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Why any sane non-Han Chinese person would want to enter that country in the current climate boggles the mind.
Why any sane LGBT person would want to enter Malaysia in the current climate boggles the mind.
See works in other countries too. The same language can be applied to some speech in the UK.
Spot on! People are so selective about this. Whenever certain ME countries are mentioned, there are posters who say they could never go there because of their high principles but those same people trot off to Vietnam, a horribly oppressive one party communist regime where dissent is not tolerated and met with a large number of executions. Principles fly out of the window, to be replaced by hypocrisy because Vietnam is cheap and cheerful I guess.
How many other countries have national security laws with vague language with vague laws such as causing trouble and picking quarrels and even vaguer definitions of state secrets, that basically enable arbitrary detention of anybody at any time?
China is no worse than other countries because of lgbt laws etc is just a poor straw man argument.
If you think Chinese people don’t think every non-Han Chinese isn’t a sworn enemy I have a bridge to sell you. Sixty years of social conditioning with the CCP using a revolving door of external scapegoats, combined with drilling into generations of Chinese every slight and injury the country has suffered at the hands of foreigners over the last 150 years, means the vast majority of mainland Chinese are ultranationalist.
I know. I lived there for 12 years. Been to every province. Speak fluent mandarin, and have many Chinese friends. Get to know some Chinese people and gain their trust. Ask them their true feelings about Japan, the South China Sea, what they think ‘greater China’ is, America, Europe, India. And that’s not even going close to the obvious Taiwan.
Culturally Chinese play the long game. They are not our friends. They will smile and take you for dinner, compliment you and build the relationship. But don’t mistake any of that for caring. Deep down they resent you for what you represent.
So sure, try and equate some random other countries with China. Anybody who truly understands China knows it ain’t even close.
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