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Accor may put 16 upscale brands up for IPO – is the loyalty scheme to blame?

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According to press reports, Accor is considering an IPO (stock market listing) of its lifestyle hotels joint venture, Ennismore.

In a separate transaction, LVMH is reported to have secured an option to take control of Accor’s fledgling Orient Express hotel brand in 2027.

With the Ennismore brands potentially leaving Accor as part of an IPO, and Orient Express likely to go to LVMH, it raises an interesting question – is Accor Live Limitless the reason why Accor isn’t committed to the upper end of the hotel market?

Accor to IPO Ennismore

Let’s be clear that there is a lot of ‘if’ here. Ennismore may or may not IPO, and there is no certainty that the brands will leave Accor Live Limitless if they do. Many of the 16 brands in Ennismore, which includes The Hoxton, Mondrian, 25hours, Gleneagles and Morgans, are not bookable via Accor now, either fully or in part.

However, let’s assume the brands go. Ennismore has its own loyalty scheme, Dis-loyalty, so it isn’t dependent on Accor Live Limitless.

It’s also virtually certain that LVMH exercises its option to take full control of Orient Express hotels to add to its existing Belmond and Cheval Blanc brands.

The big hotels groups have been piling into luxury

The last decade has seen the major hotel groups do whatever was necessary to add ‘luxury and lifestyle’ hotels to their portfolios.

Accor bought Raffles, Fairmont and Swissotel as well as half of Ennismore. Hilton launched LXR, bought NoMad and did a major Small Luxury Hotels partnership. Hyatt bought The Standard, Alila etc and the Mr & Mrs Smith marketing group. IHG bought Regent and Six Senses.

Why? Well, it’s not because they move the needle on profitability.

Hilton has over 8,000 hotels, of which a grand total of 36 are Waldorf Astoria branded. Even if you throw in 50 Conrad hotels, a couple of NoMad’s and the LXR ‘soft brand’, you are looking at well under 2% of the portfolio. It’s a rounding error. Yes, these hotels have higher daily rates than the other 98% but they are often smaller in terms of room count.

However, these hotels have a disproportionate impact due to Hilton Honors. Hilton is convinced that the prospect of a luxury hotel redemption is what drives everyday stays at their cheaper brands.

Why did Hilton do its deal with Small Luxury Hotels in 2024? A senior SLH director told me earlier this year that he couldn’t believe that Hilton was letting members book their hotels for points, given what Hilton was paying SLH in return.

A senior Hilton manager answered the question for me very recently – it needed to bulk-up in luxury to keep selling a dream to the buyers of those midscale and economy rooms.

IHG and Marriott believe the same thing, although IHG is moving closer to fully revenue based redemption pricing. IHG’s attempt to use Six Senses to drive the loyalty programme has been messed up by the refusal of most hotel owners to join IHG One Rewards.

Accor to undertake IPO of stake in Ennismore

What has this got to do with Accor?

It is generally agreed that the best ‘pence per point’ hotel redemptions are at luxury properties. This is deliberate, to encourage customers to do the large number of stays required to get the necessary points.

Accor Live Limitless is a pure revenue based programme. 1 point is worth 2 Eurocents.

There is no carrot, at all, for spending your points at a high end Accor hotel. You get the same 2 Eurocents of value at an ibis or a Raffles.

More importantly, the spend needed to get the points for a high end hotel is crazy. A £1,000 stay at Raffles requires 58,000 Accor Live Limitless points. Given that you earn 2.5 points per €1 spent – elite members get more, admittedly – it’s not a realistic target, requiring £23,200 of spend.

A £1,000 room at a Park Hyatt, on the other hand, would cost no more than 45,000 World of Hyatt points. You earn at 5 points per $1 spent, plus elite bonuses. You only need to spend $9,000 (£6,600).

Marriott pricing is semi-dynamic, but you’d expect to pay around 120,000 points for a £1,000 room at The St Regis New York. You earn these at 10 points per $1 spent, plus elite bonuses. You only need to spend $12,000 (£8,800).

Accor also runs fewer bonus point promotions than the other big brands. In reality, you would get away with spending a lot less at Hyatt or Marriott than the numbers above.

The bottom line, as I see it, is that Accor Live Limitless is unlikely to drive redemptions at Accor’s most expensive luxury and lifestyle hotels. Why hoard points when a luxury redemption isn’t proportionately better value?

If your upmarket hotels are not encouraging guests to earn points at day-to-day mid-market hotels, you don’t have a strategic need to keep them.

This is potentially why Accor is willing to lose Orient Express and potentially the Ennismore brands – because it won’t change the behaviour of the person staying at a Novotel once a week.

It will also explain why the hotel groups which DO use luxury and loyalty to drive business to their cheaper brands will think about acquiring Ennismore, bypassing the mooted IPO. Heaven help us if IHG, Marriott, Hilton or Hyatt gain another 16 brands in one go though ….

I also suspect the other big chains will also be sounding out Accor about any interest in selling their bigger leisure driven luxury brands, Fairmont and Raffles.

Comments (51)

  • John says:

    Earn and burn is the way with Accor anyway.

  • Dubious says:

    I don’t find myself using points at luxury properties, because as you point out, there is no outsized value.

    However, it is the status benefits at those properties that are(were) attractive.

    Why stay at a luxury property as a Classic Member at the start of the year, if you’ll have Gold by the end of the year. The reality though is that Accor downgraded the benefits of the Gold Tier a couple of years ago once they introduced the level above Platinum. Perhaps it wasn’t intentional at the Group level, but that’s what a lot of the hotels have implemented.

    It’s the small things like the fall in quality of welcome drinks.

  • David Cohen says:

    My question is why won’t Accor change their loyalty programme model? What’s keeping them in their current model as the only group to adopt a pure revenue based system?

    • Dubious says:

      Maybe it works for them?

    • AJA says:

      Restating the question may help: does Accor’s loyalty scheme make you choose their hotels or do you choose the best hotel based on location, price and facilities and just see the rewards scheme as a bonus? If it’s the former then it suggests scheme offers enough to incentivise you already so why improve it. If it’s the latter then it doesn’t matter how they reward you as you’re not necessarily that loyal anyway.

    • Inman says:

      Radisson operates on a revenue based system, not just Accor.

      • Rob says:

        And it went so badly they are now forced to give out VIP status via random channels to get people back in ….

  • Rob says:

    Accor has always planned to exit (or partially exit) from Ennismore. Senior Ennismore managment have massive stock options tied to an IPO. The more fundamental issue with Accor is that they havent been successful in Luxury — ibis is their DNA and they cant change it. The Fairmont brand is losing hotels. Raffles has taken on some crap properties to try to build momentum. Ultraluxury is so competitive now and Accor havent a clue, so OE goes out the door.

    • JDB says:

      “Ultraluxury is so competitive now and Accor havent a clue…” do any of the big chains have a clue about luxury? Or is it just dumbed down luxury at luxury prices?

      • Kowalski says:

        In my experience, generally speaking, no. None of the big brands have a clue about luxury. There are of course exceptions, but not many.

  • NigelthePensioner says:

    ALL is a bit of a bonkers programme imho. The free drinks are atrocious quality and breakfast is only included at weekends! Lounge access is good though. We pay for their hotels and then use the points for one night airport Novotel stays when needed before early flights. Im happy enough to get a night for free on this basis when doing an ex DUB longhaul to avoid UK APD.

  • Stuart says:

    As commented in yesterday’s Accor article. The best way to spend ALL Reward Points is reduce the cost at the economy brands as soon as possible, as these brands earn at lower RP redemption rates on the cash portion (eg 1.25RP/€1 @ ibis, ibis Styles). ALL is an earn and burn program.

    • Rob says:

      But this assumes you want to stay in one!

      • Throwawayname says:

        It really isn’t just grim hotels in Rotherham and Dortmund- some Ibis Styles even come with suites.

      • Stuart says:

        Often times it’s a good option. Also, not everyone can/wants to spend lots on stays that are perfectly acceptable in the economy brands. Realise these situations never occur to you affluent ex-finance West Londoners, but as surprising at is might be not everyone is in the group.

    • Dubious says:

      Until recently you could double dip with cashback too. That door seems to have finally closed so even more reason to use points. The trouble I always face is being unsure whether the tax authorities in my jurisdiction (not HMRC) will accept me reimbursing myself for the points used during business trips. It is not a scheme that lets you ‘buy’ points so it’s a bit trickier to argue.

      • Man of Kent says:

        You can get up to 8 Avios pre £ booking through eStore and in my experience is one of the few hotel groups you don’t need to fight for to get the Avios.

  • letBAgonesbe says:

    Are there any other hotel groups that offer huge savings when their hotel opens, the same way as Ennismore does via Disloyalty or Designhotels.

    • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

      Lots of them.

      Three IHG examples

      First time I stayed at the Kimpton de Witt in Amsterdam in 2016 I thought it was an error rate but it was a soft launch rate.

      Ditto when thenBrooklyn rebranded as a Voco on Manchester.

      Regular emails offering reduced points for new and refurbished properties.

      • David says:

        Buy that is an individual hotel choice, not an IHG standard.
        I’m also pretty sure the reduced points offer is just 15% off (from what I can recall seeing), so hardly equivalent to the 50% off cash rates in all new hotels in Disloyalty.

  • John says:

    Generally, a sound story you spin.

    However, luxury hotels have recently increased margins while economy and midscale brands have seen falling margins, especially in North America.

    There is a strategic imperative to keep your upper upscale and luxury brands. So I think there is possibly more going on.

    • Throwawayname says:

      It’s worth noting that the only N. American country where Accor have a serious presence is Mexico.

    • Rob says:

      Swings and roundabouts. Why was Starwood forced to put itself up for sale 10 years ago? Because it was primarily luxury hotels and they were out of fashion with midscale Hampton’s being seen as the future. Luxury hotels were a dead end, Starwood was seen as a dead company (because it had more luxury hotels than any other multi brand group) and so investors forced it to sell itself.

      Remember that Accor doesn’t have any hotels in North America, apart from a few Fairmonts and 1 (?) Raffles plus the reflagged Radisson casino. Literally not a single Ibis anywhere in the US or Canada.

      • Throwawayname says:

        It’s got lots in Mexico.

      • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

        There is a Sofitel in Chicago.

        Stayed where once after the pandemic on an Emyr rate.

      • Peeps says:

        And a Sofitel New York.

      • BlairWaldorfSalad says:

        Swissotel Chicago

      • John says:

        Accor has over two dozen Fairmonts in NA, plus a couple of SLS, Sofitel, and a Raffles underrepresented there? Yeah, but the trend towards luxury is not limited to NA.

        Just swings and roundabouts? I gotta disagree. It looks like the post C19 travel patterns (less business travel, more premium leisure travel) is more than a fad.

        Besides, it is not that Accor can take a ultra-long run perspective in today’s capital markets. Really, all big players are responding to trends such as (i) increased luxury/premium leisure travel, (ii) increased AI demand (especially in the premium/luxury segments), (iii) boutique/Instragram-able properties and (catering to the other side of the market) (iv) conversion friendliness as well as (v) smaller rooms, larger public areas in the mid-market segment (for overall space savings for owners).

        You may very well speculate the industry will care about different things in 10 years. This does not imply, though, that the big chains can afford to ignore the trends I mentioned today.

        • Throwawayname says:

          Accor is listed in Paris, it may not be immune to global market trends but the pressure isn’t quite on the level with which American companies have to contend.

          As an example from another sector, I’ve been watching TotalEnergies for years, they were slowish in pivoting towards renewables, carefully adjusting their strategy with every passing year and without neglecting their fossil fuels business. They have managed to build resilience and get their fingers in multiple pies, allowing them to cope with changing political winds etc. At the same time, BP had been rushing to move away from hydrocarbons, at one point reputedly sacking whole teams of geologists etc…and they’re now reversing course, desperately trying to rebuild their fossil fuel exploration and production capacity.

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