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  • rooey 12 posts

    Hi folks,

    First time posting here. Hopefully someone can help with my queries since I don’t have all that much experience with the 241. I have a 241 that is due to expire in June next year (issued in 2022).

    I understand with my Amex 241 I can now fly on IB or EI metal other than BA. If I start the trip from DUB or MAD, do I have to factor in the Avios via London if there is no direct flight from say, MAD to SCL?

    Also, if there is a First seat going out but only Business coming back, how would that impact the Avios and the taxes?

    (I did a trial NYC redemption and saw that the Avios in Business class cost more than a First class redemption, but the taxes were double for First class).

    Any pointers gratefully received. 🙂

    NorthernLass 8,220 posts

    You’re asking for quite a lot of information – the best thing you can do is read the excellent series of articles on HFP, such as https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/01/16/how-do-british-airways-american-express-2-4-1-vouchers-work/

    then follow up with the relevant threads, if you have time.

    JDB 4,630 posts

    @rooey – welcome to HfP! While it’s easy to send you off to other stories or threads, these don’t necessarily address your direct questions so not that useful.

    Yes, you can use the new voucher (BAPP ones issued since Sep 2021) starting outside the UK and on IB/EI as well as BA and you will pay for the relevant sectors except UK domestic (and Jersey) which are included for long haul routes.

    You can mix First and Club but it creates significantly higher taxes/fees/charges (“TFCs”). For about a year BA has offered RFS (Reward Flight Saver) for all classes except First. This means that the old TFCs are now partly rolled into the Avios component such that the cash part is lower. If you try to mix First and Club on the same booking there is a clash, so you pay much more than the two flights as one ways.

    It’s not easy to get to grips with all these things, so if you have further questions, feel free to ask.

    rooey 12 posts

    Wow. Thanks @JDB. That’s really helpful. Of course I had read as much as I could before posting. It just helps to have a bit more clarity from experienced fliers before I commit to a booking. It is clear to me now that I should stick to only one class to save on taxes. Any suggestions on the best use of 200K Avios? 🙂

    NorthernLass 8,220 posts

    You can get round the problems caused by mixing classes by booking each leg separately. For example I recently booked DUB-LHR-MEX in F for 94k avios plus £483 with the 241 and will book the return from a different airport in CW or PE and request half the avios back. Again there’s a plethora of detail about this process in the articles and threads.

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