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Singapore Airlines to devalue (a little), but adds Scoot flight redemptions

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Singapore Airlines has announced a modest devaluation of its KrisFlyer programme for bookings made from 1st November. 

The full announcement is on the website here.

The good news is that it isn’t terrible, and there is some upside regarding redemptions on low cost sibling Scoot.

Singapore Airlines to devalue

To quote:

Members will benefit from a reduction of 5% in Economy Saver award redemption rates for flights within Asia and South West Pacific (Zones 1 to 9).  

Business and Suites/First Saver award redemption rates for Zones 1 to 9 will increase by 5%. 

Saver award rates will increase by 5% across all cabin classes for flights to and from Europe and the United States of America (Zones 11 to 13). For flights to and from Africa, the Middle East, and Turkey (Zone 10), rates will rise by 10 to 20%. 

Advantage award rates across all zones and cabin classes, except for Zone 10, will increase by 10 to 15%. For Zone 10, the Economy Advantage rates will increase by 5%, the Business Advantage rates by 18%, and Suites/First Advantage rates by 15%. 

KrisFlyer is a rarity amongst frequent flyer schemes in that it tends to change its pricing every 2-3 years (more often than most) but only in small increments (smaller than most). It is almost as if it is making inflation-linked adjustments.

Here are the links you need to the award charts (PDF):

There are also 5% to 10% increases in upgrade pricing.

The airline has also announced, without giving details, that it will be giving members the ability to redeem points for ANY Singapore Airlines flight. This will be on a revenue based basis, presumably similar to how Etihad Guest operates – ie if no reward seats are left, you will be shown a mileage cost equivalent to (at a guess) 1 US cent per mile based on the cheapest cash ticket.

Singapore Airlines Krisflyer redemptions on Scoot

If we look at the ‘sweet spots’ I highlighted in this HfP article:

  • ‘Europe to the Middle East’ (eg flying Lufthansa or Turkish to Dubai via Frankfurt or Istanbul) goes from 67,000 miles return in business class to 74,000 miles return
  • ‘Europe to South Africa’ (eg flying Lufthansa, Ethiopian, SWISS, Turkish to Johannesburg) goes from 120,000 miles return in business class to 132,000 miles return
  • ‘Europe to the Maldives’ (Turkish Airlines is the most common carrier) goes from 120,000 miles return in business class to 136,000 miles return
  • ‘Istanbul to Singapore’ on Singapore Airlines jumps from 113,000 miles return in business class to 136,000 miles, assuming you can find a day with ‘Saver’ availability. Taxes are also exceptionally low – just US$27 from Istanbul to Singapore and S$65 in the other direction.

Scoot now has its own reward chart

Singapore Airlines has quietly rolled out a reward chart for its discount carrier Scoot. Scoot flights were previously only available on a revenue based basis, ie you got a fixed value per mile used.

You can find it here (PDF).

Prices are exceptionally low – flights start at 1,500 miles one-way – although this is still not necessarily a bargain once taxes and charges are added, so do the maths. Scoot redemptions are non-refundable.

Find out more

The official announcement of the changes is here.

If you want to find out more, I recommend you read this article on the Singapore-based HfP-style site Mainly Miles.

In terms of earning miles if you are UK based, we wrote a full article on how to earn Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer miles from UK credit cards which you can find here.

The obvious route is transferring American Express Membership Rewards points.  As you can see here, it is a 3:2 airline partner from the UK scheme. Singapore Airlines is one of two UK Amex airline partners where the transfer rate is not 1:1. The other outlier is Emirates which is 4:3.

Comments (13)

  • e14 says:

    Any notable Kris Flyer sign up bonuses out there ?

  • Dave Hughes says:

    One to note on the ‘sweet spot Istanbul-Singapore’ redemption. You can actually tag a intra-Asia flight on within around 3 hours from Singapore for the same saver redemption cost!

    I managed Manilla-Singapore-Istanbul for 56,500 miles plus £18!!

    Seemed to work from Vietnam , Cambodia, Philippines , Bali , Thailand , Malaysia etc , tried Hong Kong and miles went up!

  • David S says:

    I got a way better cash fare from PEN to SIN booking direct versus the fares quoted by Google Flights. Only the latter assumed that I was in the U.K. Are fares universal or are there other sweet spots for pricing at more affordable local rates ?

    • JDB says:

      No, where and how you buy your ticket and if with connecting flights the very specific route can all have very material impact on pricing.

      BA recently rejigged its systems to remove point of sale differences but a fare ex-EU via London will still often be cheaper than buying the same flight starting in London even excluding the tax difference. A fare from say Brussels to Asia will be about the same price as from London in NUCs but sold at very different cash prices. Lots of opportunities!

    • SamG says:

      quite normal from my experience – they seem to limit cheaper fare buckets in UK “point of sale” for intra Asia markets. I often pay a lot more for flights via my corp agent than I would pay booking direct due to this

      Expedia have a .sg site and other local sites in the region, Traveloka is another big one and trip.com . Can play around but of course if anything goes wrong these sites can be a pain to deal with, booking direct always best if possible

  • Wally1976 says:

    We flew a scoot HKT-SIN a couple of weeks back and thought they were excellent for a budget airline (albeit part of Singapore Airlines).

  • CJD says:

    The dynamic pricing aspect is interesting as this is where I think BA should be going with Avios.

    An award chart for your Reward inventory, with simplified pricing, with every other seat also being available for Avios redemption would be ideal. Will be interesting to see how Singapore’s scheme works.

    • Rob says:

      I’ve always said that this wouldn’t offend anyone and would please some, and anything that makes other people burn Avios at a bad rate is fine dyfor the rest of us.

      A lot of it is down to how you show it in the app so people are clear that better deals can be found, or it simply makes the scheme look bad to newbies.

      If Virgin had kept the guaranteed seats and added dynamic on top it would have been much better, and the actual cost would have been very modest (and probably a net gain when they offset the people they lost due to the changes).

  • Jonathan says:

    I personally don’t feel that it’s worth bothering with Scoot.

    I read somewhere once that Singaporeans in general aren’t too keen on them, as one can tell by their pricing structure BOB that their flights are literally for people who’re simply looking at travelling from point A to B in the cheapest way possible

    • Dubious says:

      Compared to the other LCCs in the region, Scoot are one of the better ones. A bit more laid back and still get a proper boarding pass at some (but not all) airports. Technically you agree not to consume your own food onboard which I think is extremely tight, but crew aren’t too fussy about this if you don’t take the piss.

      Their buy-in-advance/buy-on-board hot meals are revolting though.

      They come in for stick locally because the SIA Group has been switching a lot of mainline routes over to Scoot over the years. A load of the routes were moved when SilkAir was amalgamated, then the rest gradually. People also get annoyed because they sometimes codeshare with SQ – so expectations are not met.

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