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BA CEO expects no reduction in elite British Airways Club members

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Ten days ago, IAG (owner of British Airways, Iberia, Aer Lingus and Vueling) announced its first half results for 2025.

I won’t bore you with all the details, just to say that it is doing well, with a 44% increase in operating profit to €1.9 billion. Passenger numbers fell (IAG’s load factor was down 0.9%) but were offset by higher fares and lower fuel costs.

Scattered amongst the financials were some interesting tidbits about British Airways, including how The British Airways Club is doing and what is going on behind the scenes with regards to the IT upgrades that have been touted for years.

BA CEO expects no reduction in elite British Airways Club members

Have The British Airways Club changes affected the airline?

I don’t think I need to repeat our own views of the changes that have happened to The British Airways Club, which by now most of you should be familiar with!

The move to revenue-based tier point earning and the new tier thresholds have led to much gnashing of teeth, not just for Head for Points readers but also more widely, with The Times, Telegraph and many other publications bemoaning the changes and how they affect you.

That said, Sean Doyle says the changes have not materially affected the airline’s overall revenue, although it’s arguably too early to tell:

“Our Club revenue is performing in line with our broader network. So there is no discernible difference between the revenue coming through people who are members of the Club and the revenue coming through our wider network, and it’s growing in line with the capacity that we’ve expanded the airline by.”

It will be interesting to see what happens early next year, particularly from the 1st May 2026 onwards. This is when anyone who earned status under the old system but cannot make it under the new revenue-based model will be downgraded.

Once the key benefits of booking BA – lounge access, seat selection, priority services etc – drop away, will these customers continue to push revenue to British Airways?

What is interesting is that Sean Doyle has confirmed they do not expect to see a big change in the membership levels across the tiers.

This is in contrast to speculation online that the changes were, in part, a way of reducing the overall burden of memberships. Anyone hoping for quieter Heathrow lounges following the changes will be disappointed.

Here’s what Sean Doyle had to say regarding the changes:

“I think we are in a transition phase. What we are seeing is people who were booking high-quality revenue in Holidays are getting tiered earlier, and we expect our tier sizes to be broadly at the same level they were pre-change, but there will be some people who get in there who didn’t used to get, and some people will drop out who were in those tiers historically. So that’s part of the transition that we are forecasting and expecting.”

Fundamentally, a deliberate decision was taken to ‘fire’ some customers and replace them with higher spending ones.

The key is whether giving status to people who previously spent a lot of money but not in the right way will make them spend even more. After all, these people were clearly happy to spend in the first place without the status carrot. British Airways has clearly lost revenue from some people who know they will lose status.

It is also worth noting that BA has a habit of rolling over elite status for selected members who were going to lose it, if it looks like it will be a little thin in certain elite tiers. This isn’t just a BA thing – most airline and hotel groups do the same. If too few people earn Gold, it’s not an issue to roll some over which also helps reduce pressure on the Club lounges.

It’s all about British Airways Holidays

Reading between the lines, the biggest incentive British Airways has is to supercharge its BA Holidays division. Packages are far more profitable for airlines as they can bundle up flights, hotels and more in a single booking, increasing margins in a capital-light way. Compared to selling flights this is a lucrative market.

Although IAG does not break down revenue for British Airways Holidays, it did move the division to IAG Loyalty last year, the group’s high-growth but capital-light (let’s forget The Wine Flyer for a minute!) department.

With aviation capital intensive and highly competitive, it’s clear that IAG sees its future more akin to the US airlines, where profit-making loyalty divisions effectively subsidise the airline operations. With UK credit card margins so low, however, it is never going to become Delta, which receives $2 BILLION from American Express every three months.

One of the changes to The British Airways Club was to increase the incentives to book BA Holidays by uncapping the maximum number of tier points you can earn.

According to IAG Loyalty CEO Adam Daniels, the changes do appear to be having an affect:

“We are seeing an increasing number of the BA Club members start booking British Airways Holidays, and we’re seeing that in terms of the quality of revenue that’s coming as a result. So certainly, those people that are doing that are increasing their chances of retaining and, in fact, going to the next tier as well.”

It’s not clear if those people booking actually understand the new tier point system though. The lead booker does NOT get the tier points – they are spread equally across all passengers including children. Not giving a BA Club number for the other passengers doesn’t change things – the points are still split with non-members losing their share.

Even spending £20,000 with British Airways Holidays would not be enough to obtain Silver status if two adults and two children were travelling.

The only loophole is to book a holiday for one person and book separate flights for other passengers. This appears to be so prevalent that a warning has been added to the BA Holidays T&C about what will happen to you if this is discovered. Booking a room that can sleep four people and only one flight is likely to be a red flag ….

Dynamic pricing and BA’s digital transformation

Sean Doyle has long been talking up the airline’s investment in IT and digital infrastructure, some of which is over 25 years old and in dire need of modernisation.

A new website and app (coming later this year or early 2026) is the most visible part, but BA has also just completed a major behind-the-scenes upgrade of its revenue management system. (Not entirely smoothly – Avios availability has been all over the shop for several weeks, in both good and bad ways.)

Three upgrades have taken place recently:

  • The new revenue management system, which went live in early July
  • A new check-in system, moving from BA’s propriety FLY system to the off-the-shelf Amadeus system
  • A new payments platform

All three are “critical enablers of the broader digital transformation”.

BA CEO expects no reduction in elite British Airways Club members

In terms of what that means for you, the customer, you should expect to see more options to upgrade and more flexibility in how BA prices its flights.

“One of the big benefits of new revenue management system is our ability to implement what we call dynamic pricing. So historically, airlines would be limited to the number of letters in the alphabet in terms of inventory buckets.

And our ability to do trade-up pricing between those selling classes was relatively – I wouldn’t call it clumsy, but limited. Now we can put a lot more step-ups and trade-ups into our pricing ladders. And it’s too early maybe to give you an assessment of the impact. We’re only trialling it for the last three weeks, but my teams are very excited about its potential.”

Airlines were the pioneers of dynamic pricing based on demand, which is why the same flight can cost vastly more or less on different days. What Sean Doyle refers to here is the airline’s ability to offer seats at different prices, with much more granular control. This will allow the airline to step up pricing on an almost seat-by-seat basis rather than in large fare blocks (‘10 seats at £50, next 10 seat at £75’ etc).

“So broadly speaking, we’re on track. We’re very happy with the rollouts that we’ve implemented. And in terms of our kind of expectations versus our original plan, we’re where we need to be.”

Other bits ….

A few more interesting updates I thought worth sharing:

  • The new Avios partnership with LeShuttle, announced two months ago, has resulted in more than 26,000 Avios bookings made and 15 million Avios earned in that period
  • IAG says the new BA lounges in Miami and Dubai are expected to open by the end of the year, well behind schedule, as are unspecified “lounge upgrades at our hubs”
  • British Airways on time performance has increased by 7.7% since last year, to 83.2% of all departures leaving within 15 minutes of the scheduled time. Iberia still leads the group with an average of 89.8%.
  • The half year report says “As of 29 July we are 57% booked for the second half”. Coincidentally, the cut-off was just after BA concluded the most aggressive Avios redemption sale we have seen since the pandemic, with 40% to 45% off many routes.

Comments (165)

  • Lee says:

    My ba flight got cancelled late last night. Were on the bus for over an hour on the tarmac. Kept us on the bus so that the competing better SWISS flight was gone as well. No hotel offered. Had to go back home. Flight rebooking was for a flight late the next day. So no business meetings today… Absolute shambles.

  • The real Swiss Tony says:

    Looking at a very small sample set, I’m not seeing the same great value options coming up on BAH than I used to, either…

    • Rich says:

      I was looking at ski flights / hotels for January – there’s nothing like the inventory there used to be at this time of year.

  • Patrick says:

    The transition from FLY to Amadeus Altea started being discussed back in…2017!

    • Devn says:

      The switch to using Altea was announced in May 2024

      • Pat says:

        Customising Altea with FLY is so very BA. Altea just wasn’t good enough for the Luxury, but in their infinite wisdom to be smart they ended up breaking it and making it useless and lost tens or even more millions.
        How do they scan BP’s now at BA lounges? Offline scanner?

  • M says:

    I have tried BA hols for a holiday next year. It would not give me the rooms that I could book directly with the hotel. also if I did a part stay (I.e. hotel was only part of the trip ) the hotel I wanted wouldn’t show. It was clunky to say the best

    • Tracey says:

      You can force other room types by phoning BAH. If they do the hotel, they will be able to do all available room types.

      • Jonathan says:

        BAH can have very poor choice of hotels, when I went to Rio De Janeiro in 2019, there was only one hotel in city, however it was away from all the tourist areas. The only other one was far away from the city

  • JDB says:

    I’m not sure that anything Sean Doyle said was remotely unexpected or new news.

    The apocalyptic commentary at the time of announcement of the BAC changes about killing the scheme and empty lounges including the suggestion that BA wanted this to be able to save cost by handing back space etc. was absurd. BA will lose some of the unduly cheap qualifiers (and probably now the noisiest complainers) who won’t be missed as disproportionate users of services with little return. It’s a frequent flyer scheme, not a loyalty scheme!

    They will obviously lose a few customers going off in a huff but many will still fly BA whilst crediting to another OW scheme and others, also as predicted, will just fly or pay more to qualify including via BAH.

    • Paul says:

      How can you be both an “unduly cheap qualifier and disproportionate user?” That makes no sense!

      • JDB says:

        @Paul – those people are the ones not spending much after cheap qualifying (as advertised in newspapers) that are excess lounge dwellers, taking front row seats early, calling the Gold line endlessly and upsetting those actually spending the money to qualify.

        • Captain Haddock says:

          I like to base these sorts of conversations around facts. So, it would be great if you could let us all know how much the “excess lounge dwellers” make up of the customers in the lounges – ideally a breakdown for Club / First / Concorde?

          Also, “calling the Gold line endlessly” – please could you provide a reference point that validates the “unduly cheap qualifier” has a higher call / flight ratio than those other customers you deem deserve their access to such a phone line?

          What is this “cheap qualifier” level too? When does one reach a non-cheap qualifier level? Do you have a £ figure in mind / number of journeys / long haul vs short haul?

          If these “cheap qualifiers” are taking up so many front row seats that this has become an issue for you, they are obviously travelling quite a lot – are these then frequent flyers – which you say the scheme is for…

          • Willie says:

            I think this is fair, and I used to be one of them.

            Those who would renew for £2k and plan TP runs have far too much time on their hands. They know all the tricks, make trivial complaints, and extract every drop of value out of everything.

            Those renewing for £20k likely have more important and valuable things going on in their lives to bother with all of that.

          • JDB says:

            @Captain Haddock – ask BA management, they will confirm everything I have written. I also never said it was issue for me as you state in your last para.

            If you don’t believe me, @Willie concurs and if you read HfP regularly you will read endlessly about all the overuse of status benefits amongst those who boast how little they paid for status.

      • JohnG says:

        I don’t agree with their wider point but you could get status quite easily from a single premium trip, chosen for maximum TP for cost, and a handful of cheap economy seats before the change. You could then be using lounges etc on another 30 economy flights booked on the cheapest fare. This sort of flyer would fit that definition.

        BA making changes to address this is fine IMO, but it feels like they’ve considerably overcorrected.

    • JDB says:

      PS – was there really “much gnashing of teeth” in The Times or Telegraph? Or the FT? While some negative comments were included for balance, the net tone felt relatively matter of fact and neutral and I suspect therefore disappointing to those convinced there would be huge public pressure for BA to backtrack.

        • JDB says:

          I saw that article at the time. It’s hardly a “gnashing of teeth” though. One passenger is quoted making a very mild comment and it’s reported that thousands of passengers will turn their back on BA. The press isn’t really sensing this is big news.

          While a specialist site like HfP and particularly a few of its commenters lean towards the apocalyptic and have been predicting the killing off of the scheme (as indeed was the case when BA moved to revenue based Avios earning) I don’t think that’s remotely where the consensus is amongst BA’s passengers.

          • Phil G says:

            It’s not the Avios earnt that gets you silver or gold status is it though. While everyone still has status the effect will be minimal, in a couple of years booking with BA to maintain status will no longer be the first thought for a lot of people.

          • JDB says:

            @Phil G – I do know that it isn’t Avios that earns you status! However, when BA moved to revenue based Avios earning, many here predicted that would be the end of BAEC (as it then was) but that too was nonsense. My general point is that the outside the HfP/status bubble all these changes aren’t seen as being quite as dramatic as painted but more, “so what”.

          • JR says:

            100+ negative comments on the telegraph article definitely feels like teeth gnashing to me. How many samples do you need before it starts to estimate the entire population?

          • JDB says:

            @JR – is a 100 negative comments on Telegraph many? It doesn’t sound like it but such comments as there are almost certainly something of a bubble/echo chamber like specialist sites such as this. 100 comments (with some I suspect being repeat ones by the same poster) is tiny in the BAC universe let alone the “entire population” that you reference. Clearly the losers from this scheme are being very vocal but they are neither so numerous nor likely to be the ones BA cares about. The scheme has been amended to reward BA’s highest spending passengers and jettison freeloaders which seems not only to make commercial sense but also appeases those highest spenders.

      • Rob says:

        BA already backtracked by adding back segment qualification – which is the worst possible thing they could have done if the lounges are too busy – and extending the bonus points offer.

    • TJ says:

      By definition, a frequent flyer scheme IS a loyalty scheme.

    • Andy Davies says:

      I fly BA long haul business a couple times of year for work reasons… the only real benefit of status for me was I didn’t get ‘nickel and dimed’ for seat selection

      Now I probably won’t earn status so BA are going to charge me for seat selection… stuff that for a laugh I’ve just switched carriers instead

  • Paul says:

    Well this ex gold card holder never booked BAH and still won’t . I am now silver and have zero TP and that should remain the case going forward. I continue to fly Short Haul BA as they have a monopoly on domestic flying. I will try to maintain one world sapphire status via cheaper programmes such as AY but wherever possible I will avoid BA long haul other than by redemptions.

    Personally I think spending north of £20k a year for a gold card is mad and Doyle deluded to think it won’t reduce numbers. That said the bonus TP and complimentary memberships will no doubt allow them to claim that numbers haven’t changed. A bit like newspapers who give away free copies and count them in circulation figures.

    I will admit however that punctuality has noticeably improved, even if other aspects of service continues to decline.

    • JDB says:

      So no change from BA’s perspective then! The £20k (net) isn’t really a difficult spend target for regular long haul (business) premium travellers. But who really cares about Gold anyway?

      I would be very confident SD is about right about the numbers, but obviously the make up of passengers will be very different and better for BA.

    • Jonathan says:

      The whole point about the new TPs was clearly to reduce the number of people having Gold and Silver level status, due to lounges being crowded, also them not making any money out of seat reservation fees from status holders.
      It’s fair to say that BA knew there was major problems with the old system when one could pick Gold status by only spending around £3k, those sorts of numbers in premium cabins is pennies in profits BA is making, also didn’t help by someone being able to hit Silver by flying (return) to Southeast Asia (or just about wherever in the continent, and AUS / NZ) with QR, having picked up a fare in a sale, then doing a weekend holiday, and being able to hit Silver with just two bookings both fares being potentially far lower than usual.

      BA were very much aware of how the number of status holders would drop (or had a very good projections) by implementing the changes to way it’s obtained

      • JDB says:

        @Jonathan – I don’t think it was about significantly reducing Gold/Silver numbers but more to change the makeup of them by upping the ante to retain and reward only the higher spending ones.

  • Paul says:

    I’m not sure I trust the modelling that says they will see no change in tiers numbers. I suspect it is too early for them to tell as behaviour changes will not be fully taking effect yet.

    I know there will many like me for whom swapping out BA is almost impossible and we have two choices, to stick with BA and accept the situation or move to another scheme. Although i calculated I’d have retained gold I decided to move because it’s a point of principle. I know a few thousand of us doing this will have no impact on BA but I still suspect they will see some changes come through over the next 12-18 months .

  • G says:

    Shame they decided to go after BA Holiday makers when their holiday site is one of the most clunky and outdated portions of it.

    Nothing beats a Jet2 holiday! (In terms of ease of booking, visibility etc).i would never use BAH for anything more than a European city break.

    • CJD says:

      I had a look at the BA Holiday site recently to price up a possible flight and car hire from Edinburgh to Palma, and thought I’d stumbled on an archived web page from about 2007.

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