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  • LemonBars 16 posts

    Hi All

    Been a while since I used a 241 and it was only two of us at the time. We are now a family of 4, and we have two vouchers (on two separate cards, one in each of our names). I understand that means we will need to make two separate bookings – I am hoping we could still do this via one agent on the phone to simplify things.

    What I am finding more complicated is we want to use the vouchers to book a trip to the US for Christmas, but BA does not fly to our final destination. Various other codeshare airlines do (Alaska etc) and therefore if booking cash we could do this all the way through on BA.com. Does anyone know if it’s possible to call, book flights with the 241 to a hub, and then onwards travel as a cash flight via a codeshare, all on the same itinerary? Or will we have to book the 241 avios flights and then book the onwards transfers separately? In the past we’ve always booked cash, and being on a single itinerary was very helpful because in the winter there is fairly frequent disruption – delays or cancellation. Thanks in advance for your help! This may also influence whether we liquidate a bunch of Avios for Nectar points before the devaluation. As it we can’t use them for this then we either won’t use the 241 for another year, or it will end up being for shorter flights and therefore we won’t need as many.

    BA Flyer IHG Stayer 2,996 posts

    Not possible to mix avios and cash tickets in the same booking.

    LemonBars 16 posts

    Thanks, that answers it clearly!

    NorthernLass 10,186 posts

    This doesn’t need to be a problem. I have done numerous trips using a 241 to get to the US, then connected to another destination on a separate booking. It works best if you build in 2/3 days at the first stop, in case of disruption. We spent Xmas and New Year 2022 in the US, starting in Washington DC (in F with the 241) for 3 days then flying to Key West on American Eagle (also using avios) to begin the rest of the trip. We had an amazing time and no travel hitches.

    Alex G 574 posts

    Stopping off for two or three days in a place you don’t actually want to go to just in order to make a connection would be a problem for many people.

    And your baggage probably wouldn’t be checked through on the return trip.

    I would be inclined to fly as close as possible to my intended destination and drive the rest of the way.

    Alternatively, don’t use the voucher and book an itinerary using two OW airlines, priced off the multi carrier chart.

    https://www.britishairways.com/travel/multi-carrier-avios-costs-zone/public/en_gb

    1958 104 posts

    Check the terms of your travel insurance before booking (in case of a missed connecting flight on separate tickets). I allowed 4 hours in Singapore once. Inbound flight was delayed for 90 minutes, but I was relaxed as “I had insurance”. Turns out my insurance insisted on a 24 hour connection time,
    Pleased to say that we made our connection (courtesy of Changi’s superb efficiency).

    NorthernLass 10,186 posts

    Why would it have to be a place that OP doesn’t want to go? You are absolutely spoilt for choice in the US. OP may well need to use the 241 to be able to book enough award seats for their family so some level of flexibility is probably going to be necessary.

    We had a fantastic time in DC – I had originally hoped to start in Miami but was too slow to bag the seats at T-355. However, F to IAD appeared at the time I was trying to book so I decided to grab those instead. We had 3 nights at The Willard which was fabulous and thoroughly enjoyed spending more time in the city (we had previously visited for one day some years ago).

    We’ve done similar itineraries involving NYC and BOS and also had a great time.

    Driving is a good suggestion though – if we knew OP’s intended destination it would be possible to offer more specific suggestions!

    Alex G 574 posts

    Check the terms of your travel insurance before booking (in case of a missed connecting flight on separate tickets).

    Absolutely. I’m slightly uncomfortable as I have a 3 hour connection at Haneda in May between two separately ticketed flights. My travel insurance will cover us for £1k each if we miss the flight, so we should get home, although it would probably be in economy which would be grim for 15 hours. If any further reward availability opens up in Business then I will book a spare redemption flight for a couple of days after our planned flight.

    Only slightly worried as our JAL domestic flight has an excellent record for punctuality, but things can go wrong.

    I once took a domestic flight from Orlando to La Guardia that took 8 hours with a refuelling stop in Richmond VA due to bad weather. Was very glad that I was in (Domestic) First. (And that was in September. All NY area airports closed due to a storm soon after we took off. Most of the trip was spent flying around in circles.)

    jj 689 posts

    It’s often not realistic or desirable to have an extended stopover near a suitable hub airport.

    Last time I was faced with this situation, I kept the 241 for another day, booked Premium Economy with cash and upgraded the leg I cared about (overnight coming home) to Club using Avios. The way the pricing worked in my case, I actually got higher value per Avios than if I’d used a 241 in any case.

    NorthernLass 10,186 posts

    OP is specifically asking about using 241s and avios at a peak travel period!

    FatherOfFour 347 posts

    Because of our family size, we have to be realistic and flexible with options. So as long as we find our kids take well to long-haul travel next month, we are planning to do exactly as NorthernLass suggests. I think we can get 6 Club seats in/out of Washington/Miami, using 3 x 2-4-1s across 2 accounts.
    Still good value, even pitted against a direct Y point to point cash booking, plus a bit of culture (DC) to accompany mouseland!

    jj 689 posts

    OP is specifically asking about using 241s and avios at a peak travel period!

    I’m simply being honest about an important limitation of reward fights. USA connections are rarely a good use of Avios or 241s.

    I used my Upgrade Using Avios (UUA) approach in February half term, which is at peak time. If you book well in advance, cash prices on peak dates are often no higher than on other dates. Using cash, BA often charges no more for a connecting flight to the US than for a direct flight to the gateway hub. Beside the risk of missed connections, booking separate flights will always be more expensive than a single booking. As a result, UUA on one or two carefully targeted legs can be a very cost-effective alternative that’s easy to overlook.

    LemonBars 16 posts

    Thank you very much everyone for the various inputs and discussion. All very helpful!

    I don’t think there is a practically drivable airport nearby that BA flies to. We’ve had enough experience with disruption in the winter (final destination would be BZN in Montana… so if flights are disrupted roads often are too) that I’m wary of booking two separate itineraries. A stopover would be fun on the way over – and we could build that it – but the way back I don’t think we would really want to do. Great advice to check the travel insurance terms re: connections.

    I think we will probably look at using the vouchers at a different time of year and alternative destination.

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