jack says:

    I only pay 29k for UC… who’s actively paying these obscene numbers?

    • LittleNick says:

      Please tell us the route and cash fees?

      • Matt B says:

        LHR to MCO in March. 29k to 35k each way. 650 charges a d taxes

      • Jack says:

        29k is all East Coast routes… obviously you gotta be flexible. If you are fairly strict with dates, then well…

        But Virgin is just a back up for me and I’m doing them when I can hit those low saver prices, or within my voucher budget.

        Taxes are static… so huge. Thus why I’m not wasting points too.

    • The Original Nick. says:

      I’m not. I used 26k points and paid £151 taxes for UC. Flying 28th September.

  • Jay says:

    I was VS Gold and now ditched them since dynamic rewards. Not worth the points and taxes. Credit card also cancelled. I was BA Gold. Also stopped since they raised the threshold to offer mediocre service, inconsistencies and average lounge. Next flights are with EY, QR and SQ in J. No chasing status. Just value for money. BA and EZY for Europe and priority pass or purchasing a decent bottle of fizz at caviar house. Far better value than justifying self spend of £20K+

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